From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Mon Sep  5 23:32:04 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 20:32:04 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] Last call for September meeting's speakers
Message-ID: <6c4e6d08-3f0d-e78d-0c52-099ff7a2874c@mindspring.com>

There are six speakers who will be presenting information on their 
station setups.  The agenda is filling up but there's still room for one 
or two more.  If you'd like to be included as well, please notify me of 
your intentions by Friday evening.  We'll work out the details together.

73, Jim  W9FI



From dickw1ksz at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 11:20:34 2016
From: dickw1ksz at gmail.com (Richard Solomon)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 08:20:34 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] C81AK
Message-ID: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 14240, listening up 4.

Nice copy on the vertical.

Worked on first call !!

73, Dick, W1KSZ

From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Thu Sep  8 15:27:11 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 12:27:11 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot VP6AH 28.495
Message-ID: <3ece103e-ce26-9a7e-6376-c0fd21399055@triconet.org>

Ulrich on Pitcairn listening up 5 @1920Z


From W7EXG at q.com  Sat Sep 10 18:06:33 2016
From: W7EXG at q.com (W7EXG (Bill))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:06:33 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F9DC91C0DC9C49CD909153465B4AD8D8@OwnerPC>

QUESTION: 
	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
FROM: 
	Bill W7EXG

RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation

Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 15 to 30 minutes
BEFORE Tucson Sunrise? 

I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this time. 

If so, could you please provide me with your contact data? 

I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.

PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
4/5 UTC.  

Best 73s, and THANKS! 

Bill W7EXG




From W7EXG at q.com  Sat Sep 10 18:16:13 2016
From: W7EXG at q.com (W7EXG (Bill))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:16:13 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
	Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <F9DC91C0DC9C49CD909153465B4AD8D8@OwnerPC>
References: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F9DC91C0DC9C49CD909153465B4AD8D8@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <DB04C8926D374190994969CABD106B0B@OwnerPC>

SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION 
	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise. 

QUESTION: 
	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
FROM: 
	Bill W7EXG

RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation

Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
BEFORE Tucson Sunrise? 

I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this time. 

If so, could you please provide me with your contact data? 

I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.

PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
4/5 UTC.  

Best 73s, and THANKS! 

Bill W7EXG



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From k6pf at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 10 18:22:18 2016
From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:22:18 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] For Sale: DCI-432-10-C Filter
Message-ID: <B5507BA578A2414F9B3188225FAC3F51@eolmachine>

Since I'm not planning anymore on doing 70cm EME, I would like to sell my DCI-432-10C 4-pole bandpass filter. This is designed for weak signal (like EME) work centered on 432 MHz.  It's vy useable up to 437 MHz.  I'm using a 2m version of this DCI filter for 2m EME & hv it installed between my mast mounted LNA output & the xvtr RX input.  Here's some specs:

Center Freq - 432 MHz
Band Width - 10 MHz
SWR <1.3:1
Return Loss >18dB
Pwr Handling - 200 watts RMS
Impedance - 50 ohms
Connectors - N(f)
Weight - 5.2 lbs
Physical Dimensions - 12" W x 8.5" D x 3" H
S/N - 4426

There are 7 tuning screws & locking nuts out the back.  

http://dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur will take you to DCI's current production model which is a DCI-435-10C which sells new for $477.  The DCI-432-10C which is designed for the low end of the band is no longer produced.  Note this is NOT wx proofed & is NOT designed for outdoor use unless it's installed in a proper housing.  Mine were installed in a rack cabinet.  It's also NOT designed to xmit thru with high pwr.

I have photos available as well as pdf's of the xmission & reflection plots for both the DCI-435-10C & ones I made today of the DCI-432-10C using my VNA.  I'll be happy to email them to anyone interested.

Asking $225 + shipping fm 86323.  PayPal accepted.

Tnx & 73,
Bob, K6PF


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sat Sep 10 20:19:33 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:19:33 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] "DX" spot
Message-ID: <16f6ab8e-8a23-c68d-1af9-ba2c27bc85a0@triconet.org>

Radio Habana Cuba 28.605 (AM) @0000Z


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sat Sep 10 20:39:11 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:39:11 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
 Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <DB04C8926D374190994969CABD106B0B@OwnerPC>
References: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F9DC91C0DC9C49CD909153465B4AD8D8@OwnerPC>
	<DB04C8926D374190994969CABD106B0B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <83f6ba2b-475a-c0b8-5328-a3642b79a916@triconet.org>

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>


From W7EXG at q.com  Sat Sep 10 23:18:39 2016
From: W7EXG at q.com (W7EXG (Bill))
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:18:39 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
	Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <83f6ba2b-475a-c0b8-5328-a3642b79a916@triconet.org>
References: <CAC5FBO8u8Cz=Ha4DD=T=kuwu+p9rw8RL2+DS3hZzWTc4nbB-RQ@mail.gmail.com><F9DC91C0DC9C49CD909153465B4AD8D8@OwnerPC><DB04C8926D374190994969CABD106B0B@OwnerPC>
	<83f6ba2b-475a-c0b8-5328-a3642b79a916@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <721953C6C826400C98F8E39F36877AF5@OwnerPC>

Thanks Wes.

With you in mind, I developed a very simple formula criteria and graphic
defining TRUE Gray-line Propagation window for any two stations adjacent to
the terminator at opposite time zones.   (TRUE meaning ALL propagation
within the Gray-line Twilight Zone) This will be shown in my October
presentation to the SADXA group. It will clearly show that NONE of the
Tucson PM propagation to Heard was TRUE Gray-line propagation. However, the
data will also show that in the morning, prior to Tucson Sunrise, TRUE
Gray-line propagation conditions existed, with the time window being a
function of the date. 

