[Scan-DC] D.C. Fire/EMS: Planning for ENCRYPTION !!!

[Dewey3]

Yes, Chief Lanier set that precedent here, but the first city I know of to
go full encryption is Orlando, Florida... about 5 - 7 years before DC.
There may be others who switched before, but Orlando is the first that I
know of.  And I fully agree, Radio Reference has made a ton of money of off
us while destroying the exact same hobby with the feeds!  Remember the
battle between Lindsey and the Fed years ago about publishing the AAFB
frequencies?
On Nov 18, 2013 1:17 AM, "Jonathan Binstock" <binstockj at comcast.net> wrote:

> Alan:
>
> It appears that Chief Lanier set the precedent.  I sure hope there will be
> some channels that will simulcast.  We are all aware of the homeland
> security issues, but why can't they just keep the systems as is and encrypt
> only the sensitive information?  If the concern is with criminals evading
> the police via iPhone apps. or scanners, history shows that criminals
> evaded
> police WAY before scanners and iPhones.  Their cohorts can just as easily
> text them the location of officers.  Lone criminals can always scope out
> potential crime scenes themselves and figure ways to stay ahead of the law.
>
>
> So why deprive the scanner community of a hobby and those who would use it
> for beneficial purposes i.e. hearing a fire/ems call while in your car and
> avoiding that area so that the apparatus can arrive safely or hearing the
> description of a criminal suspect and protecting yourself and/or reporting
> someone matching that description to law enforcement, thereby aiding in the
> apprehension.
>
> New York, the city hit hardest (no pun intended by any means) on that
> fateful day in 2011, still operates on their VHF channels for fire and UHF
> for police.  No trunking, encryption, etc. and whatever city and suburban
> systems are trunked, they are not encrypted and the only monitoring
> problems
> deal with reception issues i.e. steel buildings, RF, etc.
>
>
> End of soapbox.
>
> Jonathan Binstock
> NK3D
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan Henney
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:24 PM
> To: Scan DC
> Subject: [Scan-DC] D.C. Fire/EMS: Planning for ENCRYPTION !!!
>
>
> We have heard from a couple different sources who are telling us that when
> D.C. Fire/EMS switches to its new Motorola APX radios in early 2014, the
> radio system will be encrypted!
>
> This will be another tremendous loss for the scanner community and another
> horrible precedent.
>
> No doubt the embattled fire chief has taken some hard knocks the past year
> and perhaps a few of those incidents could be attributed to what was
> monitored on the radio.
>
> Specifically cited by one source was the Navy Yard shooting.  Audio
> recordings from that incident were downloaded by the local media from
> RadioReference, much to the anguish of fire/EMS officials.
>
> While I don't think it made the department look bad at all, it demonstrated
> how they have lost control of who monitors and shares what is broadcast
> from
> FEMS radio channels --- but not for long?
>
> I'm frustrated by the continuing erosion of our hobby and the inability of
> the public -- and especially the once mighty D.C. press corps -- to make
> change.
>
> If anybody has the ability to change things in the D.C. government, now is
> the time!
>
> Alan
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