LOL....the replies are pourin in now. You can visit the SOC website at: http://www.qsl.net/soc/cert.htm#top and follow the directions to get your copy. Please hurry, because I am passing the reigns on January 1st. EH? Erv W8ERV J. Ervin Bates Central Michigan Amateur Radio Club 517-908-6739 http://www.centralmiarc.com