This will clearly differentiate the Gray-line Propagation as a sub-set of
Terminator Enhanced Propagation. For Heard, Terminator Enhanced Propagation
occurred mostly after Sunrise and always after Sunset Tucson Time. 

Your RTTY observation was more of a Terminator Enhanced Propagation, due to
lower D and lower E conditions and HIGH MUF less than 1 hour AFTER Tucson
Sunset, and Low D, Low E and increasing MUF about 1 hour AFTER Heard
Sunrise.   

Jerry, W6XI, may have the ONLY TRUE Gray-line QSO for the group. His 13:02
30m contact with HEARD on 4/5 was completely within the Twilight Region and
was only 4 min. before Tucson Sunrise. Hi Hi. W6XI may WIN "The Great Heard
Island TRUE Gray-line Propagation Prize"! Or GHITGLPP for short!! I am
looking for someone who will share this VERY coveted Prize with Jerry. 

73s, 

Bill W7EXG
 

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they
logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this
time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>

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From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Sun Sep 11 10:42:00 2016
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:42:00 -0400
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
 Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <721953C6C826400C98F8E39F36877AF5@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <15719b2a2b0-5c08-2010f@webprd-a59.mail.aol.com>

Bill,


I worked VK0EK on 30 CW at 1305 on March 24th.  Does that count as grayline?


73 Ray W2RS (Green Valley)



-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from Bill W7EXG

Thanks Wes.

With you in mind, I developed a very simple formula criteria and graphic
defining TRUE Gray-line Propagation window for any two stations adjacent to
the terminator at opposite time zones.   (TRUE meaning ALL propagation
within the Gray-line Twilight Zone) This will be shown in my October
presentation to the SADXA group. It will clearly show that NONE of the
Tucson PM propagation to Heard was TRUE Gray-line propagation. However, the
data will also show that in the morning, prior to Tucson Sunrise, TRUE
Gray-line propagation conditions existed, with the time window being a
function of the date. 

This will clearly differentiate the Gray-line Propagation as a sub-set of
Terminator Enhanced Propagation. For Heard, Terminator Enhanced Propagation
occurred mostly after Sunrise and always after Sunset Tucson Time. 

Your RTTY observation was more of a Terminator Enhanced Propagation, due to
lower D and lower E conditions and HIGH MUF less than 1 hour AFTER Tucson
Sunset, and Low D, Low E and increasing MUF about 1 hour AFTER Heard
Sunrise.   

Jerry, W6XI, may have the ONLY TRUE Gray-line QSO for the group. His 13:02
30m contact with HEARD on 4/5 was completely within the Twilight Region and
was only 4 min. before Tucson Sunrise. Hi Hi. W6XI may WIN "The Great Heard
Island TRUE Gray-line Propagation Prize"! Or GHITGLPP for short!! I am
looking for someone who will share this VERY coveted Prize with Jerry. 

73s, 

Bill W7EXG
 

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they
logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this
time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>

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From W7EXG at q.com  Sun Sep 11 15:35:43 2016
From: W7EXG at q.com (W7EXG (Bill))
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:35:43 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
	Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <15719b2a2b0-5c08-2010f@webprd-a59.mail.aol.com>
References: <721953C6C826400C98F8E39F36877AF5@OwnerPC>
	<15719b2a2b0-5c08-2010f@webprd-a59.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <F50139AD95664924BDB03083D93BA111@OwnerPC>

Hi Ray, 

I think you should get a prize too!! You were the 1st on Reflector to
comment on VK0EK RF on 3/24. You said: 

"Interesting propagation.  I heard nothing from VK0EK until half an hour
before sunrise.  He peaked 579 around SR, then faded and was gone  30-40
minutes after.  Quite a grayline." 73 Ray W2RS

That comment woke everyone up, and actually got me thinking about Gray-line.
As you may know, I launched a study during the Heard Island Propagation
time, gathering as much propagation data as possible. Data was mainly from
my own observations with Yagi (7MHz and up), but also from others who
reported on the Reflector. 20 observations were defined in terms of
bearings, AM / PM times, Time windows, and Dates. I presented this data at
the July 21st SADXA meeting. Don't know if you were there?

I noted your above comment as an observation in the data, but guessed at the
LP bearing. I did NOT know you actually worked Heard that AM.

NOW -- for the answer to your question:

On 3/24, TUCSON SUNRISE was 6:22am local, 
	   HEARD SUNSET was 6:06pm Local 
You can see from this data, TRUE Gray-line Propagation starts at 6:06 Local,
and ends 6:22am Local, defining a 16 min time window, where propagation was
completely in the Twilight Region. HOWEVER -- THIS ASSUMES THE ANGLE OF THE
GREAT CIRCLE PATH AND ANGLE OF THE TERMINATOR WAS THE SAME. Reality was
different.  

Since your 30m contact was at 6:05am Tucson, it was also 6:05pm at HEARD!!  

This means your Contact was 1 min. before HEARD ISLAND SUNSET!! 

SORRY -- You missed the Possible TRUE Gray-line propagation by 1 Min!!
Sounds like MY LUCK!!

You could argue the SR/SS Time Calendars are off by at least 1 min., which
is a reasonable argument, but there is another issue discussed below.  

The Sunrise Terminator angle was -2 degrees. The Great Circle Path was
either 185.4 deg short path, or + 5.4 deg. long path. 

