[Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS

DOUG WHITE dw_skyjockey at msn.com
Fri Nov 8 22:27:43 EST 2024 

Thanks guys. I think Karl has hit the nail on the head. BCD 396T/XT are not P25 Phase II compatible, and that is what AA Co. is using now.

I guess the 396s have served me well for many years. Look like I need to take the plunge to the Uniden SDS100 which is compatible.

Thanks again for your help.

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Odenton, MD
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Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS

The P25 system is the only system on the "air" anymore. The P16 system was taken down a few weeks ago.

Fire is 99.9% in the clear. BC X-Ray is the only encrypted talkgroup used daily. During testing there are a few more encrypted talkgroups but since the switchover, I haven't seen them used. Supposedly the Zone 2 talkgroups will be used to split the county responses up more but so far they aren't used. Zone 4 is training both at the academy and station level training.

All law enforcement is 100% encrypted countywide.

The Events zone is worth plugging in as it has been used weekly since the switchover.

I would love a copy if anyone has one of the talkgroups (fleet map) that are programmed in the county subscriber radios as it would help narrow down my list of unknown talkgroups. Montgomery Fire has their fleet map published online but sadly Anne Arundel doesn't on their website.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 9:23 PM Karl via Scan-DC <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
The problem may lie in the 396xt NOT being Phase II capable. AA is listed as Phase II.




Karl Steudl
2 Pilgrims Ministries/Acts412 Maintenance & Communications
Batt.Chief/Fire Marshal ret.
Ham radio call N8XBD/GMRS call WPXT770

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-------- Original Message --------
On 11/8/24 2:44 PM, DOUG WHITE <dw_skyjockey at msn.com<mailto:dw_skyjockey at msn.com>> wrote:

>  Looking more closely, Radio Reference shows only one AA Co. Fire/EMS TG encrypted (Battalion Chf X-ray).
>
>  So... My problem appears not to be an encryption problem, but something else...
>
>  BTW, all the following show encrypted on Radio Reference for AA Co.
>  AA police, Annapolis Police, Community College Police, sheriff dept and detention center.
>  About half the special event TGs are also encrypted.
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net> <scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> on behalf of DOUG WHITE <DW_SKYJOCKEY at msn.com<mailto:DW_SKYJOCKEY at msn.com>>
>  Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 2:06 PM
>  To: Steve <restonham at gmail.com<mailto:restonham at gmail.com>>
>  Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net> <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>>; Dewey3 <dewey3 at gmail.com<mailto:dewey3 at gmail.com>>
>  Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS
>
>  Hard to believe they would encrypt fire/ems... Never heard of any jurisdiction doing that...
>  dw
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: Steve <restonham at gmail.com<mailto:restonham at gmail.com>>
>  Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 1:41 PM
>  To: DOUG WHITE <dw_skyjockey at msn.com<mailto:dw_skyjockey at msn.com>>
>  Cc: Dewey3 <dewey3 at gmail.com<mailto:dewey3 at gmail.com>>; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net> <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>>
>  Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS
>
>  I would assume it’s encrypted.
>
>  > On Nov 8, 2024, at 13:28, DOUG WHITE <dw_skyjockey at msn.com<mailto:dw_skyjockey at msn.com>> wrote:
>  >
>  > Update:  When I use the Proscan (my radio programmer)  Radio Reference downloader, it only offers one AACo. APCO P25 system to download.  The "view in browser" option takes me to what I think is the correct/most recent Radio Reference database webpage for AACo.
>  >
>  > So, it looks like I have downloaded the correct AACO info, but I can't hear anything being broadcast.
>  > Any other ideas?
>  > dw
>  >
>  > ________________________________
>  > From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net> <scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> on behalf of DOUG WHITE <dw_skyjockey at msn.com<mailto:dw_skyjockey at msn.com>>
>  > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 12:04 PM
>  > To: Dewey3 <dewey3 at gmail.com<mailto:dewey3 at gmail.com>>; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net> <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>>
>  > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS
>  >
>  > Okay Dewey— by a quick scan of this link, I don’t think this is the system I downloaded. I may have downloaded the old system - it referenced P-16. thank you for this. I will double check.
>  > DW
>  >
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>  > Doug - KC3VJS
>  > Odenton, MD
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>  > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 11:44:52 AM
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>  > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Anne Arundel County Fire/EMS
>  >
>  > I just realized that I looked at the old P16 Anne Arundel Co system in my
>  > first reply.  The correct system (
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>  > encrypted and FD in the clear.  So unless you're somehow listening to the
>  > old system which is now depreciated, the quiet FD channels are a mystery
>  > for now.
>  >
>  > Dewey
>  >
>  >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 11:18 AM DOUG WHITE <dw_skyjockey at msn.com<mailto:dw_skyjockey at msn.com>> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> I have reprogrammed my BCD396T and 396XT scanners with fresh Anne Arundel
>  >> County Fire/EMS data since they stopped receiving a while back. I assume AA
>  >> Co. changed something... about the time they went encrypted on police TGs.
>  >> The new programming (used Radio Reference subscription download) does not
>  >> work either.
>  >>
>  >> Can someone give me some guidance?  I'm assuming they are using a system
>  >> my scanners are not capable, but I'm not too savvy in this arena. Thanks
>  >> DW
>  >>
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>  >> Doug - KC3VJS
>  >> Odenton, MD
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