[Scan-DC] Firefighter radios did not work in tunne l dur ing Metro smoke incident ·

Jeff Krauss jeff at krauss.ws
Tue Jan 13 22:29:08 EST 2015


After viewing the Fox5 piece by Paul Wagner, I'm sure you're correct.
He said that the units in the tunnel couldn't 
communicate with the incident commander at street level.

Which means that the DCFD command structure was deficient.

If I recall, the Montgomery County FD procedure 
is to assign a "Forward Incident Commander" (they 
don't use that term) at the stationmaster's 
kiosk, whose job includes communications between 
units in the tunnel and the command post upstairs.

Also, when Montgomery County has a Metro 
incident, I hear units come up on the air 
identifying themselves as "Rail 704" and similar 
callsigns.  Not clear whether they are County FD 
employees or WMATA employees.  At least some of 
them seem to carry caches of radios to assist in 
radio communications between the fire department and Metro dispatchers.



At 08:07 PM 1/13/2015, djoneses wrote:
>I would think that this quote from the Fox5 story answers your question:
>"firefighters used line of sight communication in the tunnel."  Presumably
>that means that simplex i.e. line of sight channels were used.
>
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>Metro smoke incident ·
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>Presumably this means that the portable radios could not reach the base
>station.
>Don't they have simplex channels for portable-to-portable comms for that
>case?
>
>
>At 05:54 PM 1/13/2015, FiveAlarm Photography wrote:
> >*Sources: Firefighter radios did not work in
> >tunnel during Metro smoke incident* ·
> >o    *Updated: Jan 13, 2015 3:48 PM EST* *By
> >MyFoxDC.com Web Producer* WASHINGTON -Two
> >sources with knowledge of Monday's smoke
> >incident on Metro tell FOX 5 that firefighter
> >radios did not work inside the smoky tunnel near
> >the L'Enfant Plaza station. Those sources tell
> >FOX 5 antennas inside tunnel were not working
> >and had not been for several days. Because of
> >that outage, they say firefighters used line of
> >sightcommunication
> ><http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/27840370/sources-firefighter-radios-metro#>
> >in the tunnel and cell phones to get information
> >out.
> >http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/27840370/sources-firefighter-radios-metro
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