[SixClub] band is open

Sun Nov 15 09:06:17 EST 2009

Well said Roger,

sometimes there just is no good answer.

                                                  Joey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <50MHz at rogerhalstead.com>
To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SixClub] band is open

>
>
> Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW wrote:
>> this is true,.........
>>
>>  BUt I was going to let him KNOW the band was open and hope he
>> moved,........ but he never stopped transmitting he had a LONG
>> logbook.....
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly at mchsi.com>
>> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] band is open
>>
>>
>>
>>> An OO wouldn't do much good, I got one right here and they don't care if
>>> someone is chatting on the calling frequency as long as they aren't 
>>> doing
>>> anything illegal.
>>>
>>>
> Which is the approach he/she is supposed to take. After all the calling
> frequencies (which are a good idea) are only a "gentleman's agreement".
>
> Activity on the calling frequency is a good thing. So are local rag
> chews or we'd never know the band was open if we're all listening and no
> one is transmitting.  True I have a spectrum scope that is very
> sensitive and a great instrument on virtually all openings except aurora
> that is just at the noise level, that is when I'm sitting right there
> watching.  Now that's difficult to do at the peak of the sunspot cycle,
> let alone when openings may be months apart.  I used to say there was
> nothing more boring and brainless than cultivating beans the first time
> through, but I think watching a spectrum scope on 6-meters, waiting for
> a band opening has it beat.
>
> Now I often have the rig listening on six while working in the shop, but
> the spectrum scope does nothing for me there except tell me I missed
> something unless I happen to walk up at the moment some one transmits.
> OTOH if they transmit on 50.125 I'll hear them. As the band gets busy
> the contacts start spreading out from the calling frequency which is a
> natural progression.  Still there are those who just park on 50.125 and
> call and no few times have I found moving up 10 will result in a quiet
> spot and no answers.  It appears that every one at that particular
> moment is only listening (with many transmitting) on dot 125.  Of course
> there is always some one who says up 50 or 100. You move, answer them,
> they get a couple more calls and then nada. They are back to the fishing
> hole.  This is an improvement, but it still uses the calling frequency,
> just less often.
>
>
>>> Locally we always chat on .125 unless the band is open, then we move up.
>>> And when it comes to six I can understand why it happens, everyone hangs
>>> around the calling frequency, move off and sometimes you can call cq 
>>> until
>>> your voice goes but all the activity is still on the calling frequency.
>>> Not
>>> saying its right, but that's what happens.
>>>
> It's pretty much true on virtually all VHF and UHF calling frequencies,
> but I think at least part of the problem is we has far too many
> frequencies that are designated as being specific to some kind of
> activity.  When you look at it most of the bands are broken into many
> small pieces that are far too small to coexist peacefully during band
> openings and particularly for DX or contests.  Add to that split
> frequency operation, or even cross band and many of those "gentleman's
> agreements" may sound good and logical, but fail in the real world. Once
> any of us start ignoring one or two of them it just follows all but a
> few will be ignored in general and all will be ignored by a few.  How
> many of us know all of the recommended frequencies and modes of
> operation for each of the bands we operate.  I keep a chart to keep me
> legal, but in general I know only the most used portions of the band
> plans and I have to review them often just to remember the calling
> frequencies for CW, SSB, and DX on each band.  If you do a lot of band
> hoping there are just too many to remember or keep track of even with
> charts.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>>> It happens on 2m SSB as well all the time.  The guys up around 
>>> Minneapolis
>>> hang on .200 to ragchew when the band is open.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Bill Bailey, KG4NZR" <kg4nzr at cfl.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:00 AM
>>> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] band is open
>>>
>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <joeyw5tfw at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:51 AM
>>>> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] band is open
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> LMAO !
>>>>>
>>>>> I just hope it wasnt a member of ths club !    :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would have sent him a pink slip !   ha ha ha !
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing in EL98.  Regardless of his membership, or lack thereof, he 
>>>> needs
>>>> a
>>>> pink slip.  Where's the OO when you really want one?
>>>>
>>>> 73 Bill KG4NZR
>>>>
>>>>
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