Our data has shown, there was NO SHORT PATH AM PROPAGATION, and the reason
was due to a VERY LOW MUF near HEARTD in the Short Path during the AM. So,
your signal was most likely a long path signal.. This means your RF was
actually diverging from the Terminator at a 7.4 degree angle, towards the
North DAY region, almost all the way around earth to Heard Island. Your RF
would have been about 1545 mi away from the terminator (DAY side)at half way
around the world. 

Thus, my conclusion is -- this was NOT TRUE Gray-line Propagation. 

The lesson learned here, is that both stations could actually be IN THE
GRAYLINE, but if there is an angular difference between the Terminator and
the Great Circle path.. the signal may wander OUTSIDE of the Gray-line
during its propagation. The Gray-line Purists in the Group would say NO
GRAY-LINE propagation. 

I would refer to this propagation path as Terminator Enhanced Propagation. 

All of this will be covered in my PART 2 SADXA presentation on Oct 20th. 

Ray, Thanks so much for your response. I hope this explanation has value to
you and some members of the group.  

Best 73s, 

Bill W7EXG

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W2RS - Ray
Soifer via SADXA
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:42 AM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Cc: rsoifer1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Bill,


I worked VK0EK on 30 CW at 1305 on March 24th.  Does that count as grayline?


73 Ray W2RS (Green Valley)



-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Thanks Wes.

With you in mind, I developed a very simple formula criteria and graphic
defining TRUE Gray-line Propagation window for any two stations adjacent to
the terminator at opposite time zones.   (TRUE meaning ALL propagation
within the Gray-line Twilight Zone) This will be shown in my October
presentation to the SADXA group. It will clearly show that NONE of the
Tucson PM propagation to Heard was TRUE Gray-line propagation. However, the
data will also show that in the morning, prior to Tucson Sunrise, TRUE
Gray-line propagation conditions existed, with the time window being a
function of the date. 

This will clearly differentiate the Gray-line Propagation as a sub-set of
Terminator Enhanced Propagation. For Heard, Terminator Enhanced Propagation
occurred mostly after Sunrise and always after Sunset Tucson Time. 

Your RTTY observation was more of a Terminator Enhanced Propagation, due to
lower D and lower E conditions and HIGH MUF less than 1 hour AFTER Tucson
Sunset, and Low D, Low E and increasing MUF about 1 hour AFTER Heard
Sunrise.   

Jerry, W6XI, may have the ONLY TRUE Gray-line QSO for the group. His 13:02
30m contact with HEARD on 4/5 was completely within the Twilight Region and
was only 4 min. before Tucson Sunrise. Hi Hi. W6XI may WIN "The Great Heard
Island TRUE Gray-line Propagation Prize"! Or GHITGLPP for short!! I am
looking for someone who will share this VERY coveted Prize with Jerry. 

73s, 

Bill W7EXG
 

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they
logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this
time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>

______________________________________________________________


From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Mon Sep 12 09:54:41 2016
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 09:54:41 -0400
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
 Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <F50139AD95664924BDB03083D93BA111@OwnerPC>
References: <F50139AD95664924BDB03083D93BA111@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1571eadae93-103e-1ebe5@webprd-a71.mail.aol.com>



Tnx Bill.  He did peak a few minutes after I worked him but I never heard him that strong again as I did that AM.
 
73 Ray
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2016 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from Bill W7EXG

Hi Ray, 

I think you should get a prize too!! You were the 1st on Reflector to
comment on VK0EK RF on 3/24. You said: 

"Interesting propagation.  I heard nothing from VK0EK until half an hour
before sunrise.  He peaked 579 around SR, then faded and was gone  30-40
minutes after.  Quite a grayline." 73 Ray W2RS

That comment woke everyone up, and actually got me thinking about Gray-line.
As you may know, I launched a study during the Heard Island Propagation
time, gathering as much propagation data as possible. Data was mainly from
my own observations with Yagi (7MHz and up), but also from others who
reported on the Reflector. 20 observations were defined in terms of
bearings, AM / PM times, Time windows, and Dates. I presented this data at
the July 21st SADXA meeting. Don't know if you were there?

I noted your above comment as an observation in the data, but guessed at the
LP bearing. I did NOT know you actually worked Heard that AM.

NOW -- for the answer to your question:

On 3/24, TUCSON SUNRISE was 6:22am local, 
	   HEARD SUNSET was 6:06pm Local 
You can see from this data, TRUE Gray-line Propagation starts at 6:06 Local,
and ends 6:22am Local, defining a 16 min time window, where propagation was
completely in the Twilight Region. HOWEVER -- THIS ASSUMES THE ANGLE OF THE
GREAT CIRCLE PATH AND ANGLE OF THE TERMINATOR WAS THE SAME. Reality was
different.  

Since your 30m contact was at 6:05am Tucson, it was also 6:05pm at HEARD!!  

This means your Contact was 1 min. before HEARD ISLAND SUNSET!! 

SORRY -- You missed the Possible TRUE Gray-line propagation by 1 Min!!
Sounds like MY LUCK!!

You could argue the SR/SS Time Calendars are off by at least 1 min., which
is a reasonable argument, but there is another issue discussed below.  

The Sunrise Terminator angle was -2 degrees. The Great Circle Path was
either 185.4 deg short path, or + 5.4 deg. long path. 

Our data has shown, there was NO SHORT PATH AM PROPAGATION, and the reason
was due to a VERY LOW MUF near HEARTD in the Short Path during the AM. So,
your signal was most likely a long path signal.. This means your RF was
actually diverging from the Terminator at a 7.4 degree angle, towards the
North DAY region, almost all the way around earth to Heard Island. Your RF
would have been about 1545 mi away from the terminator (DAY side)at half way
around the world. 

