[SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
JERRY
jdwothe at cox.net
Wed Jun 26 19:10:32 EDT 2013
Well that was what I thought. Just think when things get really bad we
can have half the hams in town calling Gail. That should fill his day
with excitement.:-)
On 6/26/2013 3:49 PM, Cliff Hauser wrote:
> He is even technology qualified. Good choice.
>
> JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I figure that Gail being reasonably newly retired still has some spare
>> time on his hands. Us longer retired guys have filled all the available
>> time, and then some, with other projects needing attention.
>>
>> That makes him the perfect candidate for this very necessary, honorable
>> position.
>>
>>
>> On 6/26/2013 2:04 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
>>> Hey, I wanted to say, "third."
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 6/26/13, JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 3:01 PM
>>>> Voting is closed. Gail is it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/26/2013 1:59 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
>>>>> I'll second that ....
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Dick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Gail:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Tucson ever have an RFI team. I know in the
>>>> past RFI teams were
>>>>>> primarily out to get the ham out of the TV and
>>>> other devices but I wonder
>>>>>> if there was a group and if they got involved
>>>> locating other RFI sources. I
>>>>>> know someone who has some of the right equipment to
>>>> do RFI Fox hunting that
>>>>>> might be receptive to be invited to join a group
>>>> like that.
>>>>>> How about if you be the king of RFI?:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/26/2013 1:54 PM, n7bxx at q.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is it time to organist some sort of RFI group?
>>>> Might be fun/productive to
>>>>>>> get together for dinner some evening and see
>>>> what happens. I am sure
>>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gail N7BXX
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "JERRY" <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail
>>>> Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:49:54 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tom:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The noise issue is a messy one at best and now
>>>> days with all the
>>>>>>> electronics its very difficult to pin down what
>>>> is making the noise.
>>>>>>> Anyone who has tried to listen to the weak
>>>> signals for very long have
>>>>>>> run into the problem whether they know it or
>>>> not. The problem is far
>>>>>>> worse now than when I began in the 50s when
>>>> just about the only thing
>>>>>>> that made noise was the TV sets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Through the years I have had several cases of
>>>> various kinds of RFI and
>>>>>>> have had good success with Ferites with a
>>>> lot of the problems. Just the
>>>>>>> addition of adding a computer to the station is
>>>> introducing RFI. Then
>>>>>>> there are the peripherals for computers, like
>>>> printers, USB hubs,
>>>>>>> routers etc. Been there with all of them at one
>>>> time or the other.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I did not record with any of
>>>> those things sound like and
>>>>>>> would not now recognize many of them if I did
>>>> hear it. Some times I get
>>>>>>> noises one would say for sure is a power line
>>>> noise but isn't. The TEP
>>>>>>> guy from Tucson, who is now gone, a couple of
>>>> times came out and
>>>>>>> listened to what I was hearing and tracked the
>>>> items down even though we
>>>>>>> knew up front it was not Power line stuff. That
>>>> will never happen again
>>>>>>> I would bet. No anyway if the management knows
>>>> about it. Gary, the TEP,
>>>>>>> guy found a water heater thermostat causing
>>>> problems and it was over a
>>>>>>> quarter mile away. He also found a dog fence
>>>> causing a huge problem for
>>>>>>> me until he came up with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know Dick, W1KSZ, has looked at this a bit
>>>> and maybe someone in the
>>>>>>> club will come up with some of the
>>>> typical sounds for all the identify
>>>>>>> with. We will see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heard you on 6 last night calling Jimmy at V31
>>>> but did not hear you make
>>>>>>> a report. I did not hear a thing from him
>>>> when you were calling. I
>>>>>>> worked him a couple of days ago so that took
>>>> the pressure off. I also
>>>>>>> caught the VP2V/W9DR a very few minutes after
>>>> V31IV. They were both new
>>>>>>> ones for me, Nos 62 and 63 worked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any event I guess we will have to work
>>>> around the noise thing until
>>>>>>> something better comes along.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/25/2013 9:00 AM, Tom Kramer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>> A sad commentary on corporate
>>>> America but becoming more and more
>>>>>>>> common as companies simply ignore
>>>> regulations until they get litigated
>>>>>>>> in some way. However, my main objective is
>>>> to highlight this part of
>>>>>>>> your message:
>>>>>>>> ".. folks ... seem not to either know what
>>>> they are hearing..."
>>>>>>>> as that is often my problem. I get
>>>> all kinds of interference but have
>>>>>>>> a hard time deterring what it might be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not certain
>>>> how we might do this but a nifty club program would
>>>>>>>> be demonstrating what different RFI signals
>>>> might sound like, not just
>>>>>>>> power line, but plasma TVs, internet Wi-Fi,
>>>> washing machines etc. I
>>>>>>>> can with relative ease record what my
>>>> neighbors washing machine sounds
>>>>>>>> like on 6m ( and 17, 15,12,10, 2 and 222
>>>> mHz). Also can record the
>>>>>>>> Wi-Fi interference from my ISP on 160 ->
>>>> 10m. Can others in the
>>>>>>>> group record plasma TV RFI and other
>>>> interference that they can identify?
