From colstonl at gmail.com  Mon Jul  6 10:56:38 2015
From: colstonl at gmail.com (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 09:56:38 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] NWS survey
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEFLkiPTR2=1YPR7tFX9SP5CL7cnFrrOftqSCO-NfLmz2Q@mail.gmail.com>

*Dear Colleague,*

*For the past several years, the National Weather Service (NWS) has been
exploring the strengths and weaknesses of the Watch, Warning, and Advisory
system used to convey our expectations of hazardous weather.  The system
has been in place for decades, and it serves a critical need for the public
and NWS partners for decision-making purposes.*

*The NWS is considering whether the current system is the best we can do to
accomplish our hazard messaging goals and promote a Weather-Ready Nation.
The answer to this question rests, in part, with your needs and the
experiences you've had using the present system.*

*Please share your experiences by completing the survey at:*

*http://erg.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0f8wuXuJOHfkaSF
<http://erg.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0f8wuXuJOHfkaSF>*

*The survey asks you to consider a particular hazardous weather event where
the messaging did (or did not) work well from your viewpoint, or from the
viewpoint of your community or audience.  You may also provide input on
your general experience with specific types of hazardous weather situations
rather than focusing on a particular event.  *

*The survey can be taken in about 20 minutes if you have information from
an event (or your general experience) already in mind.  You may also
complete the survey in more than one session; your completed responses will
be saved for up to one week.*

*Submissions are due by August 15, 2015.*

*Please email any questions to hazsimp at noaa.gov <hazsimp at noaa.gov>.*

*We hope you will take time out of your busy day to complete this survey.
Your input will help guide any improvements to this critical system to
enable the NWS to best serve you and your community.*

*Sincerely yours,*

*Eli Jacks*
*Acting Chief, NWS Forecast Services Division*

-- 


Lloyd Colston   director
Altus Emergency Management
Altus, OK      http://www.cityofaltus.org
Phone:  580.481.2260
Fax:  580.482.4738

It is better to be informed than it is to be afraid.

http://twitter.com/altusready
http://altusem.blogspot.com
calendly.com/kc5fm <http://www.speek.com/kc5fm>

From colstonl at gmail.com  Mon Jul  6 10:58:12 2015
From: colstonl at gmail.com (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 09:58:12 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] NWS changes
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEEC5d6pXmNYGKmTgJ86-k_Vat85x_2qC6xm+Yo1irpcdw@mail.gmail.com>

*CHANGES TO NWS NORMAN WEBSITE*
Some major changes are coming to the NWS Norman website, starting in
October. We (along with all NWS Southern Region offices) will be moving
over to a new standardized content management system, and this means our
page will look much different. We are still working out the details for how
we will display our graphics, but you can get a rough idea of how the page
might look by going here  <http://www.weather.gov/eax/>and here
<http://www.weather.gov/ict/>.

*NEW ICONS*
After surveys and collaboration with risk communication experts, the NWS
will roll out new icons for all our weather.gov local forecasts starting
tomorrow(July 7th). You can read more about the process and see examples
here
<https://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/16094/picturing-forecast-national-weather-service-graphics-developed-ncar-research>

*2015 PRELIMINARY TORNADO NUMBERS*
We are still in the process of investigating and finalizing our tornado
count for May 2015. This process will continue until the end of July, when
we enter and officially certify the data in the NWS database. Until then,
all numbers will be preliminary.

As of this morning (7/6/15) here are the preliminary numbers:
*May 2015 tornadoes*
State of Oklahoma - 76
WFO Norman CWA Oklahoma counties - 52
WFO Norman CWA Texas counties - 13

*2015 tornadoes*
State of Oklahoma - 88
WFO Norman CWA Oklahoma counties - 58
WFO Norman CWA Texas counties - 14

*STATE LEVEL SPC GRAPHICS*
The Storm Prediction Center will be adding state level graphics to their
outlook pages very soon. If you'd like a preview, go to the following links
to see state-centric Day One outlook graphics for Texas and Oklahoma:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/public/state/images/TX_swody1.png
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/public/state/images/OK_swody1.png

*CHANGES TO WPC QPF TIMES*
Starting on July 15th, the Weather Prediction Center (WPC) is making
changes to the issuance times for their quantitative precipitation
forecasts. Get the details here
<http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn15-29qpf_timing.htm>

Rick


Rick Smith - Warning Coordination Meteorologist
National Weather Service - Norman Forecast Office
120 David L. Boren Blvd., Suite 2400
Norman, OK 73072

From kc9zar at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 07:53:24 2015
From: kc9zar at gmail.com (Kc9zar)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 07:53:24 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
Message-ID: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 

Thanks for the add. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR

From colstonl at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 08:27:10 2015
From: colstonl at gmail.com (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 07:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Understanding Marine Customers, 2nd edition
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEFAVGzF0GVTWK-cHNqK6DtaBt9njjqvb4C1r5Mn=XapTA@mail.gmail.com>

The COMET Program is pleased to announce the publication of the new lesson,
"Understanding Marine Customers, 2nd edition"
This 60-75 minute lesson introduces the different marine forecast customers
and discusses what forecast information they need to know and why they
nearshore users, such as beachgoers, surfers, and sea kayakers. The
intended audience for Understanding Marine Customers is the operational
forecaster that is new to the task of producing a marine forecast. Please
visit https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1121 for more
information about this lesson.

For best viewing of content on the MetEd website, please ensure that you
have a browser updated to its latest version with JavaScript enabled. For
technical support, please visit our Registration and Support FAQs,
https://www.meted.ucar.edu/resources_faq.php

We welcome any comments or questions you may have regarding the content,
instructional approach, or use of this lesson. Please e-mail your comments
or questions to Alan Bol (alanbol at ucar.edu).

-- 


Lloyd Colston   director
Altus Emergency Management
Altus, OK      http://www.cityofaltus.org
Phone:  580.481.2260
Fax:  580.482.4738

It is better to be informed than it is to be afraid.

http://twitter.com/altusready
http://altusem.blogspot.com
calendly.com/kc5fm <http://www.speek.com/kc5fm>

From mskiphunt at att.net  Wed Jul  8 10:45:13 2015
From: mskiphunt at att.net (milton hunt)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:45:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2134562051.617851.1436366713506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings Jerry. Welcome to the world of weather spotting. ? I am mskiphunt at att.net located in Spring Texas. Just a bit north of Houston. My personal is Skip. 


