[Scan-DC] BACKPACKS

Dewey3 dewey3 at gmail.com
Tue May 7 13:00:22 EDT 2013 

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Professional courtesy STARTS with professional surrender when stopped

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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Greg Danes <danesgs1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It depends on how pro the officer is, case in point a USSS agent took a wiz
> off the King street metro station back in the 80's, he was tanked and
> coming off a detail, metro cop walked up and asked WTF are you doing, he
> showed his badge and the cop said fine. Get the F&*(k off my platform and
> if I ever see you again here your ass is in jail. Needless to say the agent
> later pulled counterfeit duty in LA. DC was a little too much for his skill
> set. it all depends, cops are people like everyone else, some are gung ho
> others have a good sense of humor. They are there to protect and serve. I
> would have thrown the guy in the pokey for public wizzing myself but
> everything has a good and bad point..... :)
>
>
> KJ4DGE
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Joel Kahn <jrkahn at att.net> wrote:
>
> > I don't travel as much as I used to, but since 9/11 I have been to
> Turkey,
> > Israel and various places continental.  I always have my 396T with me,
> and
> > for
> > everywhere but Turkey (that was on a cruise ship) I have had my GPS.
> >
> > In November, I went to Ft. Worth for a convention (& hoped to take Upman
> to
> > lunch, but that did not work out). I had my digital camera, Home Patrol,
> > PSR800
> > and laptop along with all the wires, chargers & spare batteries in
> > my carry-on
> > backpack and my C-Pap in it's case. TSA didn't look twice at all the
> > electronics, but took the C-Pap out of it's case and plugged it in to see
> > if it
> > worked!
> >
> >
> > WTF, if it was not a C-Pap it would have taken a large chunk out of the
> TSA
> > corridor at BWI!
> >
> > Coming back, the TSA inspector asked my what the HP-1 was, and when I
> said
> > a
> > ploice & fire scanning radio, he said "cool".  I turned it on (without
> the
> > antenna) and because I was planning on listening while I waited, I had
> the
> > DFW
> > airport queued up and the TSA at the next pod was using his radio, so of
> > course,
> > it came over the scanner.  The TSA guy did nothing but laugh and ask
> where
> > he
> > could buy one!  (Uniden, you owe me a commission!)
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Shawn P. Stokes <shawn.stokes at dlvfrd.org>
> > > > To: "" <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Cc:
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> > > >
> > > > Will the conspiracy theorists please sit down.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sitting on a United 757 coming back from Orlando from a weekend
> > trip.
> > > > Between the backpack at my feet and the roller board in the closet
> > ahead
> > > > of me I have:
> > > >
> > > > This MacBook
> > > > TH-F6A Dual Band portable
> > > > BCD396XT
> > > > Programming cable with USB adapter for the 396
> > > > Hershey Kiss V/U antenna with SMA adapter attached
> > > > Two packs of enloop batteries on top of whats in the two mentioned
> > radios
> > > > The charger including the 110 and 12V cables for the enloops
> > > > Coiled 12V Cable for charging the iPhone
> > > > An air card hotspot
> > > > The 110V charger for the air card and the iPhone
> > > > A PPT clicker with a laser in it
> > > > The charger block for the Mac
> > > > A set of headphones
> > > > An ear bud for the F6
> > > > Gifts, dirty drawers, gels, liquids and a partridge in a pear tree
> > > >
> > > > Carried it through security at Dulles and Orlando, listened to the
> 396
> > on
> > > > the headphones for 2.5 hours at IAD both in the UA Club and in the
> > > > concourse.  Questions from TSA or any LEO (MWAA, OPD or other).
>  ZERO.
> > > >
> > > > Folks, some people, some places, they are going to be over the top.
>  It
> > > is
> > > > what it is. The majority doesn't care, if you carry yourself in a
> > > > professional, respectable manner, don't draw attention to yourself
> and
> > > > when approached, be decent.
> > > >
> > > > People are their own worse enemyŠŠŠŠŠ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/6/13 12:07 AM, "Doug Kitchener" <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> No backpacks, but any other kind of bag is allowed... good.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's only a matter of time before the radios (batteries, etc) will
> be
