[SixClub] Understanding SIX [Was: Grids]

Larry Brown dogsnradios at att.net
Sat Jan 22 22:20:45 EST 2011


Roger I'll have to confess to a bit of "tongue-in-cheek" when I wrote that,but every Sunday morning I do hear W8IF for a couple of hour as he works the band. I've never made contact with him but i sure do hear him....LOUD and CLEAR. And before someone gets the idea that I have "big-gun envy"........I probably do! LOL! But I still really enjoy working stations with <10watts when the band does open.

Larry

On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:56 PM, K8RI (Roger on six) wrote:

> On 1/22/2011 9:31 PM, Larry Brown wrote:
>> You nailed it Doc!  Us little guys (100 watts max and a home-brew dipole,halo or Moxon) have to wait for the openings to come to us. Guys like W8IF up in Ohio just crank it up and wake up the area they want. On another note....you guys keep talking all this "digital" stuff,you're gonna force me to buy another computer and find out what the fuss is about!
> If the band isn't open, it really doesn't mater how high the antenna or 
> how much power you run except for extended ground wave and Aurora. Power 
> plus antenna gain is important when working aurora where you are working 
> stations (distorted CW signals or SSB that is almost impossible to 
> understand) that are the same strength as the background noise.  All you 
> hear is a change in the noise. When signals are that weak and distorted, 
> power and antennas become very important.
> 
> The legal limit and a 7L Yagi at 115 feet do not open the band! <:-)) 
> Even a CY156 running full bore would not open the band, but it would 
> certainly find the weak spots in the antenna system. <:-)) OTOH under 
> poor conditions the legal limit and a big antenna do make a tremendous 
> difference as they do in a "pile up", but poor conditions are far 
> different than a closed band.  I don't know any one who runs a so called 
> Kalifornia Killowatt on six, but it would take one to work much over 150 
> miles when the band isn't open.
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
> 
>> Larry
>> kg4zar
>> EM78hp
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:02 PM, doc at kd4e.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Unless you have a big tower, big beam (preferably stacked beams),
>>> a tower-mount RX pre-amp, and a big amplifier (preferably full-legal)
>>> you are at the mercy of generally-unpredictable propagation.
>>> 
>>> The big-guns can almost create their own big-gun to big-gun prop!
>>> (Oh, are we allowed to say "big-gun" any more?  Sorry, my bad.)
>>> 
>>> This means that 6M is either open or not, alive or not ... well,
>>> regionally, that is.
>>> 
>>> There may be an East-West opening, a North-South opening, and a
>>> whole lot of other regional and directional openings ... and
>>> the opening will often move, making it even more challenging!
>>> 
>>> 6M digital modes appear to be somewhat rare and in need of a lot
>>> of promotion and perhaps some networking so that digital modes
>>> are in-use during the leading and trailing edges of band openings
>>> where SSB is unusable.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps if there were a system of regular local digital NETS then
>>> 6M ops would be set up and ready to observe and pounce on new
>>> regional openings.
>>> 
>>>> I understand and can read a band chart..... what I was really asking,
>>>> where might anybody on this list be congregating.  That was the main
>>>> intention of the message. :)
>>>> 
>>>> So far as I type this, I only have 3 contacts.  6 meters is quiet as
>>>> hell. So is 2m (ssb and fm simplex portions) and also 70cm (ssb and
>>>> fm simplex portions.)   As quiet as a ghost town around here in
>>>> Michigan.
>>>> 
>>>> Ryan KB8RCR
>>> -- 
>>> 
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