[Scan-DC] Police Interoperability

[Samuel Dixon]

Not that Im doubting anyone but if there is an FCC law that pertains to 
800Mhz radios in Helos no one in NoVa pays attention to it.  Fairfax County, 
Medstar, Aircare, and USPP helos routinly come up on the various trunked 
systems in NoVa for SAR and Medivacs.

Sam

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JoeBradley" <JoeBradley at nextel.blackberry.net>
To: <ka3jjz at netscape.com>; <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Police Interoperability


> One of the bottom lines here for msp is that the majority of their ops are 
> either on low band or vhf w/ the exception of some of the rockville units 
> (n barrack) which operate on part of montgomery counties 800 astro trunked 
> system. Initially when Mont Co switched over there seemed to be some fcc 
> laws in place that prohibited the helo's from transmitting on the 800 
> channels due to air travel. Then there was the case that their wulfsburg 
> or even newer mutli band radios were not capable of transmitting on a 
> digital or even 800 mhz band channel and the company that makes their 
> radio didn't offer and didn't plan to offer any time in the near future a 
> module that would be capable of that bandwidth.
>
> Too bad they couldn't work out some kind of patch ahead of time.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <ka3jjz at netscape.com>
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:59:58
> To:scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Police Interoperability
>
>  Shameful, utterly shameful. First someone has completly out of date 
> information (453.2 was indeed Baltimore citywide pre trunking), they 
> couldn't patch over to 460.05 (Metro) and most surprising of all, didn't 
> know about the use of the ITAC/ICall frequencies which are supposed to 
> provide this kind of interoperability. And I can't believe that no one in 
> either are knows about the digital trunkers...
>
>  Someone over in the comms area at MSP and Baltimore city needs to become 
> better informed.  Utterly pitiful.
>
>  73s Mike
>
> links editor,Capitol Hill Monitors
> Utility Monitoring Central
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>
>
> --- Rapbep at aol.com wrote:
>
> From: Rapbep at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:47:50 EDT
> To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Police Interoperability
>
> All,
>
> In the 1500 hour EST on 123.025 Maryland State Police helo Trooper 1 was
> chatting with Baltimore City Police helo Foxtrot 4, asking for help on a 
> city-wide
> freq they were supposed to be operating on.
>
> Trooper 1 indicated there was a high-risk joint police op involving the 
> State
> police and Baltimore City police and they were supposed to be listening on
> the city-wide freeq in case they were needed for medevac in case an 
> officer was
> injured during the operation. Trooper 1 indicated that all they had in 
> their
> radio for a city wide freq  was 453.2 but that they was no one on that 
> freq.
>
> I could weakly hear the Baltimore PD controller pass a freq to trooper 1 
> who
> indicated that it must be a trunked freq and that he couldn't operate on 
> their
> trunked system. Trooper 1 then indicated he had receive subsequent info 
> that
> they were to operate on the Metro freq (nfi). Foxtrot 4 acknowledged and 
> said
> that should work.
>
> Trooper 1 was exaspirated with the interoperability problems bemoaning the
> fact that they had millions of dollars tied up in their platform and they
> couldn't talk to folks when they needed to. Trooper 1 ended by saying that 
> next time
> they would bring some tin cans and some string which would work better.
>
> Foxtrot 4 indicated that they had tried to switch all the players to 
> channel
> 16A (nfi), probably on the trunked system, but that didn't work either and
> they were all trying to link up in the Metro System.
>
> In the late 1500 hour, Foxtrot 4 offered to relay comms from channel 16A 
> to
> Trooper 1but informed Trooper 1 that they couldn't get any comms from 
> channel
> 16A themselves. Foxtrot 4 told Trooper 1 they couldn't raise anyone and 
> had no
> info on the police operation. Troopr 1, finally exasperated, indicated 
> that
> with no info on the operation and no comms with the folks involved that he 
> was
> heading back to Martin State.
>
> RON
> ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY, MD (NEAR BWI)
> Pro-2045/BC-895XLT w/Discone
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