Thus, my conclusion is -- this was NOT TRUE Gray-line Propagation. 

The lesson learned here, is that both stations could actually be IN THE
GRAYLINE, but if there is an angular difference between the Terminator and
the Great Circle path.. the signal may wander OUTSIDE of the Gray-line
during its propagation. The Gray-line Purists in the Group would say NO
GRAY-LINE propagation. 

I would refer to this propagation path as Terminator Enhanced Propagation. 

All of this will be covered in my PART 2 SADXA presentation on Oct 20th. 

Ray, Thanks so much for your response. I hope this explanation has value to
you and some members of the group.  

Best 73s, 

Bill W7EXG

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W2RS - Ray
Soifer via SADXA
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:42 AM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Cc: rsoifer1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Bill,


I worked VK0EK on 30 CW at 1305 on March 24th.  Does that count as grayline?


73 Ray W2RS (Green Valley)



-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Thanks Wes.

With you in mind, I developed a very simple formula criteria and graphic
defining TRUE Gray-line Propagation window for any two stations adjacent to
the terminator at opposite time zones.   (TRUE meaning ALL propagation
within the Gray-line Twilight Zone) This will be shown in my October
presentation to the SADXA group. It will clearly show that NONE of the
Tucson PM propagation to Heard was TRUE Gray-line propagation. However, the
data will also show that in the morning, prior to Tucson Sunrise, TRUE
Gray-line propagation conditions existed, with the time window being a
function of the date. 

This will clearly differentiate the Gray-line Propagation as a sub-set of
Terminator Enhanced Propagation. For Heard, Terminator Enhanced Propagation
occurred mostly after Sunrise and always after Sunset Tucson Time. 

Your RTTY observation was more of a Terminator Enhanced Propagation, due to
lower D and lower E conditions and HIGH MUF less than 1 hour AFTER Tucson
Sunset, and Low D, Low E and increasing MUF about 1 hour AFTER Heard
Sunrise.   

Jerry, W6XI, may have the ONLY TRUE Gray-line QSO for the group. His 13:02
30m contact with HEARD on 4/5 was completely within the Twilight Region and
was only 4 min. before Tucson Sunrise. Hi Hi. W6XI may WIN "The Great Heard
Island TRUE Gray-line Propagation Prize"! Or GHITGLPP for short!! I am
looking for someone who will share this VERY coveted Prize with Jerry. 

73s, 

Bill W7EXG
 

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they
logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this
time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>

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From dickw1ksz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 18:05:14 2016
From: dickw1ksz at gmail.com (Richard Solomon)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:05:14 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] New VHF/UHF Antenna
Message-ID: <CAC5FBO-2swgzhL2ksAxTs7BXESc6_bD1yEj19RiuEabDO7fLVw@mail.gmail.com>

All on one boom, nice price, looks
like a winner for EME (use 4).

http://www.antennas-amplifiers.com/2m-70cm-High-gain-Yagi/2m-70cm-DualBand-Antenna-PA144-432-34-6
73, Dick, W1KSZ

From W7EXG at q.com  Mon Sep 12 21:17:50 2016
From: W7EXG at q.com (W7EXG (Bill))
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:17:50 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
	Bill W7EXG
In-Reply-To: <1571eadae93-103e-1ebe5@webprd-a71.mail.aol.com>
References: <F50139AD95664924BDB03083D93BA111@OwnerPC>
	<1571eadae93-103e-1ebe5@webprd-a71.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <799E9F982C66497AABB1C2FC3F0F5AAD@OwnerPC>

Tnx Ray.

I don't recall very strong sigs in the am. The strongest I heard was after
Sunset. 

Again I want to thank you for waking us all up, regarding the VK0EK on the
reflector. 

Also, tnx for your reporting. 

73s, 

Bill 



-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W2RS - Ray
Soifer via SADXA
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Cc: rsoifer1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG



Tnx Bill.  He did peak a few minutes after I worked him but I never heard
him that strong again as I did that AM.
 
73 Ray
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2016 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Hi Ray, 

I think you should get a prize too!! You were the 1st on Reflector to
comment on VK0EK RF on 3/24. You said: 

"Interesting propagation.  I heard nothing from VK0EK until half an hour
before sunrise.  He peaked 579 around SR, then faded and was gone  30-40
minutes after.  Quite a grayline." 73 Ray W2RS

That comment woke everyone up, and actually got me thinking about Gray-line.
As you may know, I launched a study during the Heard Island Propagation
time, gathering as much propagation data as possible. Data was mainly from
my own observations with Yagi (7MHz and up), but also from others who
reported on the Reflector. 20 observations were defined in terms of
bearings, AM / PM times, Time windows, and Dates. I presented this data at
the July 21st SADXA meeting. Don't know if you were there?

I noted your above comment as an observation in the data, but guessed at the
LP bearing. I did NOT know you actually worked Heard that AM.

NOW -- for the answer to your question:

On 3/24, TUCSON SUNRISE was 6:22am local, 
	   HEARD SUNSET was 6:06pm Local 
You can see from this data, TRUE Gray-line Propagation starts at 6:06 Local,
and ends 6:22am Local, defining a 16 min time window, where propagation was
completely in the Twilight Region. HOWEVER -- THIS ASSUMES THE ANGLE OF THE
GREAT CIRCLE PATH AND ANGLE OF THE TERMINATOR WAS THE SAME. Reality was
different.  

Since your 30m contact was at 6:05am Tucson, it was also 6:05pm at HEARD!!  

