[SkyHub] FCC Filing about possible realocations of HF frequencies

[Harold Hallikainen]

So far, I see nothing wrong with it. It will be similar to international
broadcast using DRM. They COULD do this right now using DRM except that
international broadcast is for reception by the public instead of point to
point as they are proposing.

It's possible someone like ARRL will find some detail that makes this a
concern to amateur radio. Thus far, I have not found anything. It is
certainly generating a lot of rumor, though!

Harold
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On Fri, July 14, 2023 12:02 pm, Bryan Burrma wrote:
> I’m honestly surprised we haven’t heard about this sooner. Comments
> close in only a few weeks. Apparently this has been in the works since
> April. That fact alone give it a sketchy feel.
>
> Bryan KC8HPS
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 14, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Harold Hallikainen via SkyHub
>> <skyhub at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>> They want to use HF (and are using HF under experimental licenses)
>> due to
>> the lower latency compared to fiber and especially compared to Internet
>> where packet relay adds more delay.
>>
>> The power is lower than that used for international broadcast (they are
>> proposing 20 kW while international broadcast is required to run at
>> least
>> 50 kW). The bandwidth proposed (10 kHz) is also the same as
>> international
>> broadcast (double sideband AM). So, thus far, I do not see an issue. But
>> we'll see if ARRL finds one.
>>
>> Harold
>> https://w6iwi.org
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, July 14, 2023 8:43 am, Jack Roland wrote:
>>> Hey Jeff I agree really.  Shortwave “Broadcasting” and other uses
>>> would not be very commercially viable as the internet and other modes
>>> of
>>> communication are prevalent these days, and the general public are not
>>> the
>>> least interested really in anything in the “shortwave” frequencies.
>>>  I
>>> am almost wondering if this isn’t either a hoax or some off beat
>>> groups
>>> attempt at another agenda at the most.  And, as others have pointed
>>> out,
>>> the ARRL will be on this like a “duck on a June bug”!  ,😊
>>> Thank you good sir!
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Jack E. Roland KEØVH
>>> www.ke0vh.com<http://www.ke0vh.com>
>>> www.skyhublink.com<http://www.skyhublink.com>
>>> 303-704-3290
>>> From: Jeffrey Bauer <bauerjv at icloud.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 8:11 AM
>>> To: Jack Roland <ke0vh at outlook.com>
>>> Subject: Re: FCC Filing about possible realocations of HF frequencies
>>>
>>> Thanks Jack,
>>>
>>> Yep I used it as my News article for this week, but I have to admit
>>> that I
>>> don’t understand why they would want this since high speed internet
>>> is
>>> already capable of handling this application.  Yes, some areas are not
>>> served by high speed IP but you would hope that they might be smart
>>> enough
>>> to extend internet’s coverage instead of wasting radio bandwidth.  I
>>> thought that’s what Elon was already supplying.  That would not only
>>> accomplish their purpose but supply the internet to a whole bunch of
>>> under
>>> served people.  I wonder if there are other reasons for establishing
>>> this.
>>> I’ve found that if something doesn’t make sense, it’s probably
>>> not
>>> true.  Even SW broadcasting is largely dying because internet is more
>>> economical.  Just saying.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Jeffrey V. Bauer
>>> 6381 Mulberry Ln.
>>> Macungie, PA 18062
>>> WA3PNY
>>> CCS-7 3142263
>>> NXDN 504
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2023, at 9:38 AM, Jack Roland
>>> <ke0vh at outlook.com<mailto:ke0vh at outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack E. Roland KEØVH
>>> www.ke0vh.com<http://www.ke0vh.com>
>>> www.skyhublink.com<http://www.skyhublink.com>
>>> 303-704-3290
>>> From:
>>> skyhub-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skyhub-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>>> <skyhub-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skyhub-bounces at mailman.qth.net>>
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jack Roland
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:26 PM
>>> To: skyhub at mailman.qth.net<mailto:skyhub at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: [SkyHub] FCC Filing about possible realocations of HF
>>> frequencies
>>>
>>> Could this possibly be detrimental to amateur radio, or is it something
>>> not to worry about?
>>>
>>> More to come.
>>> 73’
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Jack E. Roland KEØVH
>>> www.ke0vh.com<http://www.ke0vh.com>
>>> www.skyhublink.com<http://www.skyhublink.com>
>>> 303-704-3290
>>> <FCC FILING Regarding Ham Band allocations.pdf>
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