[Scan-DC] Re: Scan-DC digest, Vol 1 #85 - 10 msgs
Bob Pugh
[email protected]
Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:46:31 -0500
good morning !
thought this might be a good place to start...
does anyone know where i can get a "chest mic"....remote microphone...
for a Motorola STX 821 ??
i have a severe feedback...hummmm. and was wondering if another
microphone night help.
bob
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1. Re: Call Letters Question (David L. Wilson)
2. a couple of trunking questions (Mike Agner)
3. Radio call sign trivia (Jeff Billingsley)
4. Middle Atlantic Milcom, 28 Aug 02 ([email protected])
5. Scanning Frequency for Wildwood/Cape May ([email protected])
6. Middle Atlantic Milcom, 29 Aug 02 ([email protected])
7. DC CAP today (Steve Paulson)
8. Highway Patrol (Steve Paulson)
9. Re: Highway Patrol (Mike Agner)
10. Gov't struggles to put wireless in homeland defense (Alan
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Message: 1
From: "David L. Wilson" <[email protected]>
To: "fourwd1" <[email protected]>,
"SCAN DC" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Call Letters Question
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:50:29 -0400
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From: "fourwd1" <[email protected]>
To: "SCAN DC" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Call Letters Question
> Like WBAL-AM and WBAL-FM, and WBAL-TV here in Baltimore.
Actually there are *no* -AM callsigns. The AM station is just WBAL.
-FM
and -TV are however sometimes part of callsigns to avoid confusion.
The following FM calls are for example valid:
WBQB (its call is not WBQB-FM)
WYSK-FM (its calls is not WYSK)
Similarly for TV, some calls are -TV and some are not.
But there are no -AM calls though some newspapers, etc. think so.
A check of FCC rules and database will show the above to be true.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:32:23 -0400
To: [email protected]
From: Mike Agner <[email protected]>
Subject: [Scan-DC] a couple of trunking questions
I picked these questions up out of the Maryland Trunking forum
at trunkedradio.net. Anyone have the answers?
---------------
I know that the local fire companies are being switched over to the
County's trunked system, with new talkgroup assignments. I've heard
that
some of the old talkgroups have been shuffled and some re-assigned.
[He
means the Frederick County trunk, sri about that. mja]
Does anyone have reliable information on the new talkgroup structure? I
had
also heard that there's a new control freq...any truth to that rumor?
I work at the RadioShack in Frederick Town Mall, and sell a lot of
scanners. Having this information available to my customers will make a
big
difference.
Regards,
Dave Lufkin
[email protected]
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from Lindsay Blanton:
Does anyone have any information on a new trunked system being deployed
by
Prince Georges County MD?
From what I understand an EDACS system is being deployed?
Anyone have any data on this system?
***My answer- the last I had heard, this system was only being
used for the public transportation (i.e. county buses). ?Anyone?
73s Mike
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Message: 3
From: "Jeff Billingsley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "SCAN DC" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:59:40 -0500
Subject: [Scan-DC] Radio call sign trivia
We have a WMC AM 790, WMC FM 99.7, and WMC TV Channel 5 in Memphis,
TN.
At one point they were all owned by Raycom Media until Raycom decided
=
they just wanted to own television stations. The intermingling
between =
media was pretty neat. You would see the radio people on TV and it was
=
a very cooperative situation. They are still in the same building but
=
some other company owns the radio stations now.
Hang in there,
Jeff=20
Southaven, MS
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Message: 4
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:23:38 EDT
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Scan-DC] Middle Atlantic Milcom, 28 Aug 02
Logs from evening (1700-2230 EDT) listening.
Low ceilings and steady rain (at last !!!) kept local activity
reduced.
1. ANDREWS AFB:
[Tower (118.4/349.0); APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65);
CP
(141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2)]
HOME BASED:
Army 052 (UC-35 # 01052, Army OSACOM Det)- land
Track 66 (C-21 # 84-0066, AFFSA)- approaches
VISITORS :
PAT 933- land
JOSA 776- depart
PAT 2401- depart
Fox 339 (unidentified)- land
Reach 298T- land
JOSA 105- depart
PAT 355- land
Navy JT 054 (C-9, VR-52, Willow Grove)- land
PAT 673 (C-12)- land
JOSA 764- land. Departed about an hour later.
Evac 616 (probable C-141)- depart.
