[Scan-DC] No Park Police radio recordings of Lafayette Square

Robert W. Fisher rwfisheriv at comcast.net
Wed Jul 8 10:39:36 EDT 2020


Perhaps an ignorant question…but if the encrypted comms data were recorded, could FOIA be used to force the sender to decrypt?

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 09:08, Paul - W4ATN <paul at w4atn.com> wrote:
> 
> Now would be a good time to argue transparency! Recordings conveniently not available but had the transmissions been in the clear ...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 07:18, Andrew Clegg <andrew_w_clegg at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In this case the recordings apparently don’t exist so a FOIA request wouldn’t produce anything from that perspective. This might be one reason why encrypting is not always a good idea—without encryption the scanner industry will automatically log your radio transmissions. 
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 7:05 AM, John Pak <pak.john1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could file a FOIA request as well.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
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>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] No Park Police radio recordings of Lafayette Square
>>> 
>>> If it wasn’t encrypted they could just download a copy of the audio off of Broadcastify :)
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Ed Tobias <edtobias at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bet that’s right...or they didn’t think to include that capability in the encryption contract.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Joel Kahn <jrkahn at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andy:They couldn't figure out how to do it because it is encrypted!
>>> Joel R Kahn
>>> Comme dicté à mon chat et envoyé de mon ordinateur de bureau.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 08:38:45 PM EDT, Andrew Clegg <andrew_w_clegg at hotmail.com> wrote:
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