[SADXA] On the Air, Sort Of...3D2AG Rotuma, Legit or Not?

[Ron Jones]

Well put, Dick. Like you said, whatever is right for you.
I would add that throughout ham radio history, we have always used and
improved the latest technology. (CW, AM, SSB, digital, etc. etc) I see
remote controlled stations as just another example of hams jumping in and
pushing technology in interesting ways. Should the contacts you make with
your own remote station count toward awards? I don't see a big argument
there. Especially in this day and age with so many people living in
restricted areas. As far as using one of those $100 per hour mega stations
so you can nab that rare one, well, that is your call and I'm neutral about
it, as long as it is legal and doesn't break any of the rules that we all
have to live by.  Besides, if you are remoting into a station in New York,
you aren't blocking my receiver here in Arizona! HI HI

73 and good DX
Ron K7RJ

-----Original Message-----
From: SADXA [mailto:sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard
Solomon
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:58 PM
To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector
Subject: Re: [SADXA] On the Air, Sort Of...3D2AG Rotuma, Legit or Not?

My thinking on the DXCC Program is that
is personal. People will argue both sides,
much like Code vs No-Code, Incentive
licensing, SSB vs AM, Spark vs CW ....
and so it goes.

If you feel it is right for you and it's not
against any rules, then go for it.

What I can't stand is people who try to
impose their beliefs on you. That's why
today, one half of the world wants to kill the
other half of the world, all in the name of
God.

So it all boils down to a simplistic answer:

WFWL

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Wes (N7WS) <wes at triconet.org> wrote:

> I think ARRL has editorialized on this, but as I recall, they punted.
>
> So I think it's on you to decide.  But the fact that you're asking.....
>
>
>
> On 1/12/2016 3:28 PM, Keith Schlottman, CPA, PFS wrote:
>
>> I know this is a controversial topic, and I am very interested in hearing
>> any comments.
>>
>> Today I made my first QSO using a remoterig setup.  It's a nice setup,
>> using a K3S control head so it "feels" exactly like using a normal home
>> station.
>>
>> Except...the remoterig unit uses the internet to link me to another
>> station.  I used remotehamradio.com to connect to a W6 in San Jose, and
>> that station has a K3 on their end with a 500 watt amplifier and a
SteppIR
>> beam.
>>
>> Using the setup, I logged 3D2AG/p on Rotuma Island on 20m phone.  I used
>> an
>> Elecraft hand mic and it sounded to me just like I was working him from
my
>> old home station, no noticeable lag and just like a typical SSB contact
>> down in the noise. And while my station was linked to the W6 via the
>> internet, the connection from W6 to 3D was a completely normal rig-to-rig
>> RF contact complete with QSB, lids, band conditions etc.
>>
>> Rotuma isn't a total new one for me (have them on 10m CW), but it would
be
>> a new 20m and new phone entity for me.  The ARRL DXCC Desk has ruled that
>> they will allow DXCC credits for remote QSO's (as long as it's from the
>> same country, it would add to my total).
>>
>> When I had my home station, my own SteppIR setup, I had a more "purist"
>> attitude and would not have been interested in using a remote to any
>> station other than my own (in fact, I originally bought the remoterig
>> intending to use it to control my base from my office, but never actually
>> set it up).  But now I have no ability to set up a home station, and I'm
>> craving ham radio badly.  The remote stations seem like an opportunity to
>> chase DX and enjoy some radio, not the ideal situation but better than
>> nothing.  (I've also been using a portable go-box on occasion but that
has
>> its own challenges).
>>
>> I've also found a local setup which is only a couple of miles from my
>> home,
>> that has a remoterig setup with a tuned vertical, and the owner has given
>> me permission to use it.  Eventually I may try to locate a local site
>> where
>> I could put up my own remote station to operate from (anybody got space
>> for
>> another tower hihi).  Somehow it seems like I'd enjoy it more if I knew
it
>> was my own equipment setup and it was in my own town.
>>
>> Logging in to a remote setup has the obvious advantage of finding a
>> station
>> that has better propagation to the DX.  Somehow that makes me feel a bit
>> guilty about logging them.
>>
>> So...what do you guys think?  Is it OK to chase DX using remote setups?
Is
>> there a dividing line between acceptable versus going too far?
>>
>> 73 and gud DX
>>
>> Keith KR7RK
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