     On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:21 AM, Kc9zar <kc9zar at gmail.com> wrote:
   

 Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 

Thanks for the add. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From clarajoworth at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 12:02:15 2015
From: clarajoworth at gmail.com (clarajoworth at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 11:02:15 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Hello!
Message-ID: <4F9CA997-FA93-4D95-A978-87DB69C8671C@gmail.com>

Hi everyone! My name is Clara Jo Worth and go by Jo. We recently just moved from Kansas City down south to Fort Leonard Wood. That's me! :)

Clara Jo

From k.heyboer at verizon.net  Wed Jul  8 16:16:40 2015
From: k.heyboer at verizon.net (Kevin Heyboer)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:16:40 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7351DA011E24C07BD8E8291E16BA9FE@MANDI>

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.  

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 

Thanks for the add. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From jcooley at tatitlek.com  Wed Jul  8 16:28:49 2015
From: jcooley at tatitlek.com (Jerry Cooley)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 20:28:49 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <B7351DA011E24C07BD8E8291E16BA9FE@MANDI>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
	<B7351DA011E24C07BD8E8291E16BA9FE@MANDI>
Message-ID: <6BDF0CEA066D7A41B74E30FD4D83C754B882CD63@SVTTCMS01.corp.tatitlek.com>

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local, county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA. 
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation 
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054 
Work: (760) 725 4020 
Cell? : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39 repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3 different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.  

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia, including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ, quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 

Thanks for the add. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From skywarn at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jul  8 20:53:05 2015
From: skywarn at mailman.qth.net (Susie Susieq via Skywarn)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 00:53:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Skywarn] I am a new member
Message-ID: <784035848.1581107.1436403185802.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,I am a new member..I? would like to thank you for letting me join your group.:)??My name is susieq..I am 54 years old female..I have a wonderful Fiancee ,,we will be married n feb2,2016? I have 4 wonderful cats..I think of them as m childern..I wanted to join this group to learn more about the weather.I live in Florida and here we have bad weather sometimes 
susieq?THE ONE AND ONLY SUSIEQ

From k.heyboer at verizon.net  Wed Jul  8 22:27:27 2015
From: k.heyboer at verizon.net (Kevin Heyboer)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 22:27:27 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <6BDF0CEA066D7A41B74E30FD4D83C754B882CD63@SVTTCMS01.corp.tatitlek.com>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
	<B7351DA011E24C07BD8E8291E16BA9FE@MANDI>
	<6BDF0CEA066D7A41B74E30FD4D83C754B882CD63@SVTTCMS01.corp.tatitlek.com>
Message-ID: <0C1B7E7540C24EF492E103C19AF05AE4@MANDI>

I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA. 
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation 
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054 
Work: (760) 725 4020 
Cell? : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.  

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 

Thanks for the add. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From jcooley at tatitlek.com  Wed Jul  8 23:02:36 2015
From: jcooley at tatitlek.com (Jerry Cooley)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 03:02:36 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <0C1B7E7540C24EF492E103C19AF05AE4@MANDI>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
	<B7351DA011E24C07BD8E8291E16BA9FE@MANDI>
	<6BDF0CEA066D7A41B74E30FD4D83C754B882CD63@SVTTCMS01.corp.tatitlek.com>,
	<0C1B7E7540C24EF492E103C19AF05AE4@MANDI>
Message-ID: <u4eq547pm9gk8ae5ioiiylr1.1436410945001@email.android.com>

Kevin,

No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of communication on a national basis for those who wished to participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody just calm down."



Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar' <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
Work: (760) 725 4020
Cell  : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.

Thanks for the add.

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From pierce.bruneau at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 23:16:45 2015
From: pierce.bruneau at gmail.com (Pierce Bruneau)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 21:16:45 -0600
Subject: [Skywarn] Hello from a new guy
Message-ID: <AA07C765-A44D-469A-A054-A569D91FE44C@gmail.com>

Hello all,

I just recently went to a spring storm spotting seminar, and have also taken the online classes. I am in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area, and have also just very recently passed my Technician license for Ham radio; call sign KG5IFP,though I still need a radio. I do reports via various methods and means; I also enjoy weather photography. I've lived in Eagan, Minnesota and Albuquerque.

I do have a quick question, I have noticed a few of you have Spotter numbers. I wonder, what are they, and can I obtain one. If so, how?

Thanks and best wishes-
Pierce, KG5IFP

From sspence at green-trust.org  Thu Jul  9 07:24:24 2015
From: sspence at green-trust.org (Steve Spence)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
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References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
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I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> Kevin,
>
> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot  
> of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of  
> communication on a national basis for those who wished to  
> participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody  
> just calm down."
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'  
> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
> operators.
>
> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
> fix it.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Greetings from San Diego,
>
> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>
>
> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
> Work: (760) 725 4020
> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Heyboer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
> radio call sign is W9NWS.
>
> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
> NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>
> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
> propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
> trust me when I say these steps are important.
>
> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>
> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
>
> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
> ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
>
> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
> quite impressive.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>
> Thanks for the add.
>
> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From kc9zar at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 07:51:22 2015
From: kc9zar at gmail.com (Kc9zar)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 07:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <u4eq547pm9gk8ae5ioiiylr1.1436410945001@email.android.com>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <73D4939E-D039-4E33-A29D-346CE0E3E8C8@gmail.com>

Thanks for the welcome, and your thoughts. 

Jerry - KC9ZAR

> On Jul 8, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com> wrote:
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of communication on a national basis for those who wished to participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody just calm down." 
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation 
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net> 
> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar' <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn 
> 
> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
> operators.
> 
> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
> fix it.
> 
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
> 
> Greetings from San Diego,
> 
> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
> 
> 
> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA. 
> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation 
> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054 
> Work: (760) 725 4020 
> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Heyboer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
> 
> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
> radio call sign is W9NWS.
> 
> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
> NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
> 
> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
> propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
> trust me when I say these steps are important.
> 
> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.  
> 
> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
> 
> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
> ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
> 
> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
> quite impressive.
> 
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
> 
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county. 
> 
> Thanks for the add. 
> 
> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From k.heyboer at verizon.net  Thu Jul  9 08:39:50 2015
From: k.heyboer at verizon.net (Kevin Heyboer)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:39:50 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] Hello from a new guy
In-Reply-To: <AA07C765-A44D-469A-A054-A569D91FE44C@gmail.com>
References: <AA07C765-A44D-469A-A054-A569D91FE44C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F56E3882D1B4F1A87E42CFB220A3564@MANDI>

The issuance of spotter numbers varies between individual Weather Service
Forecast Offices.  My WSFO in Morristown, TN (MRX) still issues them when
you have taken their class; however, the two other nearest offices,
Peachtree City, GA (FFC) and Greenville-Spartanburg, SC (GSP) no longer do
so because of the employee time involved in maintaining the records.