Reach 3076- depart
2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron;
NFATS
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing
Aircraft
Test Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8;
354.8]
Navy TP 26 (T-2C, NTPS)- w/approach (281.8) for landing
Greyhawk 9 (E-2C, VAW-120, NAS Chambers)- w/approach (120.05)
3. GIANTKILLER (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes):
(118.125;135.725;233.7;238.1;249.8;255.0;312.3)
Delve 41 (spelled-Id as Navy--probable E-6B East Coast TACAMO)-
w/Huntress
(364.2) for modes & codes check.
Team 35 flight ( 3 X KC-10s, 2nd/32nd ARS McGuire)- check in (118.125)
for
AAR. Also on interplane (139.875).
Reach 7041 (C-5B,# 87-0041 9TH AS Dover)- on AR-636 primary (238.9)
Smash 31 flight (2 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG Atlantic City)- on sqdn
freq
(138.425) in ACM/intercept training. Check out (255.0) of W-107/W-108
for RTB
Atlantic City.
4. DOVER AFB:
[( App/Dep/Twr: 125.9;126.35;132.425;327.5;339.1;359.3); CP
(134.1/349.4);
Metro (342.5)]
Reach 7041 (C-5B # 87-0041, 9th AS)- w/approach (132.425) & CP (349.4)
w/arrival information.
Venus 23 (C-20B # 86-0203, 99th AS Andrews)- approaches (132.425)-then
RTB
Andrews.
Hagar 71 (C-5B, 9TH AS)- w/CP (134.1)
5. TRANSIENTS & MISC
Coast Guard 101 (VC-37A, CG Hqs)- land at Reagan National.
Raven flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG, Martin State)- on interplane
(41.95) and w/Raven Ops (347.2) w/wx PIREP.
Witch 57 (C-130J # 98-1357, 135th AS MD ANG Martin State)- w/Witch Ops
(385.9) w/arrival information.
Navy LU 701 (P-3C, VP-64, Willow Grove)- w/ZDC (133.9)
Aircraft 105 (unidentified)- w/NAS Chambers Base Ops (126.375)
w/arrival
information.
Army 22325 (helo)- w/Weide AAF (126.2) for landing.
Team 35 flight (3 X KC-10s, 2nd/32nd ARS McGuire)-w/McGuire CP (319.4)
checking on status of their tanker, Steel 63 (KC-135E,147th ARS, PA ANG
Pittsburgh).
RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045/BC-895XLT W/D-130J DISCONE
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Message: 5
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:12:43 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: [Scan-DC] Scanning Frequency for Wildwood/Cape May
Leaving Saturday for ocean, anyone that could help, it would be
appreciated, I don't have use of Internet.
Thank You
[email protected]
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Message: 6
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:46:30 EDT
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Scan-DC] Middle Atlantic Milcom, 29 Aug 02
Logs from early afternoon-evening (1200-1800 EDT)
1. ANDREWS AFB:
[Tower (118.4/349.0); APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65);
CP
(141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2)]
HOME BASED:
Angel 11 (F-18, VMFA-321)- w/Ops (302.6) w/PIREP
Pacer 05 (C-21, 457th AS)- depart.
Army 140 (C-20E # 87-0140, Army OSACOM Det)- land
Angel 21 flight (2 X F-18s, VMFA-321)- on sqdn freq (243.6)
w/ACM/intercept
training.
Marine 101 (C-12, MASD)- land
Army 40 (C-37 # 97-0049, Army OSACOM Det)- land
Venus 83 (VC-9 # 73-1683, 99th AS)- approaches
Wamo 51 (helo)- land
Angel 81 (F-18, VMFA-321)- depart
Navy JR 093 & JR 094 (C-20Gs, VR-48)- land
Track 66 (C-21 # 84-0066, AFFSA)- land
Boxer 44 (id as C-22, 201st ALS DC ANG)- approaches. Also w/Boxer
Control
(314.25)
Venus 44 (C-37A # 98-0404, 99th AS)- approaches
Angel 31 flight (2 X F-18s, VMFA-321)- on sqdn freq (280.45) w/ACM
training
in Pax River areas.
JOSA 153 (id as C-21 # 84-0079, 457th AS)- land
SAM 201 (C-20B # 86-0201, 99th AS)- land
Mussel 8 (UH-1, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local activity
Navy 691 (C-20 # 165691, VR-1)- land
VISITORS :
JOSA 273- depart.
Lobo 399 (C-9, VMR-1, MCAS Cherry Point)- land. Departed about 1.5
hours
later.