This means your Contact was 1 min. before HEARD ISLAND SUNSET!! 

SORRY -- You missed the Possible TRUE Gray-line propagation by 1 Min!!
Sounds like MY LUCK!!

You could argue the SR/SS Time Calendars are off by at least 1 min., which
is a reasonable argument, but there is another issue discussed below.  

The Sunrise Terminator angle was -2 degrees. The Great Circle Path was
either 185.4 deg short path, or + 5.4 deg. long path. 

Our data has shown, there was NO SHORT PATH AM PROPAGATION, and the reason
was due to a VERY LOW MUF near HEARTD in the Short Path during the AM. So,
your signal was most likely a long path signal.. This means your RF was
actually diverging from the Terminator at a 7.4 degree angle, towards the
North DAY region, almost all the way around earth to Heard Island. Your RF
would have been about 1545 mi away from the terminator (DAY side)at half way
around the world. 

Thus, my conclusion is -- this was NOT TRUE Gray-line Propagation. 

The lesson learned here, is that both stations could actually be IN THE
GRAYLINE, but if there is an angular difference between the Terminator and
the Great Circle path.. the signal may wander OUTSIDE of the Gray-line
during its propagation. The Gray-line Purists in the Group would say NO
GRAY-LINE propagation. 

I would refer to this propagation path as Terminator Enhanced Propagation. 

All of this will be covered in my PART 2 SADXA presentation on Oct 20th. 

Ray, Thanks so much for your response. I hope this explanation has value to
you and some members of the group.  

Best 73s, 

Bill W7EXG

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W2RS - Ray
Soifer via SADXA
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:42 AM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Cc: rsoifer1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Bill,


I worked VK0EK on 30 CW at 1305 on March 24th.  Does that count as grayline?


73 Ray W2RS (Green Valley)



-----Original Message-----
From: W7EXG (Bill) <W7EXG at q.com>
To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector' <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Thanks Wes.

With you in mind, I developed a very simple formula criteria and graphic
defining TRUE Gray-line Propagation window for any two stations adjacent to
the terminator at opposite time zones.   (TRUE meaning ALL propagation
within the Gray-line Twilight Zone) This will be shown in my October
presentation to the SADXA group. It will clearly show that NONE of the
Tucson PM propagation to Heard was TRUE Gray-line propagation. However, the
data will also show that in the morning, prior to Tucson Sunrise, TRUE
Gray-line propagation conditions existed, with the time window being a
function of the date. 

This will clearly differentiate the Gray-line Propagation as a sub-set of
Terminator Enhanced Propagation. For Heard, Terminator Enhanced Propagation
occurred mostly after Sunrise and always after Sunset Tucson Time. 

Your RTTY observation was more of a Terminator Enhanced Propagation, due to
lower D and lower E conditions and HIGH MUF less than 1 hour AFTER Tucson
Sunset, and Low D, Low E and increasing MUF about 1 hour AFTER Heard
Sunrise.   

Jerry, W6XI, may have the ONLY TRUE Gray-line QSO for the group. His 13:02
30m contact with HEARD on 4/5 was completely within the Twilight Region and
was only 4 min. before Tucson Sunrise. Hi Hi. W6XI may WIN "The Great Heard
Island TRUE Gray-line Propagation Prize"! Or GHITGLPP for short!! I am
looking for someone who will share this VERY coveted Prize with Jerry. 

73s, 

Bill W7EXG
 

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [SADXA] RESEND - VK0EK Heard Island Propagation Question - from
Bill W7EXG

Not me.

BTW, I did log an RTTY QSO on 30-meters at 0237Z our time but sadly they
logged 
N6WS.

On 9/10/2016 3:16 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> SORRY - COULD BE CONFUSION
> 	- LOOKING FOR VK0EK CONTACTS 30 min before Sunrise.
>
> QUESTION:
> 	For VK0EK Heard Island Enthusiasts
> FROM:
> 	Bill W7EXG
>
> RE: Heard Island Gray-line Propagation
>
> Did anyone work Heard Island [VK0EK] in the Morning within 30 minutes
> BEFORE Tucson Sunrise?
>
> I did NOT see anyone suggest a VK0EK contact on Reflector during this
time.
>
> If so, could you please provide me with your contact data?
>
> I am working on the October SADXA Tucson/Heard Island propagation
> Presentation - PART-2, and this data would have value.
>
> PS: Jerry [W6XI] privately reported a 30m contact 4 Min. before Sunrise on
> 4/5 UTC.
>
> Best 73s, and THANKS!
>
> Bill W7EXG
>
>

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From k6pf at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 13 01:20:33 2016
From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:20:33 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DCI-432-10-C Filter - SOLD
Message-ID: <27C5D39DDAEB4373A70685830AD05033@eolmachine>

The DCI filter has bn sold.
Tnx & 73,
Bob, K6PF


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob Kocisko 
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:18 PM
Subject: For Sale: DCI-432-10-C Filter


Since I'm not planning anymore on doing 70cm EME, I would like to sell my DCI-432-10C 4-pole bandpass filter. This is designed for weak signal (like EME) work centered on 432 MHz.  It's vy useable up to 437 MHz.  I'm using a 2m version of this DCI filter for 2m EME & hv it installed between my mast mounted LNA output & the xvtr RX input.  Here's some specs:

Center Freq - 432 MHz
Band Width - 10 MHz
SWR <1.3:1
Return Loss >18dB
Pwr Handling - 200 watts RMS
Impedance - 50 ohms
Connectors - N(f)
Weight - 5.2 lbs
Physical Dimensions - 12" W x 8.5" D x 3" H
S/N - 4426

There are 7 tuning screws & locking nuts out the back.  

http://dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur will take you to DCI's current production model which is a DCI-435-10C which sells new for $477.  The DCI-432-10C which is designed for the low end of the band is no longer produced.  Note this is NOT wx proofed & is NOT designed for outdoor use unless it's installed in a proper housing.  Mine were installed in a rack cabinet.  It's also NOT designed to xmit thru with high pwr.

