[SADXA] JTAlert question

[Jim W]

On 7/26/2020 8:56 PM, Wes wrote:
> I've heard from another member who is overriding Windows Defender and 
> running JTAlert without issue.
>
> That said even the developer recommends against this.  Partially I'm 
> sure to avoid responsibility.  Even my old Win 7 laptop now deletes 
> the installation file automatically, unless I turn off real time 
> protection.  I have a pro version of Malwarebytes on that machine and 
> it thinks the file is fine.  An older installed version of JTAlert 
> runs fine.
>
> After all is said and done, it would probably be fine to exempt the 
> program, except for a couple of things.  1) It's too much grief just 
> to run FT8 and 2) Annette is working from home and using our LAN to do 
> work for her firm.  The last thing I need is to have some ransomware 
> deny us service.
>
> So, I'll see if I can punt the issue to Microsoft.  It's been done 
> before but it seems that after every "upgrade" the issue returns.
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 7/26/2020 4:13 PM, Wes wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks.  I briefly used JTAlert on my Win 7 pro laptop that I've just 
>> retired as the shack computer. I've rearranged the desk in my cramped 
>> closet/shack and acquired a SFF Win10 Pro machine (used) and now have 
>> two monitors.  So I thought to at least have the capability to run 
>> FT8, although as you know it's not my favorite. I do have N3FJP's 
>> suite of programs, although they aren't my favorite either; I'm still 
>> partial to the antique DXBase.
>>
>> I have several things running that all need the serial port so I use 
>> LPBridge to share the port.  FT8 is really bossy about needing to be 
>> top dog on the port, but I think I've finally got it tamed by using 
>> Omnirig.  Messy but it can be made to work. We'll see how the 
>> introduction of JTAlert affects things.
>>
>> Wes  N7WS
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2020 3:58 PM, mike at 1911parts.com wrote:
>>> Wes,  I"m running JTAlert on Windows 10. I'm running Kaspersky for 
>>> my system security and I don't run Window's Defender.  I do get a 
>>> msg that ask me if I want this software to make changes to my 
>>> system,and I just say yes. I've been running JTAlert since version 
>>> 1.something and never had a problem with it.  Once you get it to 
>>> scan your log (I use AC Log from N3FJP) and build the data bases, it 
>>> really makes it easy to track new ones on each band.  The alerting 
>>> part of JTAlert works great.  I also use the LoTW and EQSL tagging 
>>> option, so you know which stations use online confirmations.
>>>
>>> Regards and 73's,
>>>
>>> Mike Chasse
>>> w7wrj
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>>     Subject: [SADXA] JTAlert question
>>>     From: Wes <wes_n7ws at triconet.org <mailto:wes_n7ws at triconet.org>>
>>>     Date: Sun, July 26, 2020 3:44 pm
>>>     To: SADXA <sadxa at mailman.qth.net <mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
>>>
>>>     Can you FT8 experts tell me whether you are having heartburn 
>>> installing/using
>>>     JTAlert on Win 10?  Win10 reports it as malware. So guys are 
>>> saying override
>>>     Windows Defender and install it, but I'm not so sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Wes  N7WS
>>>
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I have a different security product and don't use Windows Defender, so I 
have no problems with any WSJT-X and JTAlert updates.  Those who do have 
to identify both the software modules and their folder to Defender as 
being OK.  Apparently there is some Defender profile list that if 
updated once will solve the problem permanently.  If this isn't done 
there will be problems each time either of these two software programs 
are updated.  Some people have had to repeat the one-time security pass 
over and over again for each update.  Others have taken the 
permanent-update route and never have to repeat the process.

This has been an ongoing issue in the DXLab interest group among those 
who haven't taken the permanent solution.  If you're interested you can 
peruse the ongoing conversations at the DXLab site in groups dot io.  
There's a lot of conversations to sift through, but using the site's 
"search" feature will identify the right threads pretty quickly.  
There's a lot of talk about how to properly set up DXLab, WSJT-X and 
JTAlert with respect to Windows Defender.  The solution that's described 
over there applies to any piece of software that's being installed or 
updated.

Jim  W9FI