> > > >> disallowed... I question whether some of the "securities" would
> > > > know what
> > > >> some of our toys are... several guys here have been hassled
> regularly
> > > >> when taking scanners into sports events, Amtrak stations, etc.  I
> > think
> > > >> there was a big discussion one time with one guy who couldn't make
> > > >> someone understand the difference between a two-way radio and a
> > > >> receiver...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> And remember the Underwear B*mb** and the Shoe B*mb**?  I can see
> > people
> > > >> having to go through a strip search to get into the Kennedy Center.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> An IED doesn't have to get "inside" an "event"...
> > > > with everyone waiting
> > > >> to go _through_ security, plenty of damage can be done to the folks
> > > >> waiting around.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Unfortunately we can't have 100% protection, but a lot of this stuff
> > is
> > > >> just knee-jerk reactions.
> > > >>
> > > >> I suppose the airlines / TSA will get all crazy and tighten up again
> > > too.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm planning to visit the midWest this summer... was on the fence
> > about
> > > >> whether to fly or drive... had pretty much decided to drive but was
> > > still
> > > >> maybe 10 - 15% in doubt...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm driving.  Thanks for helping me to decide that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Shit, I'm paranoid just writing about this stuff.
> > > >>
> > > >> "Eraine Bennis... you on our rist!"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> DK
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>  From: "merlin at merlinjacobs.com"
> > > > <merlin at merlinjacobs.com>
> > > >>>  To: johnson at cpcug.org; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> > > >>>  Cc:
> > > >>>  Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:13 PM
> > > >>>  Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  It's going to get to the point where we can't have baby
> > > > strollers,
> > > >>>  purses, back packs, bottle water , and we will have to empty our
> > > bowels
> > > >>> before
> > > >>>  each event. This is such over kill.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  -----Original Message----- From: johnson at cpcug.org
> > > >>>  Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 10:34 PM
> > > >>>  To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> > > >>>  Subject: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  All -
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  The latest "protection" security people seems to have
> > > > implemented is
> > > >>>  to
> > > >>>  not allow backpacks to outdoors events.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  At a local event for the Cinco de Mayo festivities here in Denver
> > the
> > > >>>  "security" personnel did not allow attendees to take in
> > > > backpacks.
> > > >>>  Yet, I
> > > >>>  saw plenty of camera bags, sport bags and strollers with each one
> > > >>> capable
> > > >>>  of carrying a load of explosives being allowed onto the event
> > grounds.
> > > >>>  True, the bags were checked as was my backpack until the guy
> > > remembered
> > > >>> no
> > > >>>  backpacks allowed but if you wanted, you could easily bring in an
> > > >>>  explosive device hidden in those bags under the gym shorts, baby
> > > >>> nappies,
> > > >>>  etc.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  I was lucky that I was not too far from my vehicle so it was only
> a
> > > > five
> > > >>>  minute walk each way but, nonetheless, it was irksome for the
> usual
> > > >>>  implementation of a whimsical and flippant move for "security.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  I carry the radios, notebook and extra battery packs in the
> backpack
> > > so
> > > >>>  now I need to get some cargo pants to carry the stuff.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  I imagine the 5 and 10 K races and the Marine Marathon will be
> > locked
> > > >>> down
> > > >>>  for "security" at their scheduled time.  The Marine Memorial
> > > > has
> > > >>>  always
> > > >>>  been locked down for the Marathon but I guess the whole route will
> > now
> > > >>> be
> > > >>>  and radio amateurs who help will need to be on site the night
> before
> > > > and
> > > >>>  have a security clearance before participating!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  Ralph Johnson
> > > >>>  Denver, CO
> > > >>>
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