[SixClub] Forum topics

Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW w5tfw at cox.net
Sun May 10 09:24:19 EDT 2009


NOT a Problem,.... Gotta remember where I PUT them !

KB0NLY wrote:
> I can burn them, that's for sure!  Might cost you a bit of beer money...  HI 
> HI
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <w5tfw at cox.net>
> To: "World Wide Six Meter Club" <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics
> 
> 
>> SCOTT !
>>
>>
>>  as soon as I have the time !
>>
>>  I have about 6 of those e proms that NEED to be burnt !
>>
>>   Ill send them to YOU !
>>
>>                                              :-)
>>
>> KB0NLY wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> He was asking about the Syntor X9000, totally different beast...
>>>
>>> The X9000 is RIB and RSS programmings, not a Sys 90 system, and not a 
>>> memory
>>> module.  However, there is plenty of aftermarket software that other
>>> enterprising folks designed for programming the EEprom in the Syntor X.
>>>
>>> As a matter of fact i have a UHF repeater here that i help maintain that 
>>> i
>>> built from a pair of Syntor X's, just pull the memory module, open it, 
>>> pull
>>> EEprom and erase and burn a new image to using my Willem programmer and 
>>> toss
>>> it back together and its on the air.  No fuss, just a little time 
>>> tinkering.
>>> I use a program i found on the net that a couple hams wrote to generate a
>>> .bin file with the frequency info, aka the codeplug, to burn to the 
>>> EEprom.
>>>
>>> I can program an X9K in about 10-20 minutes, just depends on how many
>>> channels, aka modes, that you want in the radio.  I can upgrade them from 
>>> 32
>>> to 64, or 128 modes as well just by swapping chips.
>>>
>>> The programming cable for the X9K is a little tough to find as it uses a 
>>> "T"
>>> cable, its a passthrough connector that goes between the control cable 
>>> and
>>> the radio.  I don't bother using that setup anymore and just add a 
>>> pigtail
>>> with a DB9 to the control cable, that way all i need is a DB25 to DB9 
>>> cable
>>> from my RIB to program it.
>>>
>>> However!!  The only drawback to the X9K and its software is needing an 
>>> OLD
>>> and SLOW computer as it gets fussy when you get too fast.  Too fast being
>>> 25Mhz or more!  My last programming laptop died and my "new" one running 
>>> at
>>> 50Mhz doesn't like to cooperate with the X9K all the time, but if i turn 
>>> off
>>> the Turbo and run it at 25Mhz i can usually get it to work unless i get a
>>> radio with old firmware and slow chips.  The later models had faster 
>>> access
>>> times on the EEproms and they work marginally better, also the radio 
>>> boots a
>>> bit faster.
>>>
>>> Anyway, i used to have a ton of X9K's and i'm pretty familiar with them. 
>>> At
>>> one time i had a stack of lowband, vhf, and uhf in the mobile, along with
>>> another stack in the shack for vhf and uhf.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris Boone" <Cboone at earthlink.net>
>>> To: <doc at kd4e.com>; "'World Wide Six Meter Club'" 
>>> <sixclub at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doc
>>>> In answer to your questions below:
>>>>
>>>> The Syntor will cover 10 and 6 quite well and with NO problems; yes the
>>>> parts will eventually start to get hard to replace...with the mutli 
>>>> System
>>>> 90 head, you can have a lot of channels programmed...Never dealt with 
>>>> the
>>>> Kenwood BUT it probably WONT cover 29-54 like the Motorola will...and 
>>>> both
>>>> are limited to a max number of channels..
>>>> HOWEVER, Motorola software to reprogram is a BEAR to get ahold of...a
>>>> friend
>>>> of mine has two of them...and we have looked trying to find someone who
>>>> can
>>>> reprogram the modules to the freqs he wants..
>>>>
>>>> PERSONALLY, I suggest getting two Midland Syntech IIs..one on 10 (an A
>>>> Range
>>>> 70-05xxA model) and one for 6 (70-05xxC model)....that OR an XTR on 10 
>>>> and
>>>> the STII on 6 (XTR does 22 or 99 channel which is overkill on 10 FM; the
>>>> STII does 320 channels!!!)..EASIER to program (Software is in public
>>>> domain)
>>>> and there is a lot of neat things you can do...PLUS the NOISE BLANKER in
>>>> the
>>>> Midlands runs rings around the Motorola's "Extender"....and I love the
>>>> built
>>>> in optional crossband rptr in the STII...I have several that crossband 
>>>> to
>>>> UHF....and some with VHF crossband (2w synthesized HTs in the crossband
>>>> package...and its INSIDE the main radio...overall MUCH smaller than a
>>>> Syntor)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still looking for the SS32s...found two TS32...but that's too big for 
>>>> your
>>>> needs...I THINK I know where the Selectone encoders are...which would be 
>>>> a
>>>> perfect fit in an HT...Let ya know Monday...my fuel pump went out today 
>>>> on
>>>> my Blazer and I have to drop the gas tank to replace it..ARG there goes
>>>> another $300 I wanted to spend on radios!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> WB5ITT
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:sixclub-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kd4e
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:37 PM
>>>> To: World Wide Six Meter Club
>>>> Subject: Re: [SixClub] Forum topics
>>>>
>>>> Thank the Good Lord that electrons do not transfer odors!
>>>>
>>>> If by Forum you mean this list then I have one that I have
>>>> raised on another 6M forum ...
>>>>
>>>> As there any reason to prefer the Motorola Syntor 9000
>>>> VHF Low Band 28-54 MHz,100 Watt Model #T99VX+006W or
>>>> the Kenwood TK-6110-K2 35-50mhz?
>>>>
>>>> Questions:  Are their proprietary parts in the Motorola that
>>>> given its age may fail and be unobtanium?  Is the software to
>>>> reprogram the Motorola any more readily available than the
>>>> Kenwood?  Has anyone successfully reprogrammed and tweaked
>>>> the Kenwood for both 6 & 10M?
>>>>
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