Bonsoir Ian, << Nice to have a Dad who's also a retired plumber. >> Always nice to have a Dad, period. Whatever "retired from" he can be. << Didn't think it was news worthy. >> Oh well, you know I am a very ordinary person ... << Taking "the bourbon in the coke bottles" trick don't work >> Would like to try OJ in (empty and _well-washed_) bourbon bottles, to see how it works ... 72! Claude