>>>>>>>> I just had an occurrence this
>>>> morning while running FSK441 Meteor
>>>>>>>> scatter on 2m. Suddenly was hit but
>>>> an S9 noise. Off the center
>>>>>>>> frequency it sounded like white noise but
>>>> tuning to the signal peak it
>>>>>>>> was pulsating. I got out my FT817 and
>>>> put on a 12 inch wire antenna
>>>>>>>> and walked my yard and near neighbors
>>>> houses only to discover it was
>>>>>>>> the USB hub on my own desktop. I could copy
>>>> it up to 100 ft away from
>>>>>>>> the shack. I use it to connect two
>>>> USB to serial adapters for
>>>>>>>> connecting my two main radios for computer
>>>> interface. Disconnected
>>>>>>>> the hub and connected the USB/serial
>>>> adapters direct to desktop ... no
>>>>>>>> RFI. BUT what's even more weird is
>>>> when I connected the USB hub to
>>>>>>>> the back of the computer and use it for the
>>>> keyboard and Wi-Fi modem
>>>>>>>> and ...NO RFI. Hard to figure out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JERRY"
>>>> <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Bob Coomler" <w7swl at yahoo.com>;
>>>> "Southern AZ DX Association
>>>>>>>> E-Mail Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bob:
>>>>>>>>> Well at issue here is we need folks
>>>> that have RFI to make a list of
>>>>>>>>> their issues and call them in so we
>>>> have something to work with.
>>>>>>>>> The problem I personally have is pretty
>>>> minor however there are folks
>>>>>>>>> much closer to a big noise source that
>>>> seem not to either know what
>>>>>>>>> they are hearing or it isn't a big
>>>> enough issue to do something. What
>>>>>>>>> I am afraid of is one of these days a
>>>> big source will show up and
>>>>>>>>> there is no quick path to resolve it as
>>>> there was when Gary was
>>>>>>>>> around. Going the route you suggest and
>>>> what is probably going to
>>>>>>>>> have to happen will take weeks and
>>>> maybe even months to resolve.
>>>>>>>>> I mentioned it a few month ago at radio
>>>> club before Gary retired and
>>>>>>>>> the reception was like a flock of deer
>>>> in the headlights. I just
>>>>>>>>> cannot believe no one in town has RFI
>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>>> It took Gary and I many months to track
>>>> down all the issues within
>>>>>>>>> about 2.5 miles of my place that I
>>>> could hear on one band or the
>>>>>>>>> other. Right now it is great but in
>>>> time that is going to change.
>>>>>>>>> I suspect TEP still has the equipment
>>>> Gary was using but in time I
>>>>>>>>> also know corporations send stuff not
>>>> being use to salvage, then when
>>>>>>>>> they need it, it wont be in the budget
>>>> so they cant go out and buy new.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2013 10:46 AM, Bob Coomler
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If you are an ARRL member, I'd
>>>> suggest contacting Mike Gruber, W1MG,
>>>>>>>>>> at the League headquarters. When I
>>>> was living in northern
>>>>>>>>>> California, PG&E kept blowing
>>>> off my complaints, but Mike was able
>>>>>>>>>> to work some magic and I had their
>>>> undivided attention. They ended
>>>>>>>>>> up bringing in an independent RFI
>>>> consultant from the east coast.
>>>>>>>>>> My problem was found, solved and
>>>> PG&E had the foresight to make it
>>>>>>>>>> an in-service for the staff. I
>>>> doubt that TEP would similarly
>>>>>>>>>> respond, but Mr. Gruber does seem
>>>> to get things done.
>>>>>>>>>> Bob W7SWL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________**__
>>>>>>>>>>> From: JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Southern AZ DX Association
>>>> E-Mail Reflector
>>>>>>>>>>> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013
>>>> 10:01 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF
>>>> amplifier for sale
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ted:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sad to say that TEP finds that
>>>> noise abatement by their power
>>>>>>>>>>> lines is
>>>>>>>>>>> no longer a concern to them.
>>>> They have not and do not intend to
>>>>>>>>>>> replace
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary. Our only first step is to
>>>> contact TEP and file an RFI
>>>>>>>>>>> complaint. I
>>>>>>>>>>> have done that and they blew it
>>>> off without even a reply. Then if I
>>>>>>>>>>> understand the process we are
>>>> to file a compliant with the state but I
>>>>>>>>>>> am not sure who as I have not
>>>> looked into it. If that does not get
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> off the dime then we are to
>>>> file a complaint with the FCC outlining
>>>>>>>>>>> dates and who we have contacted
>>>> regarding the RFI.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would hope it doesn't get to
>>>> that but it might in order for them to
>>>>>>>>>>> get someone in that position.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the tower, it is
>>>> sold.
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW to put that tower up in
>>>> Pima county would be just about impossible
>>>>>>>>>>> with the situation we find
>>>> ourselves in with the county.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2013 9:49 AM, Theodore
>>>> DOWNING wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good to see you at SADXA
>>>> and an interesting talk. I am ready to move
>>>>>>>>>>>> out into the boondocks
>>>> after returning home to listen to the urban
>>>>>>>>>>>> noise. Who is the
>>>> contact point in TEP now that Gary has retired?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, do you still have
>>>> Donny's tower? I may be interested if it
>>>>>>>>>>>> has engineering
>>>> papers...for my new place in the boonies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted w7key
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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