[Scan-DC] Freqs for Dulles RE: Fw: Open Skies

Tue Feb 17 17:25:10 EST 2015

Actually, no - the weather wasn't that bad, snowing but not that bad. The flight arrived at IAD around 3:10 pm and left westbound around 6:30 pm. The reg is RA-85655
Blendi
      From: Joel Kahn <jrkahn at att.net>
 To: Scan DC <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Freqs for Dulles RE: Fw: Open Skies

I am guessing the current weather conditions in the Mid-Atlantic US will scrub or delay the proposed flight.
Of course, the Russian pilot may be used to this weather! 

Joel R Kahn

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 From: Thomas P. Clouse <tom at clouse.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Freqs for Dulles RE: Fw: Open Skies

The Tu-154 appears to be an exact copy of the Hawker Siddeley Trident,
including the same wing sweep angle and positioning of the doors and
emergency exits.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_Trident

The Tu-154 first flew 6 years after the Trident. The Soviets obtains
blueprints for Concorde in the 60s. Conceivably, they could have done the
same for the Trident.

Or, like Dewey said, there are only so many places to stick wings, engines,
doors, etc.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Dewey <dewey3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's like saying the Airbus A31x/A32x family looks like a copy of the 737
> (no harshness intended).  There's only so many variances that you will get
> from the "traditional" passenger aircraft before they just won't fly.  When
> the engines are mounted on the rear of the fuselage, you almost have to go
> with the traditional whale tail, or the engines are going to burn up the
> rear stabilizers.  The Falcon 50 has always looked funny to me since it
> looks like a mini 727, but the rear stabilizers are only half way up the
> tail.
>
> Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scan-DC [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 14:59
> To: 'Alan Henney'; 'Scan DC'
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Freqs for Dulles RE: Fw: Open Skies
>
> What freqs should we used for the arrival today/takeoff later in the week?
>
> The plane looks like a copy of a 727:
>
> http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Tupolev-Tu-154M-LK-1/0845756/L/
> &
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJSTsBrnjes
>
> And here's one that lands after losing flight controls, steering via
> engine/throttle control, forward to 5:50 for the landing:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYoIIEOFCvQ
>
> It's a tough bird. This one survived an electrical failure and landed on an
> abandoned, snow-covered runway, clearing out a couple of hundred yards of
> brush . It took off from the same runway. At 1:30 - shows the plane in the
> brush:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si3UI0mIyQM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scan-DC [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan
> Henney
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:54 PM
> To: Scan DC
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Fw: Open Skies
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:20 PM
> To: Undisclosed recipients:
> Subject: Open Skies
>
> Folks,
>
>
> Got this from a local guy
>
>
> Acft could be RA-85135- TU-154M
>
>
> This is an Open Skies Message from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
>
> This is Notification SESSION NUMBER 1 for Open Skies Mission Number
> OS15002.
> The Russian Federation has filed an Intent to Conduct an Observation
> Flight.
> Takeoff will occur no sooner than 1859 Eastern Standard Time, 2359 Zulu
> Time, on February 17, 2015.
> This Mission must be completed by 1530 Eastern Standard Time,
> 2030 Zulu Time, on February 20, 2015.
> CALL SIGN: OSY-33F
> This is an Open Skies observation mission with 30 foreign observers onboard
> the aircraft. Imagery will be taken. The point of entry will be Dulles
> International, Washington D.C. Estimated time of arrival is 16 February
> 2015
> at 2030Z. The Open Skies airfield where the flight will commence is
> McConnell AFB, KS. Approximate flight distance is 4800km.
> The next Notification will be transmitted upon a Mission Negotiated Final
> Plan.
>
>
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