JOSA 149 (id as C-21 # 84-0090)- land
Dam/Bam 1 (sounded like)- depart (257.2)
Navy JT 898 (C-9, VR-52, Willow Grove)- land
PAT 221- depart
Fox 173 (id as Marine C-21)- w/Navy Ops (386.8) for landing
PAT 699- land
JOSA 363 (id as C-21 # 84-0100)- land
Army 10301 (C-37, Ft Sam Houston TX)- land
2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron;
NFATS
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing
Aircraft
Test Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8;
354.8]
Water Bug 939 (T-34C # 160939, VX-20)- w/Bay Watch (354.8). Later on in
the
afternoon at Dover (132.425)
Greyhawk 7 (E-2C VAW-120 NAS Chambers)- w/approach (281.8) then cleared
to
Richmond.
Water Bug 290 (P-3C # 160290, VX-20)- on test discrete (277.0)
Water Bug 770 (P-3C # 162770, VX-20)- w/approach (281.8) & ZDC (281.4)
Axeman flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG Martin State)- on interplane
(41.95) then w/approach (305.2)
Navy BH 810 KC-130, VMGR-252 MCAS Cherry Point)- w/ZDC (133.9) then
w/approach (120.05) for landing.
Navy TP 18 (T-38, NTPS)- approaches at Dover (339.1)
3. GIANTKILLER (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes):
(118.125;135.725;233.7;238.1;249.8;255.0;312.3)
Reach 70034 (C-5B 60th AMW Travis AFB)- on AR-636 primary (238.9)
Hammer 11 flight (2 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG Atlantic City)- check in
(255.0)
and on discrete (312.3). Also on sqdn freq (142.45) & w/ZDC (285.4)
4. DOVER AFB:
[( App/Dep/Twr: 125.9;126.35;132.425;327.5;339.1;359.3); CP
(134.1/349.4);
Metro (342.5)]
Reach 9027- w/approach (132.425) for landing.
Husky 50 (C-130H,142nd AS, DELAWARE ANG WILMINGTON) approaches (132.425
&
125.9)
Ross 355 (Cessna 172- FBI Manassas VA)- w/approach (132.425)
Bolar 70 (C-5B, 9th AS)- approaches (132.425 & 125.9)
Reach 9027- w/CP (349.4) w/arrival information.
5. TRANSIENTS & MISC
Team 41 (KC-10, 2nd/32nd ARS McGuire)- w/McGuire CP (319.4) asking to
pass on
to Steel 11 (KC-135E,147th ARS, PA ANG Pittsburgh) that AR track has
been
changed to AR-220.
Sunny 427 (RC-12, 224th Military Intelligence Bn Hunter AAF Savannah
GA)-
w/ZDC (133.9)
CG Activities Baltimore- w/USCGC Sledge (WLIC-75303, Baltimore)
counducting
boat drills (157.15)
Navy WR 149 (unidentified)- w/ZDC (128.525)
Rock 23 (C-130E,327TH AS PA AFRC, WILLOW GROVE PA)- w/Shortstop
(351.75)
w/arrival information.
Snake 31 flight (2 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG Atlantic City)- w/ZDC
(285.4) and
on sqdn freq (138.25) w/ACM/intercept training
Baton 60 (EC-130, 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg)- w/Baton Ops (395.1)
w/arrival
information.
Reach 807F- w/McGuire CP (319.4) w/request for relay of arrival
information
to Charleston AFB.
Raven flight (3 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG Martin State)- w/Raven Ops
(143.8)
w/wx PIREP.
RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045/BC-895XLT W/D-130J DISCONE
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Message: 7
Reply-To: "Steve Paulson" <ght ([email protected]>
From: "Steve Paulson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, "MilCom" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:47:21 -0400
Subject: [Scan-DC] DC CAP today
There was an interesting CAP flight today... actually, BRAVE 21 and 22
must
have been bored out of their gourds. Topics included:
o The new piddle packs. First time I've heard "racehorse" as a verb.
"Have you racehorsed yet?"
"No."
"I'm racehorsin' right now, man"
"Again? That's cause you're not a racehorse. You're like a chihuahua
or
something."
o Complaining about promotion history and squadron leadership.
