[Scan-DC] Bad accident on 110

[Andrew Clegg]

David,

That makes some sense. But, I've listened to incidents that required 
helicopters, and it sure seems that in the 20 - 30 min it takes to call out 
a helo, set up an LZ, transport the patient in the ambulance to the LZ, 
unload from the ambulance, walk the stretcher over to the helo, load into 
the helo, get the helo in the air, and fly to a hospital 10 miles away -- it 
sure seems I could have driven that distance, rush hour or not, in less 
time. But maybe not. I'm sure lots of very smart people have fully analyzed 
this and determined absolutely that helos make sense, even though it puts 
lots of people's lives at risk, as we saw a few days ago.

Storms are a-coming! Get inside and unplug your antennas!

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lloyd" <lloydde at comcast.net>
To: "'Scan-DC'" <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Bad accident on 110


>I don't know which hospitals in Virginia are level-1 trauma centers, but
> helicopters are the fastest way, most of the time*.  I would assume that
> they would be going to INOVA Fairfax or Washington Hospital Center... 
> which
> aren't exactly close by land transportation.    While any hospital could
> handle the patient, it would be in the patient's best interest to get to a
> trauma center in the 'golden hour' and care within the platinum 10 
> minutes.
> (Paramedics being on scene)  There is a lot going on packaging the 
> patient,
> so it's not like they are neglecting the patient while they're making
> helicopter bets. Most of the time, the helicopter betting is by the
> commanding officer, who is overseeing everything. (and in some cases, the
> dispatcher will be ... You have Medstar, Park, Trooper in 5 minutes.. upon
> requesting a bird)
>
> The medics are waaaay too busy to be doing anything else.   A, B, C's
> (Airway, Breathing, Circulation)     I have seen where patients have been
> transported to the local hospital to be stabilized then flown to a trauma
> center - but my guess an ejection need a trauma center FTASAP (Faster Than
> ASAP)**
>
> *IE: If there is no bad weather; or if the accident is across the street
> from the trauma center.
>
> **+I wasn't there, so I don't know.. just my musings on the topic.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Clegg
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 18:51
> To: Scan-DC
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Bad accident on 110
>
> PD working accident on Arlington 1C (not available on analog simulcast, I
> believe). Fire working on Fire 1C (34448). "Checking woods for additional
> victims." I guess it's possible someone could have been ejected out of
> sight.
>
> Medstar refused to fly due to approaching storms. Fire command asking
> dispatch to check with Park Police.
>
> Why not just load the guy in the ambulance and drive 5 minutes to GW or
> Georgetown? I must be missing something.
>
>
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