[Scan-DC] VSP used automatic license plate readers to build massive database of political rally attendees

Doug Kitchener oldsdoug at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 11 15:18:33 EDT 2013


Please let us know what you get... I'd be _really_ interested.



----- Original Message -----
> From: andrew <amickert at gmail.com>
> To: "scan-dc at mailman.qth.net" <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] VSP used automatic license plate readers to build massive database of political rally attendees
> 
> Loudoun County has a few cars with license plate readers on them. Last week
> I submitted a FOIA request asking for all data acquired using the devices
> for the month of July.
> 
> I am anticipating getting back plate numbers along with date time and
> latitude and longitude but future any personally info regarding owner would
> be redacted.
> 
> Have not heard back regarding the request.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Doug Kitchener <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>  I wonder what our foremothers and forefathers would think of all this
>>  technology... and the way it's being used.
>> 
>>  "Eraine Bennis... you on our rist!"
>> 
>>  :(
>> 
>> 
>>  >________________________________
>>  > From: michael rumberg <m_c_rumberg at hotmail.com>
>>  >To: "scan-dc at mailman.qth.net" <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
>>  >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:44 AM
>>  >Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] VSP used automatic license plate readers to 
> build
>>  massive database of political rally attendees
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >one doesnt have to stretch the limits of credulity to understand that
>>  license plate readers are highly effective tools used in the areas of known
>>  criminal activity (ie. drug markets, sex work, chop shops, sportsbooks,
>>  fences, etc).
>>  >
>>  >they are also easily used near mosques,  gun shows, women's health
>>  centers, and facilities on the lists of critical infrastructure for
>>  counter-terrorism work.  They are not just on scout cars either, in DC they
>>  are on lots of parking enforcement vehicles.
>>  >
>>  >Its no secret police departments have vast intelligence databases
>>  developed over decades.  alpr's are just one tool and technology is 
> making
>>  it easier and easier for them to collect ever more information.  They are
>>  super useful for monitoring groups like the ones detailed in this list:
>>  >Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1970-2008
>>  (PDF)
>>  >
>>  >dont ever think "it can't happen here in the United 
> States...."
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