[SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
Ora Smith
[email protected]
Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:27:57 -0400
Herschel and Bill,
Herschel is right about my unit. It is not the same as the ones on
Bill's web site. My cabinet is not as tall, and it has the rubber ICOM
feet. I have an ad for the Collins filter add ons for 781's in a
December 1997 QST. This radio has a confusing ancestry!
Ora
W9DJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Herschel McCullough [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]; Ora Smith; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
Opps glad you guys dint take my BIG bet.. Ora look close at Bill's set
picture.. he has a whole series of LEDS and computer function controls
that
your set does not show or seem to have, as well the differences in front
panel heights.. so I can see where you Ora are developing your thinking
of
yours being an early development model.. sans any computer
enhancements.. my
unit and Bill's seem to be alike.. also notice the front riser feet.
yours
seems to have the standard Icom riser scheme while Bill and I have a
bail
looking chrome wire / rod scheme.. but what does surprise me is you "
Ora "
have the Collins filters.. as I recall this was a very late option ,
thus
offered I thought at latter days of Don Rohr's production offering..
And
to confuse things a bit more .. have you seen the 756 that he had
converted.. Anyhow what do you all think ?? mac/mc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Smith" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
> Hi, Herschel
>
> You are the first person who indicated they knew anything about the
Milspec
> 1030C. I wonder how many exist? Four have been accounted for in the
last
> week (a real sea change). Apparently ours are two of six prototypes
built
> for the Marines. How large was the contract you refer to and how many
do
> you think were built under that contract?
>
> We have a ground loop in the mic circuit in one, perhaps due to the
change
> in the microphone plug. The other needs work in the audio stage, and
> haven't dug into it to find out why.
>
> Also, in the second, the digital interface circuitry isn't working
> correctly, in fact a cable inside that radio has been pulled so the
> transceiver doesn't lock up in transmit. Is there a possibilty to
obtain
> copies of the interface schematics? I believe there is a 3rd party
> processor board, and a serial interface board.
>
> Other than that, have had to resolder connections on a power supply
> regulator board. That was tough, because parts are mounted through
the
> board to a heat-sink and there appears to be no easy way to remove the
board
> to expose the printed circuit side.
>
> 73 de Bill, AB6MT/NNN0BIO
> [email protected]
>
> limited pix are at http://www.k6bw.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Herschel McCullough
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
>
>
> well I can help with the manuals.. I have the MilSpec ones.. I am
one of
> those who sent in a 781 and had it converted.. but remembering the
Signal
> One Legacy from the early-mid 70s .. and at the time doing several
large
> contracts for the navy.. I just sent mine in under a contractor repair
order
> and Walla , back she came with all documentation etc.. but FedEx did
do
> some damage, so back she went and came back even better.. and of
course I
> still have it and use it daily. but if I can be of help . I will be
most
> happy to try and help.. mac/mc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Smith" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
>
>
> > Yes, it is an Icom 781 repackged in a Hewlett Packard cabinet with a
> custom
> > front panel. There was someone in New Mexico or Texas that had
acquired
> the
> > Signal One name and was issuing these beasts to the military at
cost+++
> > prices. He advertised on the Internet for a while, offering to take
in
a
> > 781 and for only $4000 return it as a Signal One Milspec 1030C. Our
Navy
> > MARS club has two of them. We tried to get an instruction book from
him,
> > but he wanted $400 for just the book. He offered to repair them on
a 24
> > hour turn around for only $3500 a quarter. When I mentioned we were
just
> a
> > Ham Club, he suggested the Navy would be able to foot the bill.
> >
> > He closed up shop a year or so ago. Just stopped answering the
phone
and
> > pulled the website. But after the first call he wouldn't return
calls
to
> us
> > anyway.
> >
> > We ordered a 781 manual from Icom for $40. It covers most of the
boards.
> A
> > couple of digital interface boards (for externally controlling the
> > transceiver) are not covered by the manual and we don't have any
> information
> > on them. (Does anyone here have any info?)
> >
> > They seem to be good radios if you like Icom design. Big, and lots
of
> > buttons. Both still have minor problems, which haven't been
corrected
> yet.
> > If you have any info, or questions, will be happy to correspond.
> >
> > Bill Smith
> > [email protected]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ora Smith
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:51 AM
> > Subject: [SignalOne] Signal One 1030C (Modified Icom 781)
> >
> >
> > I searched the threads for info on this radio, but didn't find
anything.
> > Can anyone shed light on its history? The unit is marked as a
"Signal
> > One 1030C" and has a Signal One serial number and Signal One logo on
the
> > S meter. It looks like an IC-781 with a light colored front panel,
a
> > Collins mic plug instead of the standard ICOM plug, plus it has a
> > Collins mechanical filter board installed using gold plated
connectors
> > (the board sits on top of the ICOM filters, and includes GAsFET
amps).
> > According to the guy I bought it from it has been modified
internally
> > with upgraded PIN's and different RF output transistors, plus
various
> > other things; however, it remains enough of a 781 to use the 781
service
> > manual on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is NOT the 1030CI ( which I have also seen referred to as a
1030C),
> > which was built into a extended height 781 cabinet. The cabinet is
> > stock ICOM except for the different colored front panel and perhaps
> > different knobs.
> >
> >
> >
> > The fellow who sold it to me said he talked with Don Roehrs who said
> > this radio was one of a batch of 6 produced as prototypes for the
Marine
> > Corps. I doubt that it was done for the USMC, because it is set up
as a
> > ham band radio, i.e., no extended transmit mod and the band
selection
> > labeling and selection is strictly ham.
> >
> >
> >
> > I heard from another source that this rig may have been made by
someone
> > who bought the rights to the Signal One name and was trying to start
a
> > business remanufacturing upgraded IC-781's, but never got past the
> > prototype stage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone shed light on the history of this radio? Whatever it is,
it
> > is a GREAT rig! I have put my OMNI 6 up on the shelf. The Rx is
> > outstanding, and with outboard audio DSP it has become the finest
> > receiver I've ever used. I get good reports, too.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have pictures in case anyone wants to see what it looks like.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks es 73,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ora Smith
> >
> > W9DJ
> >
> >
> >
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