From wa9wsj at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 18:44:01 2020 From: wa9wsj at yahoo.com (Tom WA9WSJ) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SixClub] Idaho 6 meter beacon References: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> Hello All, Idaho, (Boise), now has its first 6 meter beacon! DN13up. 50.072 mhz. 6 watts to a squalo antenna. If I find an inexpensive, (kit), amp, I might increase the power. It transmits a 70 second message then a 60 second delay. I converted a Regency HR-6 rig, using an SiT8008B programmable oscillator instead of a crazy expensive crystal! 73, Tom WA9WSJ From bill at hsmicrowave.com Wed Aug 19 21:07:26 2020 From: bill at hsmicrowave.com (bill) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:07:26 -0700 Subject: [SixClub] Idaho 6 meter beacon In-Reply-To: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, Congratulations getting the beacon up. I'll add it to my list and listen for it. A question. Is the "60 delay" dead air or a carrier. I would hope a carrier. Regards...Bill - N6GHz On 8/19/2020 3:45:30 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: Hello All, Idaho, (Boise), now has its first 6 meter beacon! DN13up. 50.072 mhz. 6 watts to a squalo antenna. If I find an inexpensive, (kit), amp, I might increase the power. It transmits a 70 second message then a 60 second delay. I converted a Regency HR-6 rig, using an SiT8008B programmable oscillator instead of a crazy expensive crystal! 73, Tom WA9WSJ ______________________________________________________________ SixClub mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wa9wsj at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 22:25:03 2020 From: wa9wsj at yahoo.com (Tom WA9WSJ) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 02:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SixClub] Idaho 6 meter beacon In-Reply-To: References: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <508290504.3886866.1597890303208@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bill, I'm using the 60 seconds as a 'no transmit', standby time. To help cool down the final heat sink. Since you mention it, I can see the value in a carrier for propagation observation. During my testing upon long key downs, it got pretty warm, so that's why I added the standby delay.I'm thinking about maybe using a micor PA as an amp to get it up to 30 watts. If I get that going, I'll certainly have an overkill heat sink with a sizable fan to help. And of course reduce the exciters power level which will help cool also. My current situation is that the system is in a shed with no extra cooling, so I have to be careful about the ambient heat. With the shed ambient temp at 88, the xmitt temp is 94, with a fan on the final heat sink. Tomorrow during the heat of the day, I'll keep an eye on it all. Tom? On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 07:07:35 PM MDT, bill wrote: Hi Tom,Congratulations getting the beacon up. I'll add it to my list and listen for it. A question. Is the "60 delay" dead air or a carrier. I would hope a carrier.Regards...Bill - N6GHz On 8/19/2020 3:45:30 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: Hello All, Idaho, (Boise), now has its first 6 meter beacon! DN13up. 50.072 mhz. 6 watts to a squalo antenna. If I find an inexpensive, (kit), amp, I might increase the power. It transmits a 70 second message then a 60 second delay. I converted a Regency HR-6 rig, using an SiT8008B programmable oscillator instead of a crazy expensive crystal! 73, Tom WA9WSJ ______________________________________________________________ SixClub mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From TwelveVDC at aol.com Thu Aug 20 00:14:32 2020 From: TwelveVDC at aol.com (TwelveVDC at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:14:32 -0400 Subject: [SixClub] Idaho 6 meter beacon In-Reply-To: <508290504.3886866.1597890303208@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> <508290504.3886866.1597890303208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6E99BE06-148B-47CD-A833-1A7A1CF0E973@aol.com> Hi, Tom. Instead of dead air, you might consider twenty or thirty dits across those 60 seconds. At only 2 or 3 seconds apart, the duty cycle is still extremely low, and captures a listeners attention that a message is coming he might otherwise miss altogether during a long, silent pause and tune away. At a recommended 13wpm +/-, you should easily get a few V?s, your call, and 6-digit grid square and power level, etc. in