[SJRA-Members] Ongoing Vile Transmissions on 7.2 MHz LSB

Sat Mar 2 09:23:03 EST 2019

Yep - FCC has sole enforcement authority....not your local police, not ARRL Official Observers (OOs) or their new Volunteer Monitors (VMs), etc. The sole role of OOs / VMs in these matters is to observe and report....that's it! They can't take their radios away, take-down their antennas, or pin their coax. The FCC also prefers to collect its own evidence for enforcement actions...which means that their wheels turn EXTREMELY slowly.

Your best bet is to ignore the banana. Most of these idiots are doing this for the reaction. Ignore 'em and you take their fun away.

Jon
W2MC
former OOC, SNJ

> On March 2, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ed Cienki <ed.cienki at verizon.net mailto:ed.cienki at verizon.net > wrote:
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> 
>     ‎Hello Everyone:
> 
>     I seldom comment, but I am watching the dialogue in this email string. Some of you may know me as an SJRA Member and a former SJRA Board Member.‎ I am also an attorney. I serve as counsel to the SJRA and other amateur radio clubs. I also served as the National Operations Officer for the Air Force MARS Program and wrote the document known as the MOI. Lastly, I am an ARRL Volunteer Counsel Program Member 
>     ‎
>     As far a my activity on the band's goes,‎ I until recently I was very active on the HF bands (20/40/75 phone) and I endured the abuse of the HF bands Mark discussed in his original email and at one point I put up a 160m antenna to avoid the QRM'rs.
> 
>     As an aside and for clarity, the FCC does not prohibit non-licensed persons from purchasing transceivers. So, anybody can buy equipment, although most ethical sellers i.e. HRO require that a call sign be given when an order is placed and the call sign needs to match the delivery address for the equipment.  However, the FCC is quite vigilent in spectrum abuse enforcement.‎ So, whether a person is licensed and abusing license privileges or is unlicensed and needs to be stopped from committing the disruptive behavior.
> 
>     So, my ragchew group handles QRM'rs as follows (which many of you have discussed already).
>        1. Ignore... and do not engage in any discussion on the radio wave with the QRM'rs.
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>        1. Do not engage in any discussion on the radio airwaves about the QRM'rs and/or their what they said.
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>        1. Do make an audio recording of the QRM'rs and be sure to note the date and time (be sure to include the time zone), frequency and mode. If you have a directional antenna, note the direction of the signal.
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>        1. Do make a report to the FCC's spectrum enforcement bureau‎
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>     Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>       Original Message  
>     From: Roy Herman
>     Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 19:45
>     To: sjra-members at mailman.qth.net mailto:sjra-members at mailman.qth.net
>     Subject: Re: [SJRA-Members] Ongoing Vile Transmissions on 7.2 MHz LSB
> 
>     The last thing you want to do is acknowledge them on the air.
>     For every miscreant there is at least one "self proclaimed enforcer" who
>     tries either to lecture the offender into compliance or take issue with
>     the viewpoints expressed.
>     Once you've made yourself known to them they will probably jump on you
>     whenever they can.
>     You can and probably should report them to the FCC and LEAVE IT AT THAT.
>     At the very least, stay 3-5 KHz away from them.
>     Granted, it took a long time, but as a result of repeated complaints
>     from hams, the FCC eventually caught up with the 14.313 circus.
>     This is the kind of behavior that drove me to improve my CW skills
> 
>     Roy
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On 3/1/19 12:38, MARK WALTERS wrote:
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>         > > Bob,
> >         You are correct. They don't have to be licensed to transmit or have equipment, however, the FCC will still to track/locate/assess cease and desist orders and levy fines..etc. One operator I heard commented on these transmissions that they had made prior attempts to locate the source which was being routed over the internet and they were trying to use the source IP address of the transmissions through a network of HF equipment/computer links.... back to the origin. These clowns are probably a step ahead of most of us in attempting to remain anonymous as to location/source....
> >         Reading the recent FCC enforcement actions from FCC on radio issues found online, the many of the violations in fact come from non-licensed entities but they still face the same enforcement actions/penalties.
> >         Mark KD2JPW
> > 
> >         https://www.fcc.gov/general/amateur-radio-service-enforcement-actions
> >         ( a link I found earlier this AM was up to date into feb 2019 vs this link)
> > 
> > 
> >         https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/fcc-enforcement-actions-against-pirate-radio-location/
> > 