I have photos available as well as pdf's of the xmission & reflection plots for both the DCI-435-10C & ones I made today of the DCI-432-10C using my VNA.  I'll be happy to email them to anyone interested.

Asking $225 + shipping fm 86323.  PayPal accepted.

Tnx & 73,
Bob, K6PF


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Fri Sep 16 22:33:56 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:33:56 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot ZA/ZA1P 7.007 Up 1 -2
Message-ID: <faa538a8-05bf-e8a5-f9b3-e2764cf33e6d@triconet.org>

Worked @ 0227Z


I can remember when this was as rare as N. Korea


From dickw1ksz at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 23:16:13 2016
From: dickw1ksz at gmail.com (Richard Solomon)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:16:13 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot ZA/ZA1P 7.007 Up 1 -2
In-Reply-To: <faa538a8-05bf-e8a5-f9b3-e2764cf33e6d@triconet.org>
References: <faa538a8-05bf-e8a5-f9b3-e2764cf33e6d@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <CAC5FBO9a+f-70N2aEzwZfdyP6+QgZ2nVw49aGcErgfbLZ5CfYw@mail.gmail.com>

China was equally as rare at one time.

What goes around, comes around.

73, Dick, w1KSZ

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws at triconet.org> wrote:

> Worked @ 0227Z
>
>
> I can remember when this was as rare as N. Korea
>
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From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 00:40:39 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:40:39 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
Message-ID: <9b67fef9-e48c-f950-9dd5-234b0bcdfa33@mindspring.com>

The team is still going strong after many hours of operations on 40.  NA 
only.  Up 3.

GL,  Jim  W9FI


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 00:44:59 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:44:59 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
In-Reply-To: <9b67fef9-e48c-f950-9dd5-234b0bcdfa33@mindspring.com>
References: <9b67fef9-e48c-f950-9dd5-234b0bcdfa33@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <ac868e72-35a6-291a-17af-0494cc7f4c4a@mindspring.com>

Two minutes after I posted this spot they shifted to VL/ZL/Oceania only.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
Date: 	Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:40:39 -0700
From: 	Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com>
To: 	Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>



The team is still going strong after many hours of operations on 40.  NA
only.  Up 3.

GL,  Jim  W9FI


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 00:47:24 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:47:24 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] Fwd: Re: ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
In-Reply-To: <ac868e72-35a6-291a-17af-0494cc7f4c4a@mindspring.com>
References: <ac868e72-35a6-291a-17af-0494cc7f4c4a@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <2c1b06a4-d283-8fdd-7383-1a579c1286cc@mindspring.com>

Now they've shifted again back to NA.  No more spots from me on this 
station.  This info become obsolete too quickly.

Jim  W9FI

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
Date: 	Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:44:59 -0700
From: 	Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com>
To: 	Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>



Two minutes after I posted this spot they shifted to VL/ZL/Oceania only.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	ZA/ZA1P on 7.007
Date: 	Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:40:39 -0700
From: 	Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com>
To: 	Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>



The team is still going strong after many hours of operations on 40.  NA
only.  Up 3.

GL,  Jim  W9FI


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sat Sep 17 19:22:16 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:22:16 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot : E51Q
Message-ID: <f087d884-4f78-c289-995d-f7867ec2be88@triconet.org>

Worked on 21034 up 1 @ 2317Z

Worked on 28034 up 1 @ 2319Z

One call each :-)


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 17 21:16:54 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:16:54 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] E51Q on 24.904
Message-ID: <c4a700da-a341-9676-96e7-e03d2d08885b@mindspring.com>

If you need S. Cook Islands on 12 meter CW, they're CQing now. Up 1.  No 
pileup.

GL,  Jim  W9FI


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sun Sep 18 14:59:37 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:59:37 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot: D66D 21020
Message-ID: <318611f9-19a1-0934-9f21-a2fa88939044@triconet.org>

Worked @ 1853Z on the first call, Up 1.6


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sun Sep 18 23:45:16 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:45:16 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] DX Spot: E51Q 20 SSB
Message-ID: <0fbfb4de-4140-2829-24e5-c22ea71380b3@triconet.org>

Voice ops rejoice

14205 Simplex @0335Z  Good signal.  One call.


From w7lb at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 22 16:36:59 2016
From: w7lb at earthlink.net (Larry Brown)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:36:59 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] Reminder of SADXA Picnic this Saturday
Message-ID: <00eb01d21511$1631de80$42959b80$@earthlink.net>

Here is a reminder of the SADXA picnic this Saturday ( Sept 24th)
being held at the Colonia Verde Club House starting about 3 PM.  A
map is posted on the SADXA website.   Hope to see everyone that
RSVP'd on Saturday.  If you wish to add your name to the list,
please contact  Steve Wood, W1SR.  His e-mail is: w1sr at arrl.net
and phone is 906-1204.