If you took the course on-line and indicated the WSFO responsible for your
area, then the WCM at that WSFO should have received your spotter training
information.

Here is the link to the WSFO Albuquerque SKYWARN program web page, including
information on their ham station WX5ABQ and the repeater systems used for
weather spotter reporting.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/abq/?n=prepskywarn


Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Pierce
Bruneau
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:17 PM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] Hello from a new guy

Hello all,

I just recently went to a spring storm spotting seminar, and have also taken
the online classes. I am in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area, and have also
just very recently passed my Technician license for Ham radio; call sign
KG5IFP,though I still need a radio. I do reports via various methods and
means; I also enjoy weather photography. I've lived in Eagan, Minnesota and
Albuquerque.

I do have a quick question, I have noticed a few of you have Spotter
numbers. I wonder, what are they, and can I obtain one. If so, how?

Thanks and best wishes-
Pierce, KG5IFP
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From jcooley at tatitlek.com  Thu Jul  9 11:38:56 2015
From: jcooley at tatitlek.com (Jerry Cooley)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:38:56 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <20150709112424.Horde.p5U4ujBMUIdKmzQzJmepOQ7@webmail.green-trust.org>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
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DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> Kevin,
>
> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
> of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
> communication on a national basis for those who wished to
> participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
> just calm down."
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
> operators.
>
> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
> fix it.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Greetings from San Diego,
>
> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>
>
> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
> Work: (760) 725 4020
> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Heyboer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
> radio call sign is W9NWS.
>
> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
> NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>
> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
> propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
> trust me when I say these steps are important.
>
> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>
> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
>
> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
> ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
>
> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
> quite impressive.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>
> Thanks for the add.
>
> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From carolinajohn63 at icloud.com  Thu Jul  9 11:50:05 2015
From: carolinajohn63 at icloud.com (John Griffith)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:50:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
Message-ID: <6994d78c-d6b5-4ba9-a49e-96539ab49447@me.com>

I love the clarity of DMR....The only thing is that the owners of the repeaters can be a pain. ? While ham radio was designed to be open to all users, some DMR repeater owners tend to be a little possessive and block certain things like nets claiming they do not want to occupy a TS for the net. ?Even in areas where it has been proven that NO ONE uses that TS during the scheduled Net time.

I have also heard that there may be an instance where a person or persons have been blocked from using a certain Talk Group for a very poor reason.

This is a smack for DMR......

Anyway, I will continue to use DMR but am now also exploring D-Star which does not have these politically motivated restrictions.

Just food for thought.

On Jul 09, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com> wrote:

DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley, WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

Kevin,

No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
communication on a national basis for those who wished to
participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
just calm down."



Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
<kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I have two answers to your question, Jerry. The first is money. There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations. Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
Work: (760) 725 4020
Cell : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry. As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater. Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL. I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES. Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations. However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN. We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC. There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking. Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager. Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM. My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section. It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.

Thanks for the add.

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From sspence at green-trust.org  Thu Jul  9 12:00:22 2015
From: sspence at green-trust.org (Steve Spence)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:00:22 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <q9bckb24jm93703p9kre29o2.1436456327845@email.android.com>
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DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is  
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do  
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by  
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital  
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay  
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio  
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I  
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the  
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires  
> an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's  
> probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't  
> ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
> Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
> Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I don't even consider DMR ham radio.
>
> No interest.
>
>
>
> Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
>> of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
>> communication on a national basis for those who wished to
>> participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
>> just calm down."
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
>> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
>> The Tatitlek Corporation
>> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
>> Cell    : 760.208.0191
>> Office: 760.275.4020
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
>> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
>> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
>> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
>> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
>> operators.
>>
>> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
>> fix it.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
>> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Greetings from San Diego,
>>
>> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
>> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
>> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
>> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
>> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
>> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
>> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
>> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
>> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
>> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
>> Work: (760) 725 4020
>> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
>> Heyboer
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
>> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
>> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
>> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
>> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
>> radio call sign is W9NWS.
>>
>> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
>> NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
>> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
>> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
>> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
>> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
>> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>>
>> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
>> propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
>> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
>> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
>> trust me when I say these steps are important.
>>
>> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
>> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
>> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
>> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
>> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>>
>> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
>> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
>> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
>> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
>> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
>> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
>> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
>>
>> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
>> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
>> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
>> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
>> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
>> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
>> ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
>> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
>>
>> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
>> quite impressive.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
>> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Hello to the group!
>> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
>> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>>
>> Thanks for the add.
>>
>> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From k.heyboer at verizon.net  Thu Jul  9 13:37:11 2015
From: k.heyboer at verizon.net (Kevin Heyboer)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:37:11 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <20150709160022.Horde.XdMiEmIUdbaAhZQI8vsojg3@webmail.green-trust.org>
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I think the real question is not the use of DMR at all.  The question is the
use of a wide area network of repeaters for a localized event.  I know of
some forecast offices that have SKYWARN wide area nets, including the NI4CE
system reporting to WX4TOR for West Central Florida, The Southeastern Linked
Repeater System reporting to WX4PTC in Peachtree City, GA, and W9ICE and the
Central Indiana SKYWARN Network reporting to W9NWS in Indianapolis.  The one
thing each of these offices has in common is that their County Warning Area
does not extend into more than one state and the forecast office itself is
near the center of the network.

That doesn't work when your forecast office CWA extends into three states,
three different ARRL sections,  works with three different state emergency
management agencies, and three differently organized volunteer emergency
communications services such as ARES, RACES, REACT, ACS, and AUXCOMM.

So, each WCM, in cooperation with local hams, must decide the best way for
their area to communicate storm spotter information in real time based upon
the resources available to them.  In some areas of the "real" tornado alley,
like OK, KS, MO, and NE, storm spotters are paged out like volunteer fire
fighters and operate on public service band frequencies.

