Hello Alan, Jim, and list: I beleive that chanel 14 is the training channel, 154.145. If I can recall back to 1997 correctly, I beleive that is what I found on the radios right before I went inactive with DCVFD. However, Jim may be correct. I noticed that alot of the radios had frequecies duplicated. I didn't get a chance to verify what their PL's were if they were even there. Jeff