 

73,

 

Larry Brown, W7LB

SADXA Secretary/Treasurer

 

 



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From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Thu Sep 22 18:56:53 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:56:53 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] 160 meter propagation
Message-ID: <b5708766-2b5c-d220-c829-6c325c95e44a@triconet.org>

Bill,

Since you are the guru of the SADXA 160-meter propagation studies program I 
thought I would pass along the following:

This morning I worked V633KS at 1312Z, which coincidentally is the time of 
official sunrise.  He was actually stronger and the SNR was way better a few 
minutes later.

Prior to this, the QRN was running S8-9.  I suspect that the noise was primarily 
from the east and was attenuated with SR down to about S3.  He was an honest 
559, increasing to a peak of 579.

Being the equinox the terminator was almost exactly N-S and V6 is almost exactly 
due W (277 deg at a distance of about 5950 miles. Pretty good for a low (45') 
inverted-vee (ends at 6') that everyone "knows" only radiates straight up.


N6TR was still CQing at 1405Z when I had to leave, which I have to do now.

73,

Wes


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 24 23:11:42 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:11:42 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] H44GC on 18.070
Message-ID: <2fcf2361-0857-d42a-6cc7-7960fac25f30@mindspring.com>

CQing.  QSX 18.071.26

GL, Jim  W9FI


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 24 23:39:13 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:39:13 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] Publicity for the club
Message-ID: <c8d947d3-406d-fa5f-e22d-2f22a02b674e@mindspring.com>

Now that I've worked H44GC I got on their web page to find out about QSL 
information.  (FYI, they'll eventually send their QSOs to LotW, among 
other methods.)  As long as I was at their site I clicked on to the 
"Corporate and Club Sponsors" tab, and was happy to see our logo 
splashed across the bottom of the page as one of the donors.

Their operator is cranking out QSOs at a very fast rate right now on 17m 
CW, so it looks like our money went to a productive team.

Jim  W9FI


From wes_n7ws at triconet.org  Sun Sep 25 10:17:04 2016
From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:17:04 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] Publicity for the club
In-Reply-To: <c8d947d3-406d-fa5f-e22d-2f22a02b674e@mindspring.com>
References: <c8d947d3-406d-fa5f-e22d-2f22a02b674e@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <36831942-0f37-1ed8-490c-675f6e4ba95d@triconet.org>

As far as I'm concerned they're deaf on 80 and 40.

On 9/24/2016 8:39 PM, Jim W wrote:
> Now that I've worked H44GC I got on their web page to find out about QSL 
> information.  (FYI, they'll eventually send their QSOs to LotW, among other 
> methods.)  As long as I was at their site I clicked on to the "Corporate and 
> Club Sponsors" tab, and was happy to see our logo splashed across the bottom 
> of the page as one of the donors.
>
> Their operator is cranking out QSOs at a very fast rate right now on 17m CW, 
> so it looks like our money went to a productive team.
>
> Jim  W9FI 


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Sun Sep 25 12:14:47 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 09:14:47 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] VP6AH on 24.970
Message-ID: <46825c91-8f77-4b42-66b5-481598c84161@mindspring.com>

Good signal from Ulrich.  Up 5.

I asked him about any possible 80m activity and he said no.  His noise 
level on that band typically is S9+10 or 20.

Jim  W9FI


From w7rj at aol.com  Sun Sep 25 23:35:34 2016
From: w7rj at aol.com (w7rj at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 23:35:34 -0400
Subject: [SADXA] NYT Article about BY, BS7, and 9M0
Message-ID: <157648fe55c-338b-34fd@webprd-m83.mail.aol.com>


This was in the New York Times today; more about China's plans for some Spratly Islands and now Scarborough Reef.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/world/asia/philippines-south-china-sea.html?ref=world&_r=0

73/DX...............Russ-W7RJ



From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 26 15:52:59 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:52:59 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
Message-ID: <ecc7ee6b-f91d-98f7-5cbf-a64e663951e1@mindspring.com>

Does anybody have an extra USB computer mouse that they can donate to 
the club?  The laptop on which we do the presentations sometimes boots 
up without the internal mouse driver, whereas it works fine with an 
external USB mouse attached.  I have several mice with the old-fashioned 
PS2 connectors, but this computer doesn't have a jack that will fit them.

Please let me know if you can donate one.

Thanks and 73,  Jim  W9FI


From w6rll at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 16:03:37 2016
From: w6rll at yahoo.com (Joe Young)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 13:03:37 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
In-Reply-To: <ecc7ee6b-f91d-98f7-5cbf-a64e663951e1@mindspring.com>
References: <ecc7ee6b-f91d-98f7-5cbf-a64e663951e1@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <86462BB9-AC0F-4B5B-B7FC-0914512D2AF9@yahoo.com>

Hi Jim. Purchase what you need and send me the bill. 73 de Joe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anybody have an extra USB computer mouse that they can donate to the club?  The laptop on which we do the presentations sometimes boots up without the internal mouse driver, whereas it works fine with an external USB mouse attached.  I have several mice with the old-fashioned PS2 connectors, but this computer doesn't have a jack that will fit them.
> 
> Please let me know if you can donate one.
> 
> Thanks and 73,  Jim  W9FI
> 
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From w6rll at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 26 16:24:14 2016
From: w6rll at yahoo.com (Joe Young)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 13:24:14 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
In-Reply-To: <86462BB9-AC0F-4B5B-B7FC-0914512D2AF9@yahoo.com>
References: <ecc7ee6b-f91d-98f7-5cbf-a64e663951e1@mindspring.com>
	<86462BB9-AC0F-4B5B-B7FC-0914512D2AF9@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AB01D01F-0761-4569-BE60-1B8AF7B00D8F@yahoo.com>

