[SixClub] SixClub Digest, Vol 80, Issue 12

Sun Dec 19 20:10:17 EST 2010

DOUG
I have the same set up but use a ft857d, no interface, I just run a
cable from the data connector to the pc, a lot less expensive and use
the FREE soundcard programs.

Try sstv from mmsstv <free>, and try on 10132...mode mp73n..must be
narrow on 30 meters.

..................................
Six meters
I had an antenna up last few years but it was horrible to tune it was
for 10 meters<delta loop> so could only run about 15 watts and made a
handful of psk31 contacts on 6.
Will be back on again when my new 6 mtr antenna arrives ..
Will be running  psk and rtty agn.

73
POB/K8LEN.....

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>    3. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (N8WWM EN81)
>    4. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (doc at kd4e.com)
>    5. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (doc at kd4e.com)
>    6. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW)
>    7. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (Chris Boone)
>    8. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (Pete)
>    9. Re: PSK31 on 50.290? (doc at kd4e.com)
>   10. PSK31 on 50.290? (Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:16:23 -0500
> From: "doc at kd4e.com" <doc at kd4e.com>
> Subject: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: World Wide Six Meter Club <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
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> Is it correct that PSK31 is most commonly on 50.290?
>
> Is that the most common digital mode on 6M?
>
> Is there enough activity there that monitoring for PSK31
> activity may flag an opening?
>
> I am really new to digital modes an have already been
> impressed with the weak-signal capabilities of PSK31!
>
> --
>
> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:09:44 -0600
> From: "Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW" <joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: <doc at kd4e.com>,	"World Wide Six Meter Club"
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> YES  RTTY  50.280
>
>                   Joey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <doc at kd4e.com>
> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
>
>
>> Is it correct that PSK31 is most commonly on 50.290?
>>
>> Is that the most common digital mode on 6M?
>>
>> Is there enough activity there that monitoring for PSK31
>> activity may flag an opening?
>>
>> I am really new to digital modes an have already been
>> impressed with the weak-signal capabilities of PSK31!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
>> http://kd4e.com
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> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:10:52 GMT
> From: "N8WWM EN81" <fiftymegs at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: doc at kd4e.com,	 sixclub at mailman.qth.net
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> Doc,
> I have done PSK31 on 290 with great results. Several q's that made up my
> VUCC were on PSK31.
> 73 Doug
>
> Hearing is a physical process....listening is a mental process
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:13:43 -0500
> From: "doc at kd4e.com" <doc at kd4e.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: World Wide Six Meter Club <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
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> How do RTTY and PSK31 compare re. weak signal, QRN, QRM,
> and QSB handling?
>
>> YES  RTTY  50.280
>>
>> Joey
>>
>>> Is it correct that PSK31 is most commonly on 50.290?
>>>
>>> Is that the most common digital mode on 6M?
>>>
>>> Is there enough activity there that monitoring for PSK31
>>> activity may flag an opening?
>>>
>>> I am really new to digital modes an have already been
>>> impressed with the weak-signal capabilities of PSK31!
>
> --
>
> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
> http://kd4e.com
> Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
> Defend free speech or lose your freedom.
> I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:18:25 -0500
> From: "doc at kd4e.com" <doc at kd4e.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: sixclub at mailman.qth.net
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>
> Do you hear PSK31 before and after SSB on 6m band openings?
>
> I made my first two PSK31 contacts last night on 40M.  I am
> waiting on a cable for proper rig control, and my skills are
> primitive, but it's good to have another mode available.
>
> I am using Linux, fldigi, a RIGblaster Plug & Play interface,
> and my FT-857D rig.
>
> I have an Icom IC-735 on the bench that will probably become
> a dedicated HF digital mode rig - once the gremlins have been
> evicted!
>
> SSTV is next.
>
>> I have done PSK31 on 290 with great results. Several q's that made up
>> my VUCC were on PSK31.
>>
>> 73 Doug
>>
>> Hearing is a physical process....listening is a mental process
>
> --
>
> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
> http://kd4e.com
> Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
> Defend free speech or lose your freedom.
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:34:20 -0600
> From: "Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW" <joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: <doc at kd4e.com>,	"World Wide Six Meter Club"
> 	<sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
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> NO Doc,
>
>  not many people DO these modes on 6 meters, I wish more would ! there are a
> FEW of us, Most of them that do them I have had the pleasure of working
> already.
>
>
>             Joey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <doc at kd4e.com>
> To: <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
>
>
>> Do you hear PSK31 before and after SSB on 6m band openings?
>>
>> I made my first two PSK31 contacts last night on 40M.  I am
>> waiting on a cable for proper rig control, and my skills are
>> primitive, but it's good to have another mode available.
>>