well under 30 seconds. Good luck! A 6m beacon in Idaho will be useful. Oh, and order QSL Cards and start a dedicated logbook because the reports WILL be coming in. Mine?s been operating on 50.075 @ only 2?W for 30+ years and I?ve logged thousands of reports. (Best DX is still JA.) Vy 73 es GL! PeteTheGreek - NL7XM/B FN20ip PA > On Aug 19, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: > > Hi Bill, > I'm using the 60 seconds as a 'no transmit', standby time. To help cool down the final heat sink. Since you mention it, I can see the value in a carrier for propagation observation. During my testing upon long key downs, it got pretty warm, so that's why I added the standby delay.I'm thinking about maybe using a micor PA as an amp to get it up to 30 watts. If I get that going, I'll certainly have an overkill heat sink with a sizable fan to help. And of course reduce the exciters power level which will help cool also. > My current situation is that the system is in a shed with no extra cooling, so I have to be careful about the ambient heat. With the shed ambient temp at 88, the xmitt temp is 94, with a fan on the final heat sink. Tomorrow during the heat of the day, I'll keep an eye on it all. > Tom > > On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 07:07:35 PM MDT, bill wrote: > > Hi Tom,Congratulations getting the beacon up. I'll add it to my list and listen for it. A question. Is the "60 delay" dead air or a carrier. I would hope a carrier.Regards...Bill - N6GHz > > > On 8/19/2020 3:45:30 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: > Hello All, > Idaho, (Boise), now has its first 6 meter beacon! > DN13up. 50.072 mhz. 6 watts to a squalo antenna. If I find an inexpensive, (kit), amp, I might increase the power. > It transmits a 70 second message then a 60 second delay. > I converted a Regency HR-6 rig, using an SiT8008B programmable oscillator instead of a crazy expensive crystal! > 73, > Tom WA9WSJ > ______________________________________________________________ > SixClub mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > SixClub mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wa9wsj at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 00:42:33 2020 From: wa9wsj at yahoo.com (Tom WA9WSJ) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SixClub] Idaho 6 meter beacon In-Reply-To: <6E99BE06-148B-47CD-A833-1A7A1CF0E973@aol.com> References: <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1670184614.3814485.1597877041097@mail.yahoo.com> <508290504.3886866.1597890303208@mail.yahoo.com> <6E99BE06-148B-47CD-A833-1A7A1CF0E973@aol.com> Message-ID: <1982839645.3915649.1597898553768@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Pete, Thanks for the suggestion! I like the idea of the dits. It certainly would indicate an impending message. I think I'll just have to add that! :) With good ideas like this, I can see this will be an ongoing development for a while. :) Tnx, 73 Tom On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 10:14:59 PM MDT, TwelveVDC--- via SixClub wrote: Hi, Tom. Instead of dead air, you might consider twenty or thirty dits across those 60 seconds. At only 2 or 3 seconds apart, the duty cycle is still extremely low, and captures a listeners attention that a message is coming he might otherwise miss altogether during a long, silent pause and tune away. At a recommended 13wpm +/-, you should easily get a few V?s, your call, and 6-digit grid square and power level, etc. in well under 30 seconds. Good luck! A 6m beacon in Idaho will be useful. Oh, and order QSL Cards and start a dedicated logbook because the reports WILL be coming in. Mine?s been operating on 50.075 @ only 2?W for 30+ years and I?ve logged thousands of reports. (Best DX is still JA.) Vy 73 es GL! PeteTheGreek - NL7XM/B FN20ip PA > On Aug 19, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: > > Hi Bill, > I'm using the 60 seconds as a 'no transmit', standby time. To help cool down the final heat sink. Since you mention it, I can see the value in a carrier for propagation observation. During my testing upon long key downs, it got pretty warm, so that's why I added the standby delay.I'm thinking about maybe using a micor PA as an amp to get it up to 30 watts. If I get that going, I'll certainly have an overkill heat sink with a sizable fan to help. And of course reduce the exciters power level which will help cool also. > My current situation is that the system is in a shed with no extra cooling, so I have to be careful about the