[SFDXA] What Take Off Angles Do DXers Really Need from Vertical Antennas? Gain vs Height
Kai
k.siwiak at ieee.org
Tue Nov 19 10:58:05 EST 2013
A summary of gain versus height for horizontal polarization (H-pol) and vertical
polarization (V-pol) for various ground condition from poor to salt water is
summarized on the SFDXA web site. From the home page http://sfdxa.com click
in the "[Download SFDXA presentations here] "
and then select "Oct 2013 - QRP-Quarterly: Ionospherica-II" for download, then
see Figure 2 which shows the field strength at your location versus height. See
the text for info about how the Figure scales for different arrival angles.
Height make a BIG difference, and the optimum height for vertical pol is
different than for horizontal pol in agreement with the transmit patterns of ac6la,
and H-pol is much less sensitive to ground parameters than V-pol.
73
Kai, KE4PT
On 11/19/2013 10:30 AM, Bill wrote:
> An Antenna Expert Tests it:
>
>>>> Are you really measuring what DXers are really after when comparing
>>>> vertical antennas at different heights above ground and ground mounted.?
>
> Putting aside for the moment the distinction between measuring and modeling, I
> wanted to investigate what VK3QI said about "DX angles" (in this case 10°) vs
> "zero" angle. First thing I did was create an adjustable vertical dipole
> model that also has ground conditions that can be set via a variable. Here's
> the AutoEZ "Variables" sheet showing (to start) the base (variable B) at 20
> ft, the length (variable D) at 35 ft, and the ground type (variable G) as
> "Average".
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDip1.png
>
> With those starting conditions I used the Resonate button to reset the length
> (variable D). After that the length was not changed.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDip2.png
>
> Then I set up a series of test cases with the base at 0.5 ft and with the
> ground characteristics varying through all the non-water choices, from
> Extremely Poor to Very Good, per the EZNEC definitions of such.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDip3.png
>
> Here's an animated gif showing the results. The value for "G" (Ground type
> index) may be seen in the lower right corner.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDipB05.gif
>
> As the ground gets better the gain at 10° gets better (pretty much). Then I
> ran a similar series of test cases with the base of the dipole at 40 ft.
> Again, look in the lower right corner to see the "G" value for any given frame
> of the animation.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDipB40.gif
>
> That was interesting. With the base at 40 ft the gain at 10° gets_worse_ as
> the ground gets better. More of the energy is going into the second (higher)
> lobe. However, note that the outer ring is the same for both these animations
> so you can compare magnitudes as well as pattern shapes. For any given ground
> type the "DX angle" (10°) gain is always higher for the higher dipole. For
> example, here's a comparison for Average ground.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDip4.png
>
> So that seems to address the first point that VK3QI made. Gain at "DX angles"
> (in this case 10°) gets better as the dipole is raised and it doesn't matter
> what the ground conditions are. Now for his point about actual measurements:
>
>>>> Measuring a vertical at another location 5 miles away, but at the same
>>>> relative height is really measuring the ability of the vertical antenna to
>>>> couple to the ground to produce a vertically polarised ground wave.
>
> And that seems to be in regards to page 76 from the K9YC presentation:
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDip5.png
>
> K9YC measured an increase in gain of 9.5 dB as the dipole base was raised from
> 0.5 ft to 40 ft. If both he and the 3 watt transmitter at W6GJB had been
> located on the wheat fields of Kansas that would have been one thing, but they
> are both in the Santa Cruz mountains and I'm betting it's not exactly 5 miles
> of flat ground (as NEC assumes) between them. Hence I'm not sure how to use
> NEC to verify the K9YC measurements since there is no Far Field at an
> elevation of 0°. So I fudged a bit.
>
> Here's an animation with the green dot marker at 1° elevation, not exactly the
> same as equal heights but close. The ground type is fixed at Very Poor per
> K9YC's comments. The dipole base ranges through 0.5, 10, 20, 30, and 40 ft.
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDipFF1.gif
>
> As the base height is raised the gain at 1° increases by about 6.6 dB (from
> -19.34 dBi to -12.72 dBi). That's not identical to the measured increase of
> 9.5 dB but it seems to verify that the gain at "ground level" (almost) should
> increase as the dipole height is increased, which seems to corroborate what
> K9YC measured.
>
> Not sure what any of this proved or didn't prove, just thought I'd share it.
> Here's the model file I used if anyone else would like to play with it. (Note
> that you can't just click on the link to open the model. Save it to your
> computer then open it from within AutoEZ, as explained in Step 3 of the AutoEZ
> Quick Start guide.)
>
> http://ac6la.com/adhoc/VertDipole.weq
>
> This model will work just fine with the free demo version of AutoEZ which you
> can download from here.
>
> http://ac6la.com/autoez.html
>
> Dan, AC6LA
> http://ac6la.com
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> South Florida DX Assoc.
> SFDXA WebSite: http://www.SFDXA.com
> SFDXA Repeater 147.33+ 103.5 Tone
> To Post: mailto:SFDXA at mailman.qth.net
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or Subscribe:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sfdxa
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>
More information about the SFDXA
mailing list