[SFDXA] FW: [Dx-qsl] N1DG's DXpedition Costs powerpoint

[The Romagni's]

Ed 

You bring some great points there, the other thing that cross my mind when I
saw the presentation was, how many of us can actually take off 5 to 6 weeks
from work and family obligation, and take a risk to go to the ends of the
world!

As cost of fuel goes up, the cost of putting an expedition together like
3Y0X will sure go up, and I will predict that eventually some of this rare
ones will be very rare, as not that many few will be able to pull a budget
big enough to travel to some of this places.

Again, this presentation should serve as an eye opener to DX Clubs to
properly educate new and old members, as well as help provide some sort of
assistance when it come to cost to some of this teams.

Steve
W4DTA

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On Behalf Of Ed Callaway
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:19 AM
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For a week now I've been reading comments from people shocked at how
incredibly high DXpedition budgets are, and my level of puzzlement has been
steadily increasing.  When I saw this presentation, my response was, "Wow!
They did 3Y0X for under than $500k!  How'd they do that?!?"

I was under the impression that the budgets for these DXpeditions --
especially the Southern Ocean DXpeditions -- were far higher than it turns
out they are.  **I** certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for
organizing 3Y0X, for example -- a three-year project that included the
five-week lease of an Antarctic-rated vessel with fuel and crew, a
helicopter with fuel and Antarctic-rated pilot, getting tons of
Antarctic-rated shelters, equipment, etc. in a container shipped from NA to
Ushuaia (and stored there until the expedition arrives), getting Iridium
satellite phones (and air time), buying insurance for a Southern Ocean
voyage, etc., not to mention the time and manpower needed to work through
the environmental approval, landing permit and licensing hassles -- if I
were given a budget of $475k.  I would have refused that job assignment
outright, as being impossible on its face.  I'm not sure I would have done
it for twice that amount.

I've always thought 3Y0X was one of the greatest DXpeditions ever organized.
After hearing of its budget, I still do, but now also think that K4UEE and
K0IR should receive some type of travel financial-efficiency Hall-of-Fame
award.  Just amazing.

(And that was the DXpedition with the *largest* budget, I think.  The
*smallest* Southern Ocean DXpedition budget was $160k.  How was that
financial miracle performed?)

Let me turn this question on its head:  How much did the average DXer think
these expeditions cost?  Did people really think a group of 20 could be sent
to a Southern Ocean island for two weeks for less than this?  Or is the
expressed amazement we're hearing now just due to the fact that no one gave
a thought to this issue before?

Ed Callaway, N4II

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of The Romagni's
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:57 AM
To: 'David Novoa, W4DN'; SFDXA at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SFDXA] FW: [Dx-qsl] N1DG's DXpedition Costs powerpoint

The numbers are amazing. We all know that hams can be cheap, but as the
trend continues, you might not see those rare ones come up, as the cost to
put this operation go up, and the average ham only sends $1, and lets be
real, the cost of $1 not longer comes close to cover a stamp/qsl cost and
help for the operation.

This is why back few years ago, we came up with the dxpedition fund, just
remember when you work this guys, that they also have day jobs, and that
some of them have taken leave from their jobs to go to a rare place such as
BS7 or VK0. 

Steve
W4DTA

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On Behalf Of David Novoa, W4DN
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:33 PM
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Fellows:

Don't miss this presentation.
--73,
Dave

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[mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:16 PM
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Subject: [Dx-qsl] N1DG's DXpedition Costs powerpoint

All,
Further to the discussion of DXpedition funding and costs, Don's excellent
PowerPoint presentation from Dayton is up at the NCDXF's main Webpage.

http://www.ncdxf.org/misc/N1DG-DXpeditioncosts-Dayton2012.ppsx



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Peter, W2IRT

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