[Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG

[Dan Blasberg]

The capacity is actually 1000, but that number goes down depending on  
how much information you shove into the radio for talkgroups and  
systems.

Interoperability doesn't just include hardware, but frequencies, and  
the band that works for one jurisdiction may not work for another,  
hence the need sometimes for multiple radios.

In the COG everyone can all talk to each other, it is just a matter of  
to what extent and on what channels/talkgroups.

On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Doug Kitchener wrote:

>
> I thought these radios had a capacity of about 8000 (no  
> exaggeration) channels, or talkgroups, or "things"... if that's the  
> case, or even if they (only!) have a capacity of 5000, I can't  
> understand why, at least from a hardware standpoint, that  
> interoperability would be difficult.
>
> Having said that, I'll say what I decided earlier I wasn't gonna  
> say... most of these jursidictions around here can't run themselves,  
> so it's no surprise to me that they can't interface with each  
> other.  :(  There, I said it.
>
> If they all went to Walmart and bought a bunch of FRS radios, they'd  
> have interoperability!
>
> (Ah already ten-four'd ya!)
>
> Sent from my ancient Dell desktop.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: w4jecom at w4je.com
>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:01:46 -0500
>> To: russdavies at verizon.net
>> CC: fivealarmphotography at gmail.com; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG
>>
>> I could understand BWI not being able to talk to PG while still at  
>> BWI due to distance, but since PG was going to give them portables  
>> upon arrival, then the issue was on-scene communications. Even just  
>> a simplex channel would have allowed interop. Did they not have  
>> even that?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 18:34, Russ Davies <russdavies at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Could it have just initially been an issue of range? I know that  
>>> PGFD is one of the zones in the Anne Arundel portables, but only  
>>> in the portables which limits the range. Coming off the BWI  
>>> property I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been able to get the  
>>> PG system until they were further south. Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:58 PM, "Jerry Hoyt " <jerryinva at hotmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure there is, maybe not specifically for these two  
>>>> agencies. I did a major report for a counter-terrorism graduate  
>>>> school class at Hopkins which discussed how this was still a  
>>>> problem for the National Capital Region, but that was a few years  
>>>> ago. Lexus-Nexus provided some useful links.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Clegg Andrew W." <aclegg at nsf.gov>
>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:54:41
>>>> To: <jerryinva at hotmail.com>; <fivealarmphotography at gmail.com>; <knbrooks at wusa9.com 
>>>> >
>>>> Cc: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a link to a published news report regarding the  
>>>> lack of
>>>> interoperability between PG and BWI during this incident? I find  
>>>> this
>>>> astonishing, more than 30 years after Air Florida. If there is no
>>>> published report, this should be forwarded to a news organization  
>>>> for
>>>> broader exposure (WUSA9, perhaps??).
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Hoyt
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:32 PM
>>>> To: Matt Stevens ; knbrooks at wusa9.com
>>>> Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Unit 5 Enroute Rt 301 PG
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh. The ugly old monster of lack of interoperability rears its  
>>>> ugly
>>>> head again.
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