It is important to remember that SKYWARN exists to provide real-time severe
weather observations to the NWS in order to support or verify the issuance
of watches and warnings.  We do not exist to relay weather reports to each
other via ham radio.  That is a secondary benefit of monitoring a SKYWARN
net, but not its purpose.

If you do not believe me, try checking into any SKYWARN net and giving a
non-severe weather report or try relaying something you heard on your
television weather.  The net control will probably be polite at first, but
then they will either ignore you, or in worst case, publicly humiliate you
over the air by saying something like "This net is a directed net for
reporting severe weather ONLY!!"

Heck, the biggest problem I have is getting spotters to get over the fear of
having their radio antenna struck by lightening.  The darn repeater has been
up at 4900 Feet ASL for 40 years and has never been struck by lightening.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve
Spence
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:00 PM
To: Jerry Cooley
Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is  
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do  
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by  
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital  
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay  
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio  
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I  
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the  
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires  
> an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's  
> probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't  
> ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
> Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
> Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I don't even consider DMR ham radio.
>
> No interest.
>
>
>
> Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
>> of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
>> communication on a national basis for those who wished to
>> participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
>> just calm down."
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
>> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
>> The Tatitlek Corporation
>> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
>> Cell    : 760.208.0191
>> Office: 760.275.4020
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
>> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
>> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There
is
>> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and
antennas
>> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
>> operators.
>>
>> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
>> fix it.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
>> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Greetings from San Diego,
>>
>> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool
is
>> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of
repeaters
>> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
>> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up
and
>> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via
DMR
>> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
>> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
>> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
>> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
>> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
>> Work: (760) 725 4020
>> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
>> Heyboer
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
>> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as
to
>> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by
W9ICE
>> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a
39
>> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
>> radio call sign is W9NWS.
>>
>> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between
the
>> NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and
coordinating
>> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
>> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
>> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity
with
>> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at
your
>> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>>
>> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due
to
>> propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20
years
>> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
>> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups,
please
>> trust me when I say these steps are important.
>>
>> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
>> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
>> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
>> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee
of
>> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>>
>> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
>> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
>> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky
Mountains.
>> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
>> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there,
nor
>> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
>> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
>>
>> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
>> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I
had
>> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and
the
>> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
>> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
>> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a
different
>> ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
>> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
>>
>> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
>> quite impressive.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Kc9zar
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
>> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Hello to the group!
>> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local
70cm
>> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>>
>> Thanks for the add.
>>
>> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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>
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From gs.higgins at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  9 12:28:47 2015
From: gs.higgins at sbcglobal.net (Greg Higgins)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 11:28:47 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
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Skywarn is open to anybody using any type of communication method that the
local NWSO can receive. Just one reason you see NWS offices with 800 phone
numbers, Twitter, FaceBook and other social media outlets. Amateur radio
makes up a large percentage of reports and many offices do have amateur
radio operators and equipment but there is also CB and public safety radio
being utilized in some offices. When it comes to amateur radio, our office
(FW NWS) uses RF over vhf, uhf (through the use of repeaters), hf and has
used packet, APRS and WinLink. Some of our primary linked systems uses IRLP
and / or EchoLink and we also have D-Star and a DVAP. We have attempted to
use numerous communications means but our biggest obstacles are the lack of
spotters to actual make the reports at the county and local areas.

Greg Higgins  KB5GLV

-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry
Cooley
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:39 AM
To: Steve Spence; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires an
amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's probably
really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't ham radio either.
Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> Kevin,
>
> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot of 
> cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of communication 
> on a national basis for those who wished to participate. As my 4 year 
> old grand daughter says....."everybody just calm down."
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell    : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  
> There is no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  
> Transceivers and antennas at weather service offices are donated, as 
> is the time of the volunteer operators.
>
> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, 
> don't fix it.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager http://www.cherokee-ares.net 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Greetings from San Diego,
>
> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications 
> tool is DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network 
> of repeaters providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken 
> down to local, county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR 
> frequently as I run up and down the state of California and enjoy 
> staying in touch with friends via DMR repeaters. DMR repeaters host 
> numerous nets of various user interests. I don't know why SKYWARN couldn't
find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>
>
> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229 Site Manager, Camp 
> Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation Building 2238 Room 123 
> Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
> Work: (760) 725 4020
> Cell  : (760) 208 0191
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Heyboer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious 
> as to why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is 
> served by W9ICE and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the 
> frequency of 146.670 on a 39 repeater network with direct access to 
> the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose radio call sign is W9NWS.
>
> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between 
> the NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and 
> coordinating with W9NWS.org and your local version of 
> ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although your repeater may soon be coordinated 
> in your name and call sign, SKYWARN groups and communications are 
> generally coordinated by a single entity with the knowledge and 
> consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your WSFO. The term
SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>
> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater 
> due to propagation and other considerations.  However, having served 
> for 20 years in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two 
> different WSFO's, 3 different WCM's, and two different Emergency 
> Communications Groups, please trust me when I say these steps are
important.
>
> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 
> of the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked 
> repeater network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all 
> report directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to 
> the trustee of that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>
> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO 
> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia, 
> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky
Mountains.
> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE 
> Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access 
> there, nor is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  
> Internet access for Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during
storms.
>
> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the 
> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, 
> I had to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at 
> Morristown, and the SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far 
> as Tennessee is concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for 
> SKYWARN, but North Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager 
> because we are in a different ARRL section.  It took almost six months 
> to get all the approvals, but we are officially listed and recognized by
both the NWS and ARES.
>
> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on 
> QRZ, quite impressive.
>
> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager http://www.cherokee-ares.net 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a 
> local 70cm repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>
> Thanks for the add.
>
> Jerry - KC9ZAR
> ______________________________________________________________
> Skywarn mailing list
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From k0rvb.tx at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 13:15:12 2015
From: k0rvb.tx at gmail.com (K0RVB)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 12:15:12 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
Message-ID: <q8xgw80kynyj5odyqoqhe1i0.1436462112517@email.android.com>


    
Alright already!!!!Enough is enough!!All of you have made your respective points! Stop driving this subject in the ground!!?Leave it alone and let it die. I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I subscribed to this.You've all made your points SO DROP IT!!


