[SMCARA] Plan B

Tue Jun 23 18:02:12 EDT 2015

First, my apologies to David for not passing along his concerns.  I did go review the rules (for what it's worth) and found that the use of the bingo hall wouldn't make us ineligible as a class A station.   The requirement is that we setup in an area that isn't a permanent station location, or with permanent facilities for FD.  You can read the rules at www.arrl.org/field-day.  

Tom Shelton, ND3N
240-434-3811

If it ain't broke,  let's fix it until it is...

-------- Original message --------
From: Ken McNeely via SMCARA <smcara at mailman.qth.net> 
Date:06/23/2015  5:37 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Rene Ramirez <w3bnyren at gmail.com>, Christopher Olson <lilsmokeeater5 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "<SMCARA at mailman.qth.net>" <smcara at mailman.qth.net>, Richard B <nonelidd at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [SMCARA] Plan B 

All,
I have been asked by David Willenborg, N3UX, To forward his comment to this issue & I told him I would. I have already responded to him & invited him to join us for Field Day.
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Ken,

I agree with the statement at the end of each of Tom Shelton's emails, " If it ain't broke,  let's fix it until it is...".

Field Day has been held in the same location for over a decade, using a tent in all kinds of weather.  If a storm comes you power down and seek a safe location until the storm passes.  We have operated as 3A for many years and to run in that class (A) we could not use preexisting structures like buildings, or towers.  That rule may have changed, but then again it may not have.  The idea of the A class is to go out into the field and use emergency power only and set up your facilities to work from.  It would be unfair to compete in a class that we do not follow the rules, and spirit of the competition.  I called Tom Shelton, and left a message, and hoped that my two cents would be added to the debate but that did not happen.  Maybe you could do so.

If you need an elected official to show up please let me know.  I can find the time to stop in so you can get those points.

73,

David Willenborg N3UX "If you don't make changes, you will live your next five years the same as your last five have been" 

     On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:00 PM, Rene Ramirez <w3bnyren at gmail.com> wrote:

we kinda go thru this every year. X3

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Christopher Olson <lilsmokeeater5 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> How about we just use common sense and our own ears and eyes to keep an
> eye on the weather.
>
> Hmmmm .....
>
> KC3ERI
> Christopher M. Olson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Tom Shelton, ND3N <gl1800winger at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Geez,
> >
> > I'm sorry I brought it up.  But happy it inspired so thought and
> discussion.
> >
> > Bad weather happens and it's good to plan for it.  Many years ago when I
> lived in California, we had a major earthquake during field day.  We
> immediately ceased our field day efforts, along with most of the clubs in
> and around LA county, and shifted to emcomm, passing messages in and out.
>  One of our club members was a CHP officer who was called into work and was
> part of the team checking bridges for damage (and there were a few).  The
> CHP radios were busy with other higher priority traffic, so he would
> contact us as each bridge was inspected, and we fed the info on HF to the
> CHP HD in Sacramento.  It took a few hours for everything to settle down,
> then we got back to FD.  Fortunately,  it wasn't raining.
> >
> >
> > Tom Shelton, ND3N
> > 240-434-3811
> >
> > If it ain't broke,  let's fix it until it is...
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Rene Ramirez <w3bnyren at gmail.com>
> > Date:06/23/2015  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> > To: "robert.mcneely" <robert.mcneely16 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "<SMCARA at mailman.qth.net>" <smcara at mailman.qth.net>, Richard B <
> nonelidd at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SMCARA] Plan B
> >
> > I has an airhorn on my lawn tractor.  I'll bring it along Saturday.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:10 PM, robert.mcneely <
> robert.mcneely16 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Rene on this. We can have someone s I understand a horn and
> >> signal shutdown  and resume when safe to do so. Rather than trying to
> move
> >> everything inside.
> >>
> >> Also if we did set up inside with the food and testing etc. Wouldn't it
> be
> >> just a tad bit cramped in the bingo hall?
> >> KC3CCN
> >> Co- Field Day Coordinator
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: Rene Ramirez <w3bnyren at gmail.com>
> >> Date: 06/23/2015 11:48 AM (GMT-05:00)
> >> To: Richard B <nonelidd at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: "<SMCARA at mailman.qth.net>" <smcara at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [SMCARA] Plan B
> >>
> >> This has generally been the M.O of field day.  Someone sounds a horn or
> >> something signifying shutdown.  disconnect the antenna and cover the
> rigs
> >> in plastic/tarps until the storm blows over.
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Richard B <nonelidd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Personally,  I belive we should just accept that inclement weather is a
> >>> possibility. If it occurs, we shut down, drink coffee in the bingo hall
> >> and
> >>> discuss the P5 station that got away.
> >>> When the weather clears,  resume normal operations.
> >>> Attempting to move radios inside, reconnect antennas  (lighting rods)
> and
> >>> reconfigure power connections is an onerous task.
> >>> Just about the time we are up and running inside, it would be time to
> >>> perform a keystone cops shuffle to shift back.
> >>> That's my .02 cents worth.
> >>> --
> >>> 73 DE N1LID (Boz) Tuesday, 23 June 2015, 10:54AM -04:00 from Chris
> >> Ordiway
> >>> < kc3dig at gmail.com> :
> >>>
> >>>> I don't put much stock in weathermen any more, 4 days out is barely a
> >>>> guess in my book. Unless we're sure of t-storms I'd rather setup
> >>>> outside, but I agree with Tom that we should have a Plan B. Something
> at
> >>>> least semi-coordinated. It may mean the difference between losing an
> >>>> antenna (or worse) or losing a lot of time on the air trying to figure
> >>>> out what to do with all of the gear once we stuff it indoors. Having
> an
> >>>> idea of where to put things (the back room Dan mentioned? with tables
> >>>> setup?) will save us a lot of tripping over each other *if* we have to
> >>>> move fast.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris Ordiway - KC3DIG
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