[SignalOne] 8072

Don Merz n3rht at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 30 14:03:15 EST 2017


 This all sounds like what I have read The gassy condition occurring when transmitting tubes sit unused for long periods is, I think, pretty much universal across all transmitting tube types. The conventional wisdom seems to say that all transmitting tubes that have been sitting unused for long periods should be run with filament voltage only to try to burn off the gas. I have seen recommendations to run the tubes both above and below the rated filament voltage. Does any of it work? Can anyone say for sure? 
This is getting to be an issue like whether or not CDs will contain any readable data in 50 years...
73, Don Merz, N3RHT

    On Saturday, December 30, 2017, 10:58:33 AM EST, EDWARD SCHUMACHER via SignalOne <signalone at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  
 
 

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I agree that it is very hard with the usual equipment to satisfactorily test any of the higher power transmitting tubes though my old tester will at least emission test up to the 811.That being said, it is somewhat risky in this case in my experience to test by use in the circuit. 

The 8072's were notorious for becoming gassy sitting on the shelf and the problem was so well known that inventories would be cooked before being put into service. That is, plugged in to a bench setup where filament was applied for several hours in the hopes of the getter restoring the tube. A gassy tube can flash letting high voltages get into other circuits with disastrous results as happened with my CX7 with a NOS tube.

There are bench test setups for verifying the gassy condition but I have not yet set one up here because I don't have a circuit yet for the tetrodes. I would at the least go through the cooking procedure as a preventative measure before putting any NOS 8072 in service now. Took me quite a while to locate and repair the damage to my rig but at least it was repairable.
Later inspection of my failed tube showed what seems to be a flashover path externally on one of the ceramic base rings. This was probably the source  of faint popping sounds before the rig quit.
Another weak point of the 8072 was the torquing of the grids which also resulted in shorting hence the need to have the added fuses for screen protection which became a factory add also. However, my rig is still working with what I believe is the original final and that is what I keep ending up with after killing two other 8072's, a rebuilt that had been run too hot and the NOS faulty tube. Hope this helps.
73 ... Ed, WA9GQK


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