John Ralston - K?RVB
NWS Certified SkyWarn Spotter
NCS Bexar County SkyWarn Net
CoCoRaHs
Ten Ten 763?3
OM 7626

-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org> 
Date: 07/09/2015  11:00 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com> 
Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn 

DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is? 
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do? 
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by? 
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital? 
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay? 
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio? 
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I? 
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the? 
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:

> DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires? 
> an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's? 
> probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't? 
> ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.
>
>
>
> Jerry Cooley,? WX6AAA
> Site Manager
> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
> The Tatitlek Corporation
> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
> Cell??? : 760.208.0191
> Office: 760.275.4020
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org>
> Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>
> I don't even consider DMR ham radio.
>
> No interest.
>
>
>
> Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
>> of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
>> communication on a national basis for those who wished to
>> participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
>> just calm down."
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
>> Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
>> The Tatitlek Corporation
>> GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
>> Cell??? : 760.208.0191
>> Office: 760.275.4020
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net>
>> Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com>, 'Kc9zar'
>> <kc9zar at gmail.com>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> I have two answers to your question, Jerry.? The first is money.? There is
>> no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.? Transceivers and antennas
>> at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
>> operators.
>>
>> The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
>> fix it.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
>> To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Greetings from San Diego,
>>
>> Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
>> DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
>> providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
>> county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
>> down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
>> repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
>> don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.
>>
>>
>> Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
>> Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
>> GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
>> Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
>> Work: (760) 725 4020
>> Cell? : (760) 208 0191
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
>> Heyboer
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
>> To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Welcome to the group, Jerry.? As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
>> why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.? Your county is served by W9ICE
>> and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
>> repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
>> radio call sign is W9NWS.
>>
>> SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
>> NWS and the ARRL.? I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
>> with W9NWS.org and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.? Although
>> your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
>> groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
>> the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
>> WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.
>>
>> Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
>> propagation and other considerations.? However, having served for 20 years
>> in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
>> different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
>> trust me when I say these steps are important.
>>
>> For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
>> the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.? We do not have a linked repeater
>> network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
>> directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
>> that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.
>>
>> We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
>> Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
>> including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
>> The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
>> Cherokee County, NC.? There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
>> is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.? Internet access for
>> Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.
>>
>> When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
>> position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.? Before I could do so, I had
>> to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
>> SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.? My official title, as far as Tennessee is
>> concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
>> Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
>> ARRL section.? It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
>> are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.
>>
>> Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
>> quite impressive.
>>
>> Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
>> AEC Cherokee County NCARES
>> Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
>> http://www.cherokee-ares.net
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
>> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
>>
>> Hello to the group!
>> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
>> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
>>
>> Thanks for the add.
>>
>> Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From lcolston at altusok.gov  Thu Jul  9 15:11:57 2015
From: lcolston at altusok.gov (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:11:57 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] DMR thread
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEFkAia8TX6+ZMwEU+AhRQ0-bzQ-xZ+6aFxGVLbYfofsrg@mail.gmail.com>

Your moderating staff is seeing a number of unsubscriptions from the list.

Many are coming because of the amateur radio discussion.

The discussion of DMR and related topics is now closed.

Please, resume your discussion of Skywarn.  If you want to discuss amateur
radio topics, please do it off list.

73



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From jcooley at tatitlek.com  Thu Jul  9 15:38:41 2015
From: jcooley at tatitlek.com (Jerry Cooley)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 19:38:41 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <75d73ab1-0ba9-4406-9b23-28d5a5a45c43@me.com>
References: <75d73ab1-0ba9-4406-9b23-28d5a5a45c43@me.com>
Message-ID: <6BDF0CEA066D7A41B74E30FD4D83C754B882D37C@SVTTCMS01.corp.tatitlek.com>

Sorry to stir up so much trouble here by merely trying to discuss alternative methods of communication.

Please remove me from this list. I obviously have nothing to contribute.



From: John Griffith [mailto:carolinajohn63 at icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:16 PM
To: K0RVB
Cc: sspence at green-trust.org; Jerry Cooley; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

This last email is the reason I participate very little.   If people wish to discuss until Jesus returns..so what?  If you do not like it....ignore it.....no reason to come off like a pompous person.  And you answered it yourself.......YOU SUBSCRIBED....and have tha ability to unsubscribe.

On Jul 09, 2015, at 03:13 PM, K0RVB <k0rvb.tx at gmail.com<mailto:k0rvb.tx at gmail.com>> wrote:


Alright already!!!!Enough is enough!!All of you have made your respective points! Stop driving this subject in the ground!! Leave it alone and let it die. I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I subscribed to this.You've all made your points SO DROP IT!!


John Ralston - K?RVB
NWS Certified SkyWarn Spotter
NCS Bexar County SkyWarn Net
CoCoRaHs
Ten Ten 763?3
OM 7626

-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 11:00 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>
Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:


DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires
an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's
probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't
ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:

Kevin,

No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
communication on a national basis for those who wished to
participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
just calm down."



Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net<mailto:k.heyboer at verizon.net>>
Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>, 'Kc9zar'
<kc9zar at gmail.com<mailto:kc9zar at gmail.com>>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
Work: (760) 725 4020
Cell  : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org<http://W9NWS.org> and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.

Thanks for the add.

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From jcooley at tatitlek.com  Thu Jul  9 15:53:16 2015
From: jcooley at tatitlek.com (Jerry Cooley)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 19:53:16 +0000
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
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John,

I agree. Members of this forum should be able to discuss whatever without moderator involvement unless it?s abusive. And?..people who do not want to participate in the discussion don?t have to, they don?t need to spew their hate and venom just because they don?t agree or don?t like the subject. I really thought I?d get away from that being this was a forum for SKYWARN folks, thinking most of the folks I deal with in SKYWARN are a little more well educated and less prone to the kind of responses expressed in this thread. This looks more like a trucker CB forum then it does SKYWARN.

?

From: John Griffith [mailto:carolinajohn63 at icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:46 PM
To: Jerry Cooley
Cc: k0rvb.tx at gmail.com; sspence at green-trust.org; skywarn at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Jerry...I value all input....I am disappointed with the responses from the moderators and will ask to be removed as well...

On Jul 09, 2015, at 03:38 PM, Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>> wrote:
Sorry to stir up so much trouble here by merely trying to discuss alternative methods of communication.

Please remove me from this list. I obviously have nothing to contribute.