Whoever he
was, he was really riled up and on a soapbox. Griping about superiors
and
peers by first and last name for more than half an hour!
o Lack of cellphone signal -- wondered aloud how passengers on 9-11
flights
were able to successfully place cellphone calls since he's also an
airline
pilot and has never been able to get a signal in the air.
o Some in-air training on navigation and coordinates (converting
lat/long
to UTMs and vice versa). One of the plane's system froze up a couple
of
times and had to be reset.
o After refueling, these guys played a game of "Battleship," calling
out
coordinates with "hit" and "miss" responses. I was waiting for it and
he
said it: "Fox 1, Fox 2, Fox 3" -- all misses. So much for modern
technology ;)
o Radar targets at long-range
o After refueling, the RWR was triggered on one of the F-16s,
indicating a
missile launch. He asked his wingman if he was shooting at
him--negative.
I wonder what set it off?
o Discussing why the F-15 makes a better CAP aircraft than the F-16:
longer
loiter time, roomier cockpit, and a bigger radar.
They were sure in a chatty mood today. They made CAP sound like
detention
hall, looking forward to when it'd be over.
Thanks, Ron, for the freqs.
--
Steve Paulson
DC Metro Maryland
http://web.utk.edu/~spaulson
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Message: 8
Reply-To: "Steve Paulson" <[email protected]>
From: "Steve Paulson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:50:47 -0400
Subject: [Scan-DC] Highway Patrol
Does anyone have a list of MD / VA Highway Patrol freqs they'd be kind
enough to share? Also interested in the frequencies used by traffic
spotters (helos, vans, local radio contractors, TV, etc.) to report
traffic
conditions. The goal: to gather intelligence in real-time about
traffic
delays ahead while commuting around the Beltway (which lane is blocked
by
the accident, etc.).
Thanks!
--
Steve Paulson
DC Metro Maryland
http://web.utk.edu/~spaulson
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:30:49 -0400
To: "Steve Paulson" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
From: Mike Agner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Highway Patrol
Steve- check our Maryland and Virginia pages, URLs below.
You want to look at:
Eric Carlson's Montgomery County Page (about 1/2 to 2/3 of the
way down, there's an excellant list of media and traffic helo
freqs)
Maryland State Police Freqs and Barracks Locations
(NOTE: for the most part, the 39 Mhz freqs are all simplex- so
don't be surprised about not hearing the mobiles- unless you're
getting kinda close, or you have a good VHF-Lo antenna)
on the Virginia Page, start with David Schoenberger's page
The URLs are: http://henney.com/chm/links/mddatah.htm
http://henney.com/chm/links/vadatah.htm
I'd also take a look at a couple of sites that I need to add to
our pages:
Download the Va State Police file from:
http://www.qsl.net/ai4uk/va/index.html
and since most of the media in the Va area have bases in DC:
http://www.wiscomm.com/media/iadmedia.htm
Oh yes, in Maryland, 123.475 is occasionally used by traffic helos
and
fixed wing aircraft used in traffic spotting. I'd also
scan the 123-124 Mhz and Unicom freqs for other traffic,
particularly in the DC area.
73s and good luck...Mike
At 06:50 PM 8/30/02 -0400, Steve Paulson wrote:
>Does anyone have a list of MD / VA Highway Patrol freqs they'd be
kind
>enough to share? Also interested in the frequencies used by traffic
>spotters (helos, vans, local radio contractors, TV, etc.) to report
traffic
>conditions. The goal: to gather intelligence in real-time about
traffic
>delays ahead while commuting around the Beltway (which lane is blocked
by
>the accident, etc.).
>
>Thanks!
>
>--
>Steve Paulson
>DC Metro Maryland
>http://web.utk.edu/~spaulson
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Message: 10
From: "Alan Henney" <[email protected]>
To: "Scan DC" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:54:21 -0400
Subject: [Scan-DC] Gov't struggles to put wireless in homeland defense
RCR Wireless News
August 26, 2002, Monday
SECTION: Pg. 1
HEADLINE: Gov't struggles to put wireless in homeland defense
BYLINE: JEFFREY SILVA WASHINGTON
BODY:
As the nation approaches the first anniversary of the Sept. 11
terrorist
attacks, the Bush administration and Congress find themselves
struggling
over how to integrate wireless technology into the new, sprawling
homeland
security regime.
Funding and implementation problems are just the start. Key policy
questions-such as information sharing between the government and the
high-tech sector-are in heated debate.
Meanwhile, the wireless industry-desperately fighting to stay
financially afloat as it attempts costly upgrades to networks that are
Internet- and wiretap-friendly-is being forced to shoulder more
responsibility on top of existing federal mandates that carriers claim
are
unnecessary.
While progress has been made on several fronts, obstacles are
everywhere. Some critics even go so far as to say the government has
lost
ground. The challenges are far and wide, touching wireless carriers
and
public-safety agencies, as well critical infrastructure sectors-like
energy,
water and railroad industries-that depend on private-wireless spectrum
for
internal communications and operations management.
