[SOC] "alternate" browsers, e-mail, etc....

[Bob Nielsen]

It's been a looong time since I have run DOS, but I recall that vidram,
which comes with Quarterdeck's QEMM would allow you to get 704K to 736k
or so of conventional memory and uses video memory (it requires you to
use a non-graphics mode, so probably won't work with arachne).  This
can also be done with EMM386.EXE.

There actually is an application written for ham packet radio which
won't do browsing (it can be a web server however), but will handle
tcp/ip for email, etc.  It works quite well for Internet use as well
and will talk to ethernet cards or dial up a modem on a com port.  It
is called NOS and was written by Phil Karn, KA9Q and subsequently
expanded by many others as either JNOS or TNOS.

The latest incarnation of JNOS can be found at
<ftp://pc.louisiana.edu/pub/ham/jnos111f>.    There are some
precompiled versions there, but it is really intended to be customized
and compiled with BC 3.1 for DOS or gcc for Linux.  


Bob, N7XY

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 07:39:33AM -0600, Dan W. Dooley wrote:
> Rob, it sounds like you don't have enough conventional memory.
> 
> "WHAT, YOU SAY!!!!  I'VE GOT 32 MEGS!!! (or whatever you have)  How could I
> be out of memory?"
> 
> DOS apps can only access the lower 640 KB of that memory, and if you have
> several DOS apps going at the same time, well, start with 640 and start
> subtracting.....
> 
> So what's taking your memory?  Lots of little things you wouldn't expect.
> Try this.  At the command prompt, type "MEM" <return>.  That will list the
> breakdown of memory usage.
> 
> This one I've got to do from memory <no pun here>, but I think it's "MEM
> MODE | MORE".  Try typing that one in.  Without the "" of course and case
> doesn't matter.  It should list memory usage by device.  It will tell you
> what's eating up low memory.  Loading devices high (into high memory) will
> help.  I won't try to get into all the nasty little details here.  For one
> thing, I've forgotten much of them and if you have or can get a book
> covering DOS, it should explain more.
> 
> 
> Dan W. Dooley  WB5TKA  Bedford, Texas
>     e-mail to: dandooley@pipeline.com
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> May Goddes love blest ye alle
> "Ancient Pistol, I do partly understand your meaning."
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Matherly" <kc0bom@arrl.net>
> To: <soc@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [SOC] "alternate" browsers, e-mail, etc....
> 
> 
> > Boy, how SOC of me :^)
> >
> > You're a computer geek, maybe you can help me figure this out... every
> time
> > I try to run Arachne, I get a memory error.  It says "ran out of
> > conventional (low) memory".  It then says something like "8670 bytes
> > missing" (number changes).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> 
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