From: John Griffith [mailto:carolinajohn63 at icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:16 PM
To: K0RVB
Cc: sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>; Jerry Cooley; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

This last email is the reason I participate very little.   If people wish to discuss until Jesus returns..so what?  If you do not like it....ignore it.....no reason to come off like a pompous person.  And you answered it yourself.......YOU SUBSCRIBED....and have tha ability to unsubscribe.

On Jul 09, 2015, at 03:13 PM, K0RVB <k0rvb.tx at gmail.com<mailto:k0rvb.tx at gmail.com>> wrote:


Alright already!!!!Enough is enough!!All of you have made your respective points! Stop driving this subject in the ground!! Leave it alone and let it die. I'm getting to the point where I'm sorry I subscribed to this.You've all made your points SO DROP IT!!


John Ralston - K?RVB
NWS Certified SkyWarn Spotter
NCS Bexar County SkyWarn Net
CoCoRaHs
Ten Ten 763?3
OM 7626

-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 11:00 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>
Cc: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

DMR-MARC requires users of it's network to be hams, but DMR itself is
not HAM tied, it was designed for commercial use. Other networks do
not have the HAM requirement, and non ham frequencies are supported by
DMR.

The DMR codec is proprietary, and a license fee is paid to Digital
Voice Systems, Inc. when a DMR radio is purchased. I don't have to pay
a license fee to a manufacturer in order to communicate on ham radio
frequencies, it's "open". I can build my own equipment if I choose. I
can't build a DMR radio without paying a $100,000 + license fee.

I'm not paying a premium to play in their club. It's against the
openness spirit of Ham Radio.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:

DMR.....occupies the RF spectrum assigned to ham radio......requires
an amateur radio license of at least technical class.....yea it's
probably really not ham radio. Repeaters and IRLP probably aren't
ham radio either. Only real ham radio modes are HF and simplex.



Jerry Cooley,  WX6AAA
Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Spence <sspence at green-trust.org<mailto:sspence at green-trust.org>>
Date: 07/09/2015 04:55 (GMT-08:00)
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I don't even consider DMR ham radio.

No interest.



Quoting Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>:

Kevin,

No one is trying to fix anything. I know the DMR radios cost a lot
of cash. I was merely throwing DMR out there as a means of
communication on a national basis for those who wished to
participate. As my 4 year old grand daughter says....."everybody
just calm down."



Jerry Cooley, Site Manager
Camp Pendleton/29 Palms
The Tatitlek Corporation
GeoNorth, an American Native Corporation
Cell    : 760.208.0191
Office: 760.275.4020


-------- Original message --------
From: Kevin Heyboer <k.heyboer at verizon.net<mailto:k.heyboer at verizon.net>>
Date: 07/08/2015 19:27 (GMT-08:00)
To: Jerry Cooley <jcooley at tatitlek.com<mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com>>, 'Kc9zar'
<kc9zar at gmail.com<mailto:kc9zar at gmail.com>>, skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

I have two answers to your question, Jerry.  The first is money.  There is
no federal or state money for SKYWARN operations.  Transceivers and antennas
at weather service offices are donated, as is the time of the volunteer
operators.

The second answer is a bit of Southern wisdom....If it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cooley [mailto:jcooley at tatitlek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Kevin Heyboer; 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Greetings from San Diego,

Something that I believe SKYWARN could utilize as a communications tool is
DMR radio. DMR (digital mobile radio) is a very robust network of repeaters
providing worldwide coverage. Coverage can also be broken down to local,
county, state, regional or nationwide. I use DMR frequently as I run up and
down the state of California and enjoy staying in touch with friends via DMR
repeaters. DMR repeaters host numerous nets of various user interests. I
don't know why SKYWARN couldn't find time on DMR for a hosted net.


Jerry Cooley WX6AAA Spotter Number SDG 229
Site Manager, Camp Pendleton/Twentynine Palms, CA.
GeoNorth FTSE, an Alaskan Native Corporation
Building 2238 Room 123 Camp Pendleton, CA 92054
Work: (760) 725 4020
Cell  : (760) 208 0191



-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Heyboer
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'Kc9zar'; skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Welcome to the group, Jerry.  As a SKYWARN Net Manager, I am curious as to
why you want/need your own SKYWARN repeater.  Your county is served by W9ICE
and the Central Indiana Skywarn Network on the frequency of 146.670 on a 39
repeater network with direct access to the WSFO Indianapolis (IND) whose
radio call sign is W9NWS.

SKYWARN exists on ham radio through a Memorandum of Understand between the
NWS and the ARRL.  I am hopeful that you are communicating and coordinating
with W9NWS.org<http://W9NWS.org> and your local version of ARES/ACS/AUXCOM/RACES.  Although
your repeater may soon be coordinated in your name and call sign, SKYWARN
groups and communications are generally coordinated by a single entity with
the knowledge and consent of the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at your
WSFO. The term SKYWARN is trademarked by the Department of Commerce.

Now, there may be a need in Daviess County for an additional repeater due to
propagation and other considerations.  However, having served for 20 years
in the capacity of a SKYWARN Coordinator for two different WSFO's, 3
different WCM's, and two different Emergency Communications Groups, please
trust me when I say these steps are important.

For example, my group, SW Carolina SKYWARN is also known as District 2 of
the CWA for the WSFO Morristown, TN.  We do not have a linked repeater
network, so each of the 7 districts runs its own net, but all report
directly to WX4MRX and each of the 7 Net Managers reports to the trustee of
that call sign and the WCM in Morristown.

We will likely never have a linked network of repeaters because WSFO
Morristown covers East Tennessee, SW North Carolina, and SW Virginia,
including the Cumberland Plateau and portions of the Great Smoky Mountains.
The repeater we use is located at 4900 feet on Joanna Bald in far NE
Cherokee County, NC.  There are no phone lines or internet access there, nor
is there direct, line of sight for UHF/SHF linking.  Internet access for
Echolink/IRLP is not reliable here, especially during storms.

When I moved to Murphy three years ago, I volunteered to take on the
position of Skywarn Coordinator or Net Manager.  Before I could do so, I had
to get permission from the trustee of WX4MRX, the WCM at Morristown, and the
SEC of NCARES/NCAUXCOM.  My official title, as far as Tennessee is
concerned, is District 2 Emergency Coordinator for SKYWARN, but North
Carolina only recognizes me as a Net Manager because we are in a different
ARRL section.  It took almost six months to get all the approvals, but we
are officially listed and recognized by both the NWS and ARES.