The administration's $73 million funding request for wireless
priority
access service has been slashed in the House and Senate. Moreover,
the
National Communications System likely will not meet its goal of
achieving
WPAS nationwide capability by the end of the year.
Next month, the National Security Telecommunications Advisory
Committee-a presidential advisory panel-is expected to send a letter to
the
White House underlining the importance of fully funding a wireless
priority
access initiative the administration considers a key element of
homeland
security. The funding covers technical modifications in wireless
networks to
guarantee mobile-phone access for government officials and first
responders
during emergencies.
Last month, Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association
President
Thomas Wheeler wrote Congress seeking support for the president's WPAS
budget request.
''The wireless industry did not seek this imposition, but out of a
sense
of national purpose has been working with the NCS to develop a
voluntary,
workable and efficient system to provide the capability,'' stated
Wheeler in
a July 25 letter to Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert
Byrd
(D-W.Va.). ''Achieving this goal will require significant enhancements
to
commercial networks in order to accommodate the rapidly growing
government
demand for Wireless Priority Access Service.''
Today VoiceStream Wireless offers wireless priority access in
Washington, D.C., and New York.
NCS did return a call for comment on whether it has revised its
timeline
for WPAS deployment. The funding problem is said to have more to do
with
committee jurisdiction than with congressional commitment to the
program.
The wireless industry will ratchet up lobbying efforts after lawmakers
return next month from
Congress' August recess.
On another front, the Metropolitan Washington Council of
Governments was
to
showcase location-based wireless emergency alert service in the
nation's
capital this fall. But funding uncertainty has put the demo in doubt.
At the same time, lawmakers on Capitol Hill and the rest of the
federal
work force are refining evacuation plans that make liberal use of
cellular
handsets, satellite phones, pagers, Blackberrys and other wireless
gadgets.
That has Douglas Weiser, former president of the Cellular
Emergency
Alert Services Association and a dogged advocate of wireless
reverse-911
technology, angry.
''Miffed that it took over 45 minutes to be alerted (on Sept. 11),
Congress quickly took action and quietly implemented a
Blackberry-based
personal warning system for federal workers. However, to date, not one
nickel of the $44 billion homeland defense tax dollars has been spent
on in
improving the public warning system,'' stated Weiser.
Weiser and others question the Federal Communications Commission's
decision late last month to discontinue a federal advisory committee
that
for years had advised the agency on the nation's Emergency Alert
System.
Linda Blair, deputy chief of the FCC's Enforcement Bureau, said
the
functions of the now-defunct EAS advisory panel have been folded into a
new
Media Security and Reliability Council. The FCC announced the creation
of
the new group in March, but said nothing publicly about its decision
not to
renew the charter of the EAS federal advisory committee.
Critics see the move as a continuing a trend at the FCC that they
claim
has left EAS with few resources and visibility.
Unlike the EAS advisory committee, which was staffed with
engineers, the
Media Security and Reliability Council is top-heavy with industry
executives.
''There are lots of problems with EAS and no one is facing up to
it,''
said Peter Ward, head of the Partnership for Public Warning and lead
author
of a Clinton administration report that advocated incorporating new
technologies-like wireless and Internet-into an emergency alert system
today
entirely dependent on broadcast and cable TV and developed during the
Cold
War.
''There is a controversy,'' said Richard Rudman, immediate past
chairman
of the federal advisory committee to the EAS. ''If warnings are
important to
the American public, then support of the warning system should be
clearly
tasked and funded.
Elsewhere, the FCC has failed to craft a plan to address
private-wireless spectrum requirements of critical infrastructure
industries, despite the administration's acknowledgement that
frequencies
for that sector are needed. A report issued by the FCC last month was
not
received well by utilities-big users of private wireless spectrum.
''We have none (spectrum) of our own. And that fact was completely
ignored'' in the FCC report, said Jill Lyon, vice president and
general
counsel of the United Telecom Council. Lyon said utilities need
dedicated
spectrum for a nationwide, interoperable communications.
Interoperability of public-safety radio communications for police,
firefighters and medics also remains a big challenge a year after the
terrorists attacks.
''The interoperability issues flowing out of Sept. 11 are still
unresolved. There's been a lot of discussion to date, but not a great
deal
of action,'' said Robert Gurss, a lawyer who represents the Association
of
Public-Safety Communications Officials.
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