[Scan-DC] ADS-B Feeding
dewey3 at gmail.com
dewey3 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 14:04:43 EST 2024
Thanks Jordan!
That was a mouthful, but it sure explains it. There are four tracking site
that I am aware of, ADS-B Exchange, FlightAware, FlightRadar24, and
RadarBox, and your explanation solves the ADSBEx question. Thank you for
showing how and where to expect the effects.
Dewey
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From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net <scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
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Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 13:08
To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] ADS-B Feeding
>I wonder what affect this will have on ADSB-Exchange, the only website
I am aware of that does not block "Blocked aircraft".
This issue is separate from the one that ADSB-Exchange eschews.
Any vendor that redistributes? resells? FAA-sourced data must block from
retransmission any tail number or three-letter-code flight numbers which
are on the LADD "block list" [ https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd ] --
examples:
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/TWY57
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N68885
These are the same aircraft. But of course ADSB-Exchange doesn't block
them (because they don't get their data from the FAA, and thus aren't
under the same rules), so:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a9247d&lat=37.355&lon=-121.927&zoom=5.0
&showTrace=2024-02-08
There's a *different* FAA program that allows an operator to change
their Mode-S code to one that does not translate to a specific tail
number; in order to still function correctly in the national airspace
system, they further contract with a firm that manages 3-letter-codes
for them, so that's what you'll hear on your scanner when they talk to
ATC. Here's an example:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a1010e&lat=34.011&lon=-115.150&zoom=5.0
&showTrace=2023-10-04
You can see in the left column that the "DB flags" on ADSB-Exchange
lists this one as PIA and links to this description:
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy/
And if you look up that code it translates to N164FG which has a funny
looking "registration" record:
https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResult?NNumbertxt=164
FG
Anyway, on that day, that aircraft flew with a few different call signs
(click on segments to see): The flight originated (back up one day) at
Austin Executive (EDC) as XAA4644 to SNA; inbound to MRY from SNA was
XAA3703; then it flew to Steamboat Springs as XAA2303; then to SNA as
XAA1222; and finally back to St Louis (KSUS) as XAA9882. [XAA is the
3-letter-code for ARINC and you'll hear ROCKFISH on the radio, much in
the way you'll hear SPEEDBIRD for British Airways (BAW)]
That seems pretty airtight: unless you saw the aircraft on the ground at
one of those airports, you'd have a hard time figuring out the tail
number. I mean, it's not impossible to determine that it was actually
FA7X N8200E, but it's pretty hard.
Anyway, the story linked to earlier just says that there's a few new
places where you can continue to do this kind of thing; for various
technical reasons routes over parts of the ocean weren't set up to
handle it. You also can't, for instance, do it while flying
internationally, because it's an FAA-only program: you have to put your
real code in the transponder when flying to, say, London:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab3338&lat=33.987&lon=-65.348&zoom=3.0&
showTrace=2024-01-17
TL;DR: fewer flights will show on FAA-sourced sites like Flightaware; no
change for ADSB-Exchange.
/jordan
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