Hi Jim. If I am not mistaken, I have a PC in my shed that the club can have. It sounds like the Club computer is not much of a PC. The computer that I have is a new W8 machine. I tried it out and put it back in the box. I don' t like W8 or W10. Let me know if the club can use it. We go to Tucson about every two weeks on average so I can deliver. Anything else needed while I am "exploring" in my shed? 
73 de Joe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Joe Young <w6rll at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim. Purchase what you need and send me the bill. 73 de Joe.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody have an extra USB computer mouse that they can donate to the club?  The laptop on which we do the presentations sometimes boots up without the internal mouse driver, whereas it works fine with an external USB mouse attached.  I have several mice with the old-fashioned PS2 connectors, but this computer doesn't have a jack that will fit them.
>> 
>> Please let me know if you can donate one.
>> 
>> Thanks and 73,  Jim  W9FI
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> SADXA Website http://www.sadxa.org
>> 
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>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/sadxa
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:SADXA at mailman.qth.net
>> 
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From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 28 12:39:52 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:52 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
Message-ID: <4c04eaaf-60e7-4046-e052-1d691469d80b@mindspring.com>

Thanks for your offer to pay for it, Joe.  I'm going to wait a couple of 
weeks before I buy one.  Someone still may be able to come up with a 
donation out of their junk box.

Regarding the computer, the club's laptop is a Windows 7 machine and 
it's perfectly useful to display presentations and run DVDs. It's just 
that sometimes it fails to start up with the internal mouse driver.  A 
reboot or two generally solves the problem, but meanwhile everybody is 
waiting for the equipment to run properly. In testing the PC at home, 
it's never failed to work properly when it's using the USB mouse that I 
borrowed from my own personal computer.  So thanks for your offer to 
donate a Win8 machine, but I think the problem will be inexpensively 
solved with just an external mouse.  If I don't hear from somebody by 
mid-October I'll go out and buy one.

Thanks and 73,  Jim  W9FI


From wysocki1 at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 28 12:51:53 2016
From: wysocki1 at mindspring.com (Jim W)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:51:53 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] KC0W's traveling DXpedition is now permanently QRT
Message-ID: <3ee7abc8-1fb1-242b-1d11-2b450e66dac8@mindspring.com>

Here's some news from Tom, KC0W.  He had a close encounter with some 
thieves.

"Cows over the World DXpedition now permanently QRT

"*EVERYTHING* I own was stolen last night from here in Kiribati. They 
even took my clothing & shoes. Radios, computers, antennas coax, all 
gone. Thanks for the 30,000+ QSOs. I will now immediately return back to 
the USA & regroup................ Very down but not out. I will return 
from somewhere interesting in the world (hopefully) by this winters 
160/80 meter DXing season.

"This /*really*/ sucks.

"Tom KC0W"

FYI from Jim  W9FI


From w6rll at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 13:28:50 2016
From: w6rll at yahoo.com (w6rll at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 17:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
In-Reply-To: <4c04eaaf-60e7-4046-e052-1d691469d80b@mindspring.com>
References: <4c04eaaf-60e7-4046-e052-1d691469d80b@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1075405783.2216007.1475083730438@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Jim. I checked here for extra USB "mice" but found none.73 de Joe.
 

    On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:51 AM, Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
 

 Thanks for your offer to pay for it, Joe.? I'm going to wait a couple of 
weeks before I buy one.? Someone still may be able to come up with a 
donation out of their junk box.

Regarding the computer, the club's laptop is a Windows 7 machine and 
it's perfectly useful to display presentations and run DVDs. It's just 
that sometimes it fails to start up with the internal mouse driver.? A 
reboot or two generally solves the problem, but meanwhile everybody is 
waiting for the equipment to run properly. In testing the PC at home, 
it's never failed to work properly when it's using the USB mouse that I 
borrowed from my own personal computer.? So thanks for your offer to 
donate a Win8 machine, but I think the problem will be inexpensively 
solved with just an external mouse.? If I don't hear from somebody by 
mid-October I'll go out and buy one.

Thanks and 73,? Jim? W9FI

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From keith at schlottmancpa.com  Wed Sep 28 13:30:32 2016
From: keith at schlottmancpa.com (Keith Schlottman, CPA, PFS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:30:32 -0700
Subject: [SADXA] USB computer mouse needed
In-Reply-To: <4c04eaaf-60e7-4046-e052-1d691469d80b@mindspring.com>
References: <4c04eaaf-60e7-4046-e052-1d691469d80b@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <CALciXvKi4R-y22vQvVUDMCah4gAFzx27GmYAyrSD7rDZYGR03A@mail.gmail.com>

Jim, I dug through my pile and found a USB mouse, it's actually a small
version designed to be more portable for laptop use.  I'd be happy to give
it to the club.

Thanks and 73,

Keith KR7RK

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Jim W <wysocki1 at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your offer to pay for it, Joe.  I'm going to wait a couple of
> weeks before I buy one.  Someone still may be able to come up with a
> donation out of their junk box.
>
> Regarding the computer, the club's laptop is a Windows 7 machine and it's
> perfectly useful to display presentations and run DVDs. It's just that
> sometimes it fails to start up with the internal mouse driver.  A reboot or
> two generally solves the problem, but meanwhile everybody is waiting for
> the equipment to run properly. In testing the PC at home, it's never failed
> to work properly when it's using the USB mouse that I borrowed from my own
> personal computer.  So thanks for your offer to donate a Win8 machine, but
> I think the problem will be inexpensively solved with just an external
> mouse.  If I don't hear from somebody by mid-October I'll go out and buy
> one.
>
> Thanks and 73,  Jim  W9FI
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
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