[Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
Doug Kitchener
oldsdoug at yahoo.com
Tue May 7 11:11:53 EDT 2013
I guess you never can tell... I know of at least two railfan guys here who have been hassled by AmTrak police or security or whatever when scanning in and around train stations and the like... and one of those guys also got a ration of (****) around Deadskins Stadium or whatever it's called.
----- Original Message -----
> From: Joel Kahn <jrkahn at att.net>
> To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>
> I don't travel as much as I used to, but since 9/11 I have been to Turkey,
> Israel and various places continental. I always have my 396T with me, and for
> everywhere but Turkey (that was on a cruise ship) I have had my GPS.
>
> In November, I went to Ft. Worth for a convention (& hoped to take Upman to
> lunch, but that did not work out). I had my digital camera, Home Patrol, PSR800
> and laptop along with all the wires, chargers & spare batteries in
> my carry-on
> backpack and my C-Pap in it's case. TSA didn't look twice at all the
> electronics, but took the C-Pap out of it's case and plugged it in to see if
> it
> worked!
>
>
> WTF, if it was not a C-Pap it would have taken a large chunk out of the TSA
> corridor at BWI!
>
> Coming back, the TSA inspector asked my what the HP-1 was, and when I said a
> ploice & fire scanning radio, he said "cool". I turned it on
> (without the
> antenna) and because I was planning on listening while I waited, I had the DFW
> airport queued up and the TSA at the next pod was using his radio, so of course,
>
> it came over the scanner. The TSA guy did nothing but laugh and ask where he
> could buy one! (Uniden, you owe me a commission!)
>
> Joel
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Shawn P. Stokes <shawn.stokes at dlvfrd.org>
>> > To: "" <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>> >
>> > Will the conspiracy theorists please sit down.
>> >
>> > I'm sitting on a United 757 coming back from Orlando from a
> weekend trip.
>> > Between the backpack at my feet and the roller board in the closet
> ahead
>> > of me I have:
>> >
>> > This MacBook
>> > TH-F6A Dual Band portable
>> > BCD396XT
>> > Programming cable with USB adapter for the 396
>> > Hershey Kiss V/U antenna with SMA adapter attached
>> > Two packs of enloop batteries on top of whats in the two mentioned
> radios
>> > The charger including the 110 and 12V cables for the enloops
>> > Coiled 12V Cable for charging the iPhone
>> > An air card hotspot
>> > The 110V charger for the air card and the iPhone
>> > A PPT clicker with a laser in it
>> > The charger block for the Mac
>> > A set of headphones
>> > An ear bud for the F6
>> > Gifts, dirty drawers, gels, liquids and a partridge in a pear tree
>> >
>> > Carried it through security at Dulles and Orlando, listened to the 396
> on
>> > the headphones for 2.5 hours at IAD both in the UA Club and in the
>> > concourse. Questions from TSA or any LEO (MWAA, OPD or other). ZERO.
>> >
>> > Folks, some people, some places, they are going to be over the top.
> It
>> is
>> > what it is. The majority doesn't care, if you carry yourself in a
>> > professional, respectable manner, don't draw attention to yourself
> and
>> > when approached, be decent.
>> >
>> > People are their own worse enemyŠŠŠŠŠ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/6/13 12:07 AM, "Doug Kitchener"
> <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> No backpacks, but any other kind of bag is allowed... good.
>> >>
>> >> It's only a matter of time before the radios (batteries, etc)
> will be
>> >> disallowed... I question whether some of the
> "securities" would
>> > know what
>> >> some of our toys are... several guys here have been hassled
> regularly
>> >> when taking scanners into sports events, Amtrak stations, etc. I
> think
>> >> there was a big discussion one time with one guy who couldn't
> make
>> >> someone understand the difference between a two-way radio and a
>> >> receiver...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And remember the Underwear B*mb** and the Shoe B*mb**? I can see
> people
>> >> having to go through a strip search to get into the Kennedy
> Center.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> An IED doesn't have to get "inside" an
> "event"...
>> > with everyone waiting
>> >> to go _through_ security, plenty of damage can be done to the
> folks
>> >> waiting around.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately we can't have 100% protection, but a lot of this
> stuff is
>> >> just knee-jerk reactions.
>> >>
>> >> I suppose the airlines / TSA will get all crazy and tighten up
> again
>> too.
>> >>
>> >> I'm planning to visit the midWest this summer... was on the
> fence about
>> >> whether to fly or drive... had pretty much decided to drive but
> was
>> still
>> >> maybe 10 - 15% in doubt...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm driving. Thanks for helping me to decide that.
>> >>
>> >> Shit, I'm paranoid just writing about this stuff.
>> >>
>> >> "Eraine Bennis... you on our rist!"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> DK
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "merlin at merlinjacobs.com"
>> > <merlin at merlinjacobs.com>
>> >>> To: johnson at cpcug.org; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
>> >>> Cc:
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:13 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>> >>>
>> >>> It's going to get to the point where we can't have
> baby
>> > strollers,
>> >>> purses, back packs, bottle water , and we will have to empty
> our
>> bowels
>> >>> before
>> >>> each event. This is such over kill.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: johnson at cpcug.org
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 10:34 PM
>> >>> To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
>> >>> Subject: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>> >>>
>> >>> All -
>> >>>
>> >>> The latest "protection" security people seems to
> have
>> > implemented is
>> >>> to
>> >>> not allow backpacks to outdoors events.
>> >>>
>> >>> At a local event for the Cinco de Mayo festivities here in
> Denver the
>> >>> "security" personnel did not allow attendees to
> take in
>> > backpacks.
>> >>> Yet, I
>> >>> saw plenty of camera bags, sport bags and strollers with each
> one
>> >>> capable
>> >>> of carrying a load of explosives being allowed onto the event
> grounds.
>> >>> True, the bags were checked as was my backpack until the guy
>> remembered
>> >>> no
>> >>> backpacks allowed but if you wanted, you could easily bring
> in an
>> >>> explosive device hidden in those bags under the gym shorts,
> baby
>> >>> nappies,
>> >>> etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was lucky that I was not too far from my vehicle so it was
> only a
>> > five
>> >>> minute walk each way but, nonetheless, it was irksome for the
> usual
>> >>> implementation of a whimsical and flippant move for
> "security.
>> >>>
>> >>> I carry the radios, notebook and extra battery packs in the
> backpack
>> so
>> >>> now I need to get some cargo pants to carry the stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> I imagine the 5 and 10 K races and the Marine Marathon will
> be locked
>> >>> down
>> >>> for "security" at their scheduled time. The Marine
> Memorial
>> > has
>> >>> always
>> >>> been locked down for the Marathon but I guess the whole route
> will now
>> >>> be
>> >>> and radio amateurs who help will need to be on site the night
> before
>> > and
>> >>> have a security clearance before participating!
>> >>>
>> >>> Ralph Johnson
>> >>> Denver, CO
>> >>>
>> >>>
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