>> I am using Linux, fldigi, a RIGblaster Plug & Play interface,
>> and my FT-857D rig.
>>
>> I have an Icom IC-735 on the bench that will probably become
>> a dedicated HF digital mode rig - once the gremlins have been
>> evicted!
>>
>> SSTV is next.
>>
>>> I have done PSK31 on 290 with great results. Several q's that made up
>>> my VUCC were on PSK31.
>>>
>>> 73 Doug
>>>
>>> Hearing is a physical process....listening is a mental process
>>
>> --
>>
>> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
>> http://kd4e.com
>> Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
>> Defend free speech or lose your freedom.
>> I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:38:23 -0600
> From: "Chris Boone" <Cboone at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: "'World Wide Six Meter Club'" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
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>
> PSK31 is known as a "very weak signal" mode....a lot of times, it can copy
> at or below the noise floor.. RTTY? Not really...PSK31 is NOT an error
> correcting mode (also RTTY is not) so once your transmit, you will NOT
> retransmit it and anything lost in reception is gone....Other digital modes
> are error correcting.
>
> its a shame the rules do not allow digital below 50.100 in the US....would
> make more sense to have it in the CW portion than the SSB voice range
>
> Chris
> WB5ITT
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  How do RTTY and PSK31 compare re. weak signal, QRN, QRM,
>> and QSB handling?
>>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:43:14 -0500
> From: Pete <TwelveVDC at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: World Wide Six Meter Club <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <94747FC3-F742-4A17-8DD7-7FBCD4D07CA7 at aol.com>
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> <Cboone at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> PSK31 is known as a "very weak signal" mode....a lot of times, it can copy
>> at or below the noise floor..
>   True. JT65 is even better.
>> RTTY? Not really...
>   True.
>> PSK31 is NOT an error correcting mode (also RTTY is not) so once your
>> transmit, you will NOT
>> retransmit it and anything lost in reception is gone
>   True, but so what. You need repeats almost all the time on every other
> mode, too until you fill it all in.
>> ....Other digital modes are error correcting.
>   Only packet and (FEC) Pactor modes self correct. There are many, MANY
> digital modes now, and NONE of them do. But that doesn't keep 'em from being
> incredibly efficient and useful.
>> its a shame the rules do not allow digital below 50.100 in the US....
>   CW IS the ORIGINAL digital mode.
>> would make more sense to have it in the CW portion than the SSB voice
>> range
>   Uh, oh. Now you've gone and done it... Not sure anyone would agree with
> you on that one, Chris; not on 6m, anyway.
>>
>
> -Pete / NL7XM
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:45:11 -0500
> From: "doc at kd4e.com" <doc at kd4e.com>
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: World Wide Six Meter Club <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <4D0EA717.8070900 at kd4e.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I wonder if we tried a PSK31 NET on a schedule we might discover some
> marginal propagation that CW and SSB are missing?
>
> OR ...
>
> I am guessing that digital mode software can be set to beacon CQ's,
> pause to listen, then auto-respond?
>
> If that is correct then we could look at the saved log to see when the
> propagation was open.
>
>> PSK31 is known as a "very weak signal" mode....a lot of times, it can copy
>> at or below the noise floor.. RTTY? Not really...PSK31 is NOT an error
>> correcting mode (also RTTY is not) so once your transmit, you will NOT
>> retransmit it and anything lost in reception is gone....Other digital
>> modes
>> are error correcting.
>>
>> its a shame the rules do not allow digital below 50.100 in the US....would
>> make more sense to have it in the CW portion than the SSB voice range
>>
>> Chris
>> WB5ITT
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>   How do RTTY and PSK31 compare re. weak signal, QRN, QRM,
>>> and QSB handling?
>
> --
>
> Merry CHRISTmas & 73, doc, KD4E
> http://kd4e.com
> Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
> Defend free speech or lose your freedom.
> I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:48:50 -0600
> From: "Richard J. Fiero II  W5TFW" <joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <85F24FCFEEC546FC8323437BD9BF7562 at laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> we are ALl entitled to our own opinions, My personal opinion, ( not that of
> the club ) is that if you cant hear it with your own ear it shouldnt  COUNT
> !.
>
>  Like I said thats MY opinion.
>
>
>          Joey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete" <TwelveVDC at aol.com>
> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] PSK31 on 50.290?
>
>
>> <Cboone at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> PSK31 is known as a "very weak signal" mode....a lot of times, it can
>>> copy at or below the noise floor..
>>  True. JT65 is even better.
>>> RTTY? Not really...
>>  True.
>>> PSK31 is NOT an error correcting mode (also RTTY is not) so once your
>>> transmit, you will NOT
>>> retransmit it and anything lost in reception is gone
>>  True, but so what. You need repeats almost all the time on every other
>> mode, too until you fill it all in.
>>> ....Other digital modes are error correcting.
>>  Only packet and (FEC) Pactor modes self correct. There are many, MANY
>> digital modes now, and NONE of them do. But that doesn't keep 'em from
>> being incredibly efficient and useful.
>>> its a shame the rules do not allow digital below 50.100 in the US....
>>  CW IS the ORIGINAL digital mode.
>>> would make more sense to have it in the CW portion than the SSB voice
>>> range
>>  Uh, oh. Now you've gone and done it... Not sure anyone would agree with
>> you on that one, Chris; not on 6m, anyway.
>>>
>>
>> -Pete / NL7XM
>>
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