Good luck with your project, and by the way, I saw your station on QRZ,
quite impressive.

Kevin Heyboer KD4UYR
AEC Cherokee County NCARES
Southwest Carolina SKYWARN Net Manager
http://www.cherokee-ares.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kc9zar
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skywarn at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn

Hello to the group!
My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local 70cm
repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.

Thanks for the add.

Jerry - KC9ZAR
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From anadawn at umich.edu  Thu Jul  9 15:54:22 2015
From: anadawn at umich.edu (Dawn Nelson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:54:22 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] Weather Obs, Ham Radio, and Communications Training
Message-ID: <CAHMTcsJoBh0Q2Pf9torJX_Q41_Gp-vAa+xw76vYadxc3O1D1yQ@mail.gmail.com>

HI All,

I am new to Skywarn, and recently earned my ham radio license (hurray!) and
I am very eager to brush up on training and cross-training so I can lend
skills and support to first response efforts during environmental/natural
hazard/disaster events (etc.).

While I have the 10th edition ham radio tech book, I wonder if there are
other guides in print to help chart a course for how one might navigate the
vast field of communications/emergency-response training/cross-training?

Thanks so much in advance!

Dawn Nelson, KE8BEP
Ann Arbor, Michigan

From lcolston at altusok.gov  Thu Jul  9 21:37:46 2015
From: lcolston at altusok.gov (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:37:46 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Determining the Onset and Risk of Tropical Cyclone Winds
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEHDY_mt_j7UkpA02DbMEQZzyU3Zk13-TVucjP=EMBnrLw@mail.gmail.com>

The COMET Program is pleased to announce the publication of the new lesson,
"Determining the Onset and Risk of Tropical Cyclone Winds?. This lesson
introduces forecasters to the probabilistic guidance products used by the
National Hurricane Center to assess tropical cyclone wind threats. It
provides an overview of how these probabilistic wind speed products are
created, their purposes, and how to interpret them. The lesson also
provides practice in determining the total risk and timing for
location-specific peak wind events. This lesson will take 40 minutes to
complete (not including the quiz).

The intended audience for "Determining the Onset and Risk of Tropical
Cyclone Winds" includes forecasters in the U.S., Canada, and the Caribbean,
emergency managers, and others with general interest in tropical cyclone
impacts. National Weather Service forecast offices could also use the
module in their training programs in preparation for hurricane season.
Please follow this link to the MetEd description page that provides
additional information and the link to begin the lesson:
https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1190
<https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1190>

For those unfamiliar with probabilistic guidance, we recommend the
previously published lesson ?Forecasting Tropical Cyclone Storm Surge? as a
prerequisite https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1159.

The MetEd website relies on JavaScript, and some lessons rely on Adobe?
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or questions to Tsvet Ross-Lazarov (tlazarov at ucar.edu) or Vanessa
Vincente (vincente at ucar.edu).

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Lloyd Colston   director
Altus Emergency Management
Altus, OK      http://www.altusok.gov
Phone:  580.481.2260
Fax:  580.482.4738

It is better to be informed than it is to be afraid.

http://twitter.com/altusready
http://altusem.blogspot.com
calendly.com/kc5fm <http://www.speek.com/kc5fm>

From skywarn at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jul 11 21:25:11 2015
From: skywarn at mailman.qth.net (Ron Schoner via Skywarn)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 21:25:11 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] Joning the Skywarn Net
Message-ID: <14e7fddae7f-507e-4cf1@webprd-a63.mail.aol.com>


My name is Ron Schoner, K4OIL Stuart Martin County Florida. I have signed up for the e-mail list tonight.
I am a member of the Martin County Skywarn group. My spotter number is MAR-046. 

I have tried to check in tonight, but had the wrong tone setting. Will try next month. (Aug. 1 ) ? Additional information is on QRZ K4OIL.

Thanks

Ron 73's

From w9bu_lists at rlburns.net  Sun Jul 19 13:02:13 2015
From: w9bu_lists at rlburns.net (Bob Burns W9BU)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:02:13 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
In-Reply-To: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
References: <C66E6434-19B7-4AAF-97AF-F2C6B9E4CC00@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03aa01d0c244$a9adaac0$fd090040$@rlburns.net>

Jerry, have you checked to see if there is an existing Skywarn group in
Daviess County? You might check with local hams in the area, check into
local nets, or attend local club meetings to see what's going on if you
haven't already.

Daviess County, Indiana, is covered by the Indianapolis NWS office and
Skywarn reports are handled through Central Indiana Skywarn which serves as
a common collection point for reports. When activated by the Indianapolis
NWS, Central Indiana Skywarn solicits reports from county-level Skywarn
nets, but the organization of county-level spotting and net activities is up
to the individual county.

The county repeater map at  w9nws.org/repeater_map  shows the 146.670 MHz
repeater as the Skywarn repeater for Daviess County, but I believe that
repeater is located somewhere near Vincennes. The 146.925 MHz and 443.925
MHz repeaters in Vincennes are linked into the 146.970 MHz repeater in
Indianapolis which is the primary repeater for Central Indiana Skywarn.

If you have questions about Central Indiana Skywarn, you may want to contact
Mark Shaffer N9GDR using the contact form at w9nws.org. 

Bob...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skywarn [mailto:skywarn-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Kc9zar
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:53 AM
> To: skywarn at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Skywarn] New to skywarn
> 
> Hello to the group!
> My name is Jerry - KC9ZAR and live in Washington Indiana. I own a local
70cm
> repeater and would like to start skywarn in our county.
> 
> Thanks for the add.
> 
> Jerry - KC9ZAR


From colstonl at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 10:23:15 2015
From: colstonl at gmail.com (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:23:15 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] How to Tweet Responsibly in Severe Weather
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEHU7++08Eq5rM-sfG9s2dhM+HQYE=8sXin0byCNmc=Yfg@mail.gmail.com>

http://vosg.us/blog/2014/04/28/tweet-responsibly-in-severe-weather/?utm_content=bufferf405d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

As we talk up our weather to our folks, here's some tips.

