[Scan-DC] Civair .. tonights frequency pairs
Alan Coccio
boston at erols.com
Tue Nov 2 13:46:39 EST 2004
Jay, I don't think you can do what you're attempting. The same thing
occurs at BWI at night. There is a single controller that monitors and
transmits across all approach/departure frequencies. All approaching
flights operate on the single freq that is appropriate for their
arriving flight course. Since the approach controller is monitoring all
freqs, he'll hear the aircraft no matter which freq it is on. And since
the controller is transmitting on all freqs, the aircraft will hear the
controller. There is just no way to match up the freqs by pairs during
this type operation. The departure freq is usually constant for the
night (but can change from night to night). The best way to know which
departure freq is being used for a particular night is by listening to
the Clearance Delivery controller when the departure freq is given. The
bottom line is that you must key in on the aircraft transmissions. The
problem arises because your scanner is usually stopping on the wrong
freq when it detects the controller talking, rather than stopping only
on the freq being used by the aircraft. This is just not a problem a
scanner can overcome since there is no way to "open" several frequencies
simultaneously. At BWI, the problem is compounded since another single
ground operator also controls the Tower, Ground, and Clearance Delivery
freqs at night during decreased operations. I suspect it's the same at
DCA. The aircraft will use the appropriate freq but the single
controller is transmitting and listening on all three simultaneously.
Alan
dehm wrote:
>Tonight I noticed that the same controller was transmitting on
>all are arrival/dep. freqs
>
>118.95
>119.85
>121.05
>124.2
>124.7
>
>@ 2300 EST
>
>I know there are a bunch of other pairs they merge late at night... im
>trying to come up with a list of common pairs so when you come across
>the freq you can hear both sides...
>
>anyone know of any others?
>
>-jay
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