[SOC] G5RV

Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:17:19 -0400

Oh now, c'mon... it's not such a bad habit.  After all, you can drink a lot
MORE if it's cold!

You can solve the corkscrew dilemma by getting the stuff with a screw cap
(or in a bag)!

<Snicker>

Mike
KG8L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Bob Nielsen
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SOC] G5RV

Beer in the fridge?  When did you adopt that yankee bad habit?

On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 03:54:58PM +0100, Paul Bartlett wrote:
> Well we're enjoying just about the best weather you can hope for in the
UK.
> The sky is clear; it's warm and sunny but not too hot; the barbeque is
> heating; beer and wine in the fridge.
>
> Trouble is that I've lost the sodding corkscrew!
>
> P#529;-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Besemer" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [SOC] G5RV
>
>
> > Gee, John... we were almost neighbors (at least my Mojave desert
> > standards!).  I was at Edwards from 94 - 98.  The weather was great, but
> we
> > got tired of the long drive everywhere.
> >
> > Maybe if you write to Gov. Davis, you can get some sort of research
grant.
> > I'll be glad to help carry your luggage!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mike
> > KG8L
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > Behalf Of JMcAulay
> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:56 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [SOC] G5RV
> >
> >
> > At 09:04 PM 06/14/2003 -0400, Mike wrote:
> > >Paul,
> > >
> > >DON'T DO IT!  From what I remember from my time in both CA and the UK,
> the
> > >taxes in SoCal are even worse than the UK and the gov't services aren't
> > near
> > >as good in SoCal as they are in the UK.  (Except for, perhaps, the BBC!
> > >British TV nearly drove me crazy... thank goodness for the pubs!)
> > >
> > >Sorry guys... I couldn't resist!
> > >
> > ><Shields UP!>
> >
> >
> > Well, Mike, neither can I.
> >
> > The real tale-teller of who likes to live where in the US is the
business
> > of renting vans and trailers for moving household goods.  Thirty years
> ago,
> > when you rented a van to move out of California, the rental company
would
> > almost kiss you.  A friend who moved to Los Angeles from Boston paid
three
> > times as much rental for a small trailer than would have been required
for
> > a move in the opposite direction.  It was difficult for the companies to
> > keep enough vehicles in other states for everyone who wanted to move to
> > California.  I knew one young man who was given the use of a van to move
> to
> > Virginia; he only had to pay for fuel.
> >
> > During the last several years, the situation has reversed.  More people
> are
> > now trying to get out of here than to get in.  In Oregon, just north of
> > California, intriguing bumper stickers are seen:  "Welcome to Oregon;
now
> > go home," and "Don't Californicate Oregon."  A few years ago, I sold my
> > vacation Condo in Brian Head, Utah, and was able to hire an enclosed
> > trailer to bring the furniture and other stuff back to California for an
> > extremely low fee.  Someone said recently about the comparison of living
> > conditions in various countries, "If you want to know what life is
really
> > like in a country, find out how many people are trying to get in and how
> > many are trying to get out."  Well, that goes for areas within a
country,
> > too.
> >
> > I like it here in Los Angeles county (although I'm just a few miles from
> > its northern border) at 1234 M elevation on the north slope of the San
> > Gabriel mountains.  When the Rose Parade is televised on New Year's Day
> (or
> > 2 January in some places) and you see those mountain peaks in the
> > background, I'm just on the other side of them, 50 kM north of Pasadena.
> > I've lived several places in and around Los Angeles in the last 30 years
> or
> > so, and this is my favorite of all.  To me, it even beats some years ago
> > when I could stroll from my home to a beautiful, sandy Pacific Ocean
beach
> > in two minutes.  I guess I'm just a Desert Rat at heart, here on the
edge
> > of the Mojave.  And by the way, right now, petrol sells locally for
about
> > �0.27 per litre.  Not bad, eh?  And plenty of people around here are
still
> > complaining because it's so high.   heheheheh
> >
> > Taxes in California are pretty heavy, and now the Governor tells us we
are
> > 38 Billion Dollars in the hole.  This is about $1,150 for every human
> being
> > (or close) who resides in the state (not just citizens).  Of course, no
> one
> > has yet figured out how we will overcome the situation.  Here's one
reason
> > the Governor is not so well-appreciated:  last October, two weeks before
> he
> > was re-elected, he told us the deficit was *three* Billion.  My, my....
> > Many businesses have left the state over the last several years, and
many
> > continue to do so because of the state government's perceived unfriendly
> > attitude toward business operations.  Simply put, other states have
> offered
> > extremely appealing tax and other concessions for companies to move into
> > their jurisdictions. California hasn't done anything like that in the
> past,
> > but it simply may have to happen for the state to remain competitive.
> Many
> > businesses stay because of the good base of available workers, the great
> > climate, and a lot of executives as well as lower-level workers really
> love
> > it here.  California, it has been said, would have the seventh-largest
> > economy on Earth if it were an independent nation.  That may sound
great,
> > but surely the existing situation cannot go on forever.
> >
> > For those times when this area sort of overwhelms my wife and me, we
have
> a
> > very small place about three hours' drive to the north of here.  We try
to
> > get there frequently for weekends and holidays.  It's located in a
county
> > with a population of only 12,000, and the fishing there is wonderful.
The
> > valley floor is about 10 kM across, at about 1,200 M elevation.  There
are
> > mountains 3,000 M high to the east, 4,000 M to the west.  The valley
floor
> > is only a few miles across.  It's just plain strikingly beautiful.  Our
> > ability to spend time there conveniently is another advantage to
> California
> > living that is hardly encountered in many other places.
> >
> > There are plenty of Brits who live in Southern California.  Plenty of
> > Canadians, too.  In fact, more Canadians live in Los Angeles than in any
> > other city except Toronto.  But they are almost all here for the same
> > reason:  on their trees, they prefer citrus fruits rather than icicles.
> > Where I live, no oranges are grown, although the peaches are
outstanding.
> > Here, we enjoy snow in winter.  My home is less than half an hour from
> > Mountain High Ski Resort.  But in summer, it's quite warm, reaching 45�C
> on
> > some days.  Fortunately, the relative humidity is down in single digits
> > much of that time.
> >
> > Anyway, whether the overall cost of living to the same standards would
be
> > lower in Southern California or Britain, I just don't know.  If I could
> get
> > some sort of Grant for extensive research, traveling throughout Britain
> > (maybe even Ulster, too), remaining in certain locations for months at a
> > time, I would be pleased to prepare a comprehensive report which could
be
> > made available in no more than three years.  I will not hold my breath
> > while waiting for offers.
> >
> > 73
> > John WA6QPL  SOC 263
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Bob Nielsen, N7XY                          [email protected]
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