[SOC] I NEED PLANE TICKETS TO GERMANY STAT!!!

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 06:45:58AM +0100, f5pbl wrote:
> Hello Paul,
> 
> Saturday, December 21, 2002, 8:46:13 PM, you wrote:
> 
> Paul> I lived for a year in Germany (75,76) and at that time the idea of buying
> Paul> beer in a TIN was completely foreign to them.
> 
> Oui, same here. And that worked not only for beer but also for wine,
> but on a smaller scale. I still remember while a kid (6-7 y. old) when
> on summer holidays at Grand-Parents' village, gg with Grand-Ma' to the
> "Wine seller" with empty bottles (75 cl, of course), entering a small
> shop (maybe 100 m2) with a raw of big barrels along each wall and some
> "recognizable" smell in the air.
> Hmm, who knows, maybe I then became an OJ addict ;o)
> 
> Beer bottles were 1 liter ones. The "exchange" was mostly
> available at local small shops (grocer).
> 
> Oh boys, that was "years" ago ... (25-30).
> 
> Now, tins and bricks are on us. Glass bottles are still available
> but the "consigne" (deposit) is not done the same way : empty bottles
> are brought back to collecting points (big green containers). When full,
> the containers are emptied in big trucks. The glass is then reused in
> factory to make new bottles.
> These containers are to collect not only empty bottles but everything
> made of glass.
> The money thus saved is offered to hospital structures (mainly to
> cancer researchers).
> 
> Same kind of "collecting points" are also available for
> papers/cardboard (empty milk bricks welcome !).
> 
> But Germans & Northerners are vy good (and much better) as for the "Green Punkt".
> 
> Paul> Times change.
> 
> O Tempores, O Mores.
> But at least tnx to new European regulations (yes, at least something
> good in it), we have now to make "rubbish sorting" at home. Each city
> _must_ now have a "sorting system" to collect garbages : paper, glass
> and then all other things. So we have separate bins.
> Oh yes, of course you can put everything in the "global bin", that's
> up to you. Question of sense of responsability.

It's pretty much the same here.  Our local rubbish-collection company
also has a site where you can bring cardboard, papers, glass, etc. and
dump in their containers for free (you can dump almost anything there,
but there is a healthy charge for non-recyclable materials). 

Many states have a mandatory deposit fee on bottles and places where
you can exchange them for a refund.  I suppose I could collect a
carload and drive to Oregon.

Apparently there is no place nearby where I can get rid of a couple of
old computer monitors I have, so I'm saving them until the county
decides what to do.

73,
Bob, N7XY