[Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG

[Dan Blasberg]

The bigger the event, the larger the distance assistance gets pulled  
from is an excellent point.  So in that vein, why would Washington  
County need to have PG county in their radios?  Why would Garret  
County?  How about Harrisburg, PA or Sulpher Springs, WV?  What about  
a tanker contractor that hauls water to fill pools as their regular job?

I bet you're wondering what the point above is?  The point is that all  
of the above were used to assist in the major brush fires in PG County  
back in March, back when PG was still on the UHF system.  None of the  
above had PG in any of their radios, some of them didn't even have UHF  
in their rigs because they used VHF and the contractor had no comms at  
all.  The solution, have all responding units check in at the command  
point (like they are supposed to per NIMS) and hand them a radio and ID.


On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Andrew Clegg wrote:

> I think interop typically means more than just talking to your  
> immediate neighbors. The bigger the event, the more distance the  
> units may be coming from, at the same time having an increased need  
> for interop. This incident is an example of why you need universal  
> interop, not just selective interop, in my opinion. There is  
> probably more to the story, or at least that's what I'm hoping!  
> Anyone know? I guess just handing them radios is in fact maybe the  
> simplest solution.
>
> Typos courtesy of my iPhone
>
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 19:03, Dan Blasberg <ka8ypy at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Just a thought, but why would an agency that has no primary
>> responsibility in PG (Anne Arundel does as they are an adjacent
>> jurisdiction), have a need to have the PGFD talk groups in their
>> radios?  BWI AARF responds to PG maybe once or twice a year, and only
>> when requested, as they do not have a tone out like other adjacent
>> jurisdictions, hence providing them radios when they get on scene.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Clegg, Andrew W. wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a link to a published news report regarding the
>>> lack of
>>> interoperability between PG and BWI during this incident? I find  
>>> this
>>> astonishing, more than 30 years after Air Florida. If there is no
>>> published report, this should be forwarded to a news organization  
>>> for
>>> broader exposure (WUSA9, perhaps??).
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Hoyt
>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:32 PM
>>> To: Matt Stevens ; knbrooks at wusa9.com
>>> Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG
>>>
>>> Ahhh. The ugly old monster of lack of interoperability rears its  
>>> ugly
>>> head again.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Matt Stevens
>>> To: knbrooks at wusa9.com
>>> Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG
>>> Sent: Dec 5, 2011 10:19 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 Engines, 1 Tanker, 1 Paramedic and Battalion Chief 2 from Anne
>>> Arundel
>>> County are enroute.
>>>
>>> Crash Rigs from BWI Airport are also enroute. They do not have any
>>> radio
>>> contact with PG. BWI dispatch told the BWI FD units that people on
>>> scene
>>> would give them radios.
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Brooks, Kurt <knbrooks at wusa9.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Overturned fuel tanker sb 301 @ 450.
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