[Scan-DC] Fw: FW: Fw: "Signal 13" - Montgomery County Police?

[Gregory Menton]

Actually, I'm all for "plain English" radio transmissions in most circumstances. 
Certain situations (active warrants on a subject who is in the presence of the officer, etc) obviously necessitate the use of codes, as Messrs Fowler and Lloyd have noted. But certain codes (i.e. 10/Signal 13) which have been part of the shared lexicon of many agencies for generations should be left as is.
I used to work in the SOC for an IC agency, where we had an FCPD transceiver with capabilities for several of their talkgroups. They now (or, as of last summer) limit their use of codes (9 in total), mostly to situations  where the use of "plain English" would be detrimental to public/officer safety.
Tango,
-GM




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From: David Lloyd <lloydde at verizon.net>
To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 6:14:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Fw: FW: Fw: "Signal 13" - Montgomery County Police?

I kind of like the idea of the officer doing a traffic stop and the warrant
check coming back in plain voice "Yup! That subject is wanted in 10 states!"
To me, it would make sense to only use plain voice in times where
multi-jurisdictional response occurs. It still pains me when the dispatchers
call for "priority response" and "restricted air". One element of good
police and investigative work is the element of surprise, which plain voice
eliminates.  I'm not saying that crooks don't know 10 codes, but it would
seem less likely. 

Of course, there was that time when Monkeygomery tried to use the EMD
Dispatch codes.  "We're responding to a what-the-heck-is-a-9E1??"

Ah well, it's their world, we just listen to it :)

David



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Come on! Signal/10-13 is a universal (almost) message for: "I'm in deep
s***. Sent me help 
FORTHWITH !"
The powers that be on Mt. Olympus want to change it to Signal-1, or some
such generic crap ? Since we're all going to "plain English" (for now; if
we're going to be PC we'll have to have bilingual radio runs), why don't we
have them  scream the aforementioned sentence over the channel ?
-GM


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