ambient heat. With the shed ambient temp at 88, the xmitt temp is 94, with a fan on the final heat sink. Tomorrow during the heat of the day, I'll keep an eye on it all. > Tom > >? On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 07:07:35 PM MDT, bill wrote:? > > Hi Tom,Congratulations getting the beacon up. I'll add it to my list and listen for it. A question. Is the "60 delay" dead air or a carrier. I would hope a carrier.Regards...Bill - N6GHz > > > On 8/19/2020 3:45:30 PM, Tom WA9WSJ via SixClub wrote: > Hello All, > Idaho, (Boise), now has its first 6 meter beacon! > DN13up. 50.072 mhz. 6 watts to a squalo antenna. If I find an inexpensive, (kit), amp, I might increase the power. > It transmits a 70 second message then a 60 second delay. > I converted a Regency HR-6 rig, using an SiT8008B programmable oscillator instead of a crazy expensive crystal! > 73, > Tom WA9WSJ > ______________________________________________________________ > SixClub mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > SixClub mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ SixClub mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From MZFB at aol.com Sun Aug 23 13:17:24 2020 From: MZFB at aol.com (mike christie) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:17:24 -0400 Subject: [SixClub] 6 meter beacon References: <000901d67971$5cc24830$1646d890$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901d67971$5cc24830$1646d890$@aol.com> Hi Tom (WA9WSJ) Nice to hear about your beacon I will take a listen for it here in Va. I'm curious about the SiT8008B programmable oscillator. Can you give some details on this? Incidentally my first 6 meter FM rig was an HR 6 back in the 80's I sold it and then bought it back a few years later and still have it. I 'm running a 6 meter repeater here in Va on 51.86. Mike W1ZFB From wa9wsj at yahoo.com Sun Aug 23 14:58:52 2020 From: wa9wsj at yahoo.com (Tom WA9WSJ) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SixClub] 6 meter beacon In-Reply-To: <000901d67971$5cc24830$1646d890$@aol.com> References: <000901d67971$5cc24830$1646d890$.ref@aol.com> <000901d67971$5cc24830$1646d890$@aol.com> Message-ID: <202524923.5153377.1598209132111@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mike, Thanks! This is something that I've been wanting to do for some time and finally I got it together. The first thing I would suggest is get the data sheet for that IC. You'll see that it is very small, surface mount.I used to work at a place that uses them for wild-life tracking bird transmitters, so they have the programmer, which is expensive.They also had an old pc board that they mounted it to for me. That way I could attach power, (3 volts), and had access to its output pin.According to the hr-6 manual, the output frequency is f/6 = the fundamental freq. That is what I had it programmed to. On the hr-6 schematic you'll see that there is a coil from the output of the crystal oscillator to the input of that secret IC. I had to disconnect that coil at the crystal oscillator end and attach the new oscillators output to that coil. I also disconnected the mic stage so no fm'ing could occur.Then go through the stages and tune it up. I used an sdr receiver to get it as close as I could and then took it to a friend who has an HP station monitor and did the final adjustments. I used an arduino chip for the timing and keying. Somewhere after most of the stages and before the finals, I cut the circuit and connected in a to-3 pnp transistor for the power keying. I disconnected power to the rcvr and just jumpered the relay so the output was constantly wired to the antenna port. It only outputs 6 watts so I think the final is weak. Another gent offered to send m an amp and I'm waiting to hear more from him about that. GL 73Tom On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 11:21:17 AM MDT, mike christie via SixClub wrote: Hi Tom (WA9WSJ) Nice to hear about your beacon I will take a listen for it here in Va. I'm curious about the SiT8008B programmable oscillator. Can you give some details on this? Incidentally my first 6 meter FM rig was an HR 6 back in the 80's I sold it and then bought it back a few years later and still have it. I 'm running a 6 meter repeater here in Va on 51.86. Mike W1ZFB ______________________________________________________________ SixClub mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sixclub Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:SixClub at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html