73

Lloyd

From lcolston at altusok.gov  Tue Jul 28 21:14:13 2015
From: lcolston at altusok.gov (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:14:13 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Local Storm Surge Forecasting
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEE9KymVU846M1GVMwNuQR_EfguxfXJSr8vAJLoQkPAr_g@mail.gmail.com>

The COMET Program is pleased to announce the publication of the new lesson,
"Use of Probabilistic Surge Guidance in Local Storm Surge Forecasting?.
This lesson introduces forecasters to the probabilistic storm surge
guidance used by the National Weather Service to assess local surge threats
and impacts. It will provide practice in determining the chance that
critical surge thresholds may be reached or exceeded and when this is most
likely to occur. Developing a public message that includes important
potential surge values, threats, and impacts information will also be
explored. The lesson will take ~45 minutes to complete (not including the
quiz).

We strongly recommend reviewing the ?Introduction to Tropical Cyclone Storm
Surge?, ?Forecasting Tropical Cyclone Storm Surge?, and ?Storm Surge and
Datums? lessons before beginning this lesson. Without these prerequisites,
learners may find this lesson very challenging.

The intended audience for "Use of Probabilistic Surge Guidance in Local
Storm Surge Forecasting" includes forecasters in the U.S., Canada, and the
Caribbean, emergency managers, and others with general interest in tropical
cyclone storm surge. National Weather Service forecast offices could also
use the module in their training programs in preparation for hurricane
season.  Please follow this link to the MetEd description page that
provides additional information and the link to begin the lesson:
https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1160

The MetEd website relies on JavaScript, and some lessons rely on Adobe?
Flash? for navigation, animation, and/or presentation of multimedia
elements. Ensure that you have a browser updated to its latest version with
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Altus Emergency Management
Altus, OK      http://www.altusok.gov
Phone:  580.481.2260
Fax:  580.482.4738

It is better to be informed than it is to be afraid.

http://twitter.com/altusready
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From wa3afs at nycap.rr.com  Tue Jul 28 22:25:02 2015
From: wa3afs at nycap.rr.com (wa3afs at nycap.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:25:02 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] SKYWARN NWS Support
Message-ID: <55B8397E.13362.8B3EE6@wa3afs.nycap.rr.com>

I am the regional SKYWARN Coordinator for the NWS Albany office (Covers parts of 4 
states)

I have questions for those of you that interact directly with your local NWS office where a 
permanent ham radio station is maintained for SKYWARN use:

*   Who provided the radio equipment?
*   Who maintains the equipment when something goes wrong or when it has reached the 
    end of its useful life?
*   Who maintains the coax and antenna(s)?

Thanks and 73





From baptist at comcast.net  Wed Jul 29 13:35:57 2015
From: baptist at comcast.net (Kevin L. Walton)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:35:57 -0400
Subject: [Skywarn] Looking for SKYWARN group in Central/Northern Virginia
In-Reply-To: <55B8397E.13362.8B3EE6@wa3afs.nycap.rr.com>
References: <55B8397E.13362.8B3EE6@wa3afs.nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B54A2A9D78D14ED5A7AABEB8D58A2069@KEVINPC>

I am looking for a local, SKYWARN group in Central/Northern Virginia.  I
live in Culpeper County.  SKYWARN Basic Training / Amateur Radio Operator

Thank you & 73s,

Kevin Walton / N4RMF
Culpeper, Virginia


From clarajoworth at gmail.com  Wed Jul 29 13:47:47 2015
From: clarajoworth at gmail.com (clarajoworth at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Certification
Message-ID: <952B3FEF-3E82-4302-8C7A-DFD55F9F5659@gmail.com>

Hi, my name is Clara Jo Worthand I live in Fort Leonard Wood Missouri. My husband is in the army and we have 4 awesome kids. I have taken some classes in Kansas City but have never became officially certified. Could someone point me in the right direction as to where I can become an official storm tracker? This is a passion of mine and would love to be able to contribute.

Clara Jo

From skywarn at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jul 29 15:36:03 2015
From: skywarn at mailman.qth.net (Lloyd Colston via Skywarn)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:36:03 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Skywarn post from clarajoworth@gmail.com requires
	approval
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21439.1438192080.22967.skywarn@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.21439.1438192080.22967.skywarn@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <CAGeNtEFrq8O7QPRyJBRPO9i4ZuPf23WobHuUMeYViR826xX80g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, <skywarn-owner at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Could someone point me in the right direction as to where I can become an
> official storm tracker?


Contact your local emergency management official or the Warning
Coordination Meteorologist in your County Warning Area.

In your case, that would be Springfield, MO
http://www.weather.gov/sgf/skywarn

Hope that helps.

73




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From lcolston at altusok.gov  Thu Jul 30 05:49:15 2015
From: lcolston at altusok.gov (Lloyd Colston)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:49:15 -0500
Subject: [Skywarn] Introduction to Meteorological Charting
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The COMET Program is pleased to announce the publication of the new lesson,
"Introduction to Meteorological Charting". More information about this
lesson is available online at
https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_module.php?id=1147. This 30-minute
overview offers an introduction to surface and upper air observations and
how these data are presented on meteorological charts. The lesson examines
how basic charts and analyses can reveal the locations of major weather
features, including areas of high or low pressure as well as fronts.
Examples are provided for both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres to
compare and contrast the circulations in each part of the world.
Supplemental materials include a series of drill exercises to practice
identifying and coding the 100 present weather types.

The intended audience for Introduction to Meteorological Charting is any
person interested in learning more about weather charts and mapping surface
and upper air observations. The lesson is specifically targeted to
observers wishing to expand their knowledge of the basics of weather
forecasting, but with its broad scope, the material should also appeal to
students and members of the general public.

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We welcome any comments or questions you may have regarding the content,
instructional approach, or use of this lesson. Please e-mail your comments
or questions to Bruce Muller (bmuller at ucar.edu), Amy Stevermer (asteverm
at ucar.edu), or Lis Cohen (lcohen at ucar.edu).
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From rich.dl at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jul 30 12:22:37 2015
From: rich.dl at hotmail.co.uk (richard dalziel)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:22:37 +0100
Subject: [Skywarn] Joining Skywarn groups
Message-ID: <DUB123-W178E376F1926A4A5310F0FA48B0@phx.gbl>

Hi all 
 
My name is Richard Dalziel I live in the United Kingdom, I am Skywarn certified and trained but can someone please help me 
to know what is the best group I can join.?
 
 
Thanks
 
Richard Dalziel