[Scan-DC] Washingtonian: This Illegal Drone Footage ofDC IsBeautiful

Dewey dewey3 at gmail.com
Mon May 5 22:01:15 EDT 2014


Ed, I focus on “drones” only because that is the definition that the NTSB Administrative Law Judge cited.  If you want to read more about it, you might want to research (Google) Raphael Pirker.  He is the photographer that the FAA was trying to make an example of when he buzzed some landmarks in New York.  Here’s a start which gives a pretty good layman’s (non-aeronautical) explanation of the ruling: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-06/drone-pilot-s-fine-dropped-by-judge-finding-against-faa.html
 
From: Ed Tobias [mailto:edtobias at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 21:48
To: Jeff Krauss
Cc: Dewey; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Washingtonian: This Illegal Drone Footage ofDC IsBeautiful
 
Forget about defining "model airplanes." FAA rule 2009 also lists "Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS)" as prohibited in that airspace. That's the technical term for what are commonly referred to as "drones."   It seems pretty definitive to me.
 
Ed
 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID. Please excuse typos.


Jeff Krauss <jeff at krauss.ws> wrote:

Of course, the FAA regulations are merely agency rules, not laws.
They have the force of law until they are challenged, and overturned, 
as being arbitrary and capricious.
Model airplanes are prohibited?  Really?

I stayed in a Holiday Inn not too long ago.




At 09:14 PM 5/5/2014, Dewey wrote:
>No argument with the question, after all, we are talking about human lives!
>The problem is as Merlin already pointed out... "model aircraft" are
>specifically listed as restricted in the DC FRZ.  However, it was the NTSB
>Administrative Law Judge who pointed out the problem with the apparent lack
>of definition for "model aircraft".  I'm not a lawyer, do not play one, and
>don't remember if I've ever stayed at a Holiday Inn, but I still say that
>the precedence has been set with the overturning of the FAA's fine.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Krauss [mailto:jeff at krauss.ws]
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 21:05
>To: merlin at merlinjacobs.com; Dewey; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Washingtonian: This Illegal Drone Footage ofDC
>IsBeautiful
>
>The FAA may well be overreaching on the general subject of those
>model airplanes called "drones".
>But is anyone going to take them on for their rules for the DC Flight
>Restricted Zone?
>
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