> >             > > > On March 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM Robert Kernish <arkay8 at verizon.net mailto:arkay8 at verizon.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             We can't even be sure that these are licensed amateurs, since
> > >             transceivers and amps are available to anyone with the money. Amazon is
> > >             not just a place to get cheap Chinese VHF/UHF sets; anyone with the
> > >             money can get a serious HF rig like the Yaesu 991A, Kenwood TS590SG or
> > >             the Icom IC7300, and Amazon won't ask for your call.
> > > 
> > >             73,
> > >             Bob, KD2ADL
> > > 
> > >             On 3/1/2019 11:10 AM, Bob Beyer wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > Hi Mark,
> > > > 
> > > >                 Welcome to the dark side of amateur radio. With roughly 3/4 of a million hams in the U. S. , it is inevitable that our group represents a wide swath of or general population. Some of those people will hold views that are not consistent with generally accepted standards including good taste, decency, racial diversity, or even FCC law.
> > > > 
> > > >                 The band of clowns on 7.200 is not the only such group on the HF bands. This frequency has long been famous for monopolizing that spot on the 40m band and guarding it like a pack of rabid jackals. The is/was a similar disgrace to amateur radio that convened regularly on 20m at 14.313. They could make you angry, sick, and almost ashamed to be associated with them as hams. There was a long running effort to curtail them. Some of them had even had their licenses revoked years ago by the FCC but persisted nonetheless. The ultimate process of levying fines and notices of forfeiture by the FCC can take years and wind up in legal hearings that drag on.
> > > > 
> > > >                 I’ve never known of a case where any federal law enforcement entered a hams property and took equipment or put anyone under arrest. While annoying to us and a black mark on our hobby, the FCC, FBI, etc. do have more pressing issues to look after.
> > > > 
> > > >                 If you tune around on 80m in the evening you can find similar bands of operators who are perhaps more than one standard deviation from accepted norms.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Several years ago I was operating in the CQWW SSB contest from Costa Rica and started running on 7200. My partner, WB2REM reminded me I was asking for trouble. Since the frequency was clear, I had forgotten about the cesspool that gathers there often. They found me about 15 minutes later but were unable to dislodge me from the pileup I had going working stations in the US and Europe. I only had 100W and an inverted L antenna. I still think of this as a small moral victory. Jim told me later commended me for having the chutzpa and courage to stand my ground and ultimately persevere.
> > > > 
> > > >                 I’m not recommending it as a strategy.
> > > > 
> > > >                 I don’t have a solution to this problem and unfortunately even if they go away, more will crop up.
> > > > 
> > > >                 There is a long history of other notable incursions and violations on the Ham bands and I’m sure many members have stories that they remember.
> > > > 
> > > >                 73,
> > > >                 Bob, KE2D
> > > > 
> > > >                 Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > >                     > > > > > On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:35 AM, MARK WALTERS <xwaltersx at comcast.net mailto:xwaltersx at comcast.net > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     FYI,
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     There are one or more entities transmitting nearly continuous live or recorded absolutely foul/vile/racist/homophobic/pedaphilic transmissions on 7.2 MHz LSB. I have heard them at various times of day for several days now. It is some of the most sickening language I have ever heard, much less on Amateur Radio. The content varies and sometimes seems almost clean/normal but if you listen long enough, it turns absolutely worst you could ever imagine. Some of the transmissions sometimes sound as if they might be some kind of bleed over from a radio station but I cant imagine this sort of language/content is legal on any type of station or transmission. Sometime they also play recorded music, also foul in nature, as well which is also illegal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     If you are going to tune in, brace yourself, it's a filthy disgrace!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     There seem to be a few folks that are trying to take action but the power level of the offending station/stations generally overpowers them and has even recorded their voice reprimands and played them back over the air continuously. They are producing 40dB + at my location. They have been reportedly transmitting from the southeastern area of the US.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     >>> Does anyone know how to contact the FCC and/or appropriate authorities to have them find the source of these transmissions and get them off the air immediately?
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