[Scan-DC] U.S. Capitol Police Department's radio system

[Samuel C. Dixon]

Law enforcement is always going to have instances where there is a need to
run people by social or other sensitive identifiers.  Computers are
wonderful but sometimes officers are away from their cars.  Could a criminal
listen in and get someone's social?  Sure its possible but I have never
heard of it happening and officers have been running people by social for
many many years.  The only other solution is to encrypt communications which
no one wants to see happen. I find it interesting that people are
surprised/appalled to hear sensitive information on public safety radio
systems.  

-----Original Message-----
From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Clegg
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:56 PM
To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] U.S. Capitol Police Department's radio system

The Virginia State Police will use SSNs when a person doesn't have their 
driver's license. They request the dispatcher to run the driver by social 
(which they then give out over the air), then the dispatcher responds with 
the person's name, address, control number (driver's license number), and 
physical description. When I listen to the VSP for more than an hour or two,

I almost always hear at least one person being run by SSN. This is all over 
their analog unencrypted system that any criminal with a $50 scanner could 
hear. VSP is moving to digital (they've transitioned in Richmond), but it's 
unencrypted, and right now most of the state is still analog.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Kitchener" <oldsdoug at hotmail.com>
To: <gmentoni at yahoo.com>; <johnantonelli at verizon.net>; 
<scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] U.S. Capitol Police Department's radio system



Do some states (including maybe DC and VA) use the SSN for a driver's 
license number?  Or has that been changed... I think that at least one of 
the two above did at some point.

Also, "Hear, Hear" on Lee's comments and those that followed re encryption. 
I often wonder what the general public would think about some of the stuff 
that we hear on the public service radio...

DK

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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:03:34 -0700
> From: gmentoni at yahoo.com
> To: johnantonelli at verizon.net; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] U.S. Capitol Police Department's radio system
>
> Paisan,

(Snip) Metro Transit PD is the only agency that I've heard broadcasting SSNs

over the air in eons.

> Tango,
> Mentoni
>

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