[SADXA] HF amplifier for sale

Bob Coomler w7swl at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 26 17:12:24 EDT 2013 

Huzzah!

Bob W7SWL



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> From: JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net> 
>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
> 
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>I figure that Gail being reasonably newly retired still has some spare 
>time on his hands. Us longer retired guys have filled all the available 
>time, and then some, with other projects needing attention.
>
>That makes him the perfect candidate for this very necessary, honorable 
>position.
>
>
>On 6/26/2013 2:04 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
>> Hey, I wanted to say, "third."
>>
>> --- On Wed, 6/26/13, JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 3:01 PM
>>> Voting is closed. Gail is it!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/26/2013 1:59 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
>>>> I'll second that ....
>>>>
>>>> 73, Dick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Gail:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Tucson ever have an RFI team. I know in the
>>> past RFI teams were
>>>>> primarily out to get the ham out of the TV and
>>> other devices but I wonder
>>>>> if there was a group and if they got involved
>>> locating other RFI sources. I
>>>>> know someone who has some of the right equipment to
>>> do RFI Fox hunting that
>>>>> might be receptive to be invited to join a group
>>> like that.
>>>>> How about if you be the king of RFI?:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/26/2013 1:54 PM, n7bxx at q.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> is it time to organist some sort of RFI group?
>>> Might be fun/productive to
>>>>>> get together for dinner some evening and see
>>> what happens.  I am sure
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gail N7BXX
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "JERRY" <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail
>>> Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:49:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The noise issue is a messy one at best and now
>>> days with all the
>>>>>> electronics its very difficult to pin down what
>>> is making the noise.
>>>>>> Anyone who has tried to listen to the weak
>>> signals  for very long have
>>>>>> run into the problem whether they know it or
>>> not. The problem is far
>>>>>> worse now than when I began in the 50s when
>>> just about the only thing
>>>>>> that made noise was  the TV sets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Through the years I have had several cases of
>>> various kinds of RFI and
>>>>>> have had  good success with Ferites with a
>>> lot of the problems. Just the
>>>>>> addition of adding a computer to the station is
>>> introducing RFI. Then
>>>>>> there are the peripherals for computers, like
>>> printers, USB hubs,
>>>>>> routers etc. Been there with all of them at one
>>> time or the other.
>>>>>> Unfortunately I did not record with any of
>>> those things sound like and
>>>>>> would not now recognize many of them if I did
>>> hear it. Some times I get
>>>>>> noises one would say for sure is a power line
>>> noise but isn't. The TEP
>>>>>> guy from Tucson, who is now gone, a couple of
>>> times came out and
>>>>>> listened to what I was hearing and tracked the
>>> items down even though we
>>>>>> knew up front it was not Power line stuff. That
>>> will never happen again
>>>>>> I would bet. No anyway if the management knows
>>> about it. Gary, the TEP,
>>>>>> guy found a water heater thermostat causing
>>> problems and it was over a
>>>>>> quarter mile away. He also found a dog fence
>>> causing a huge problem  for
>>>>>> me until he came up with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know Dick, W1KSZ, has looked at this a bit
>>> and maybe someone in the
>>>>>> club will come up with some of the
>>> typical sounds for all the identify
>>>>>> with. We will see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard you on 6 last night calling Jimmy at V31
>>> but did not hear you make
>>>>>> a report. I did not hear a  thing from him
>>> when you were calling. I
>>>>>> worked him a couple of days ago so that took
>>> the pressure off. I also
>>>>>> caught the VP2V/W9DR a very few minutes after
>>> V31IV. They were both new
>>>>>> ones for me, Nos 62 and 63 worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any event I guess we will have to work
>>> around the noise thing until
>>>>>> something better comes along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/25/2013 9:00 AM, Tom Kramer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>      A sad commentary on corporate
>>> America but becoming more and more
>>>>>>> common as companies simply ignore
>>> regulations until they get litigated
>>>>>>> in some way. However, my main objective is
>>> to highlight this part of
>>>>>>> your message:
>>>>>>> ".. folks ... seem not to either know what
>>> they are hearing..."
>>>>>>> as that is often my problem.  I get
>>> all kinds of interference but have
>>>>>>> a hard time deterring what it might be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       I am not certain
>>> how we might do this but a nifty club program would
>>>>>>> be demonstrating what different RFI signals
>>> might sound like, not just
>>>>>>> power line, but plasma TVs, internet Wi-Fi,
>>> washing machines etc.  I
>>>>>>> can with relative ease record what my
>>> neighbors washing machine sounds
>>>>>>> like on 6m ( and 17, 15,12,10, 2 and 222
>>> mHz).  Also can record the
>>>>>>> Wi-Fi interference from my ISP on 160 ->
>>> 10m.   Can others in the
>>>>>>> group record plasma TV RFI and other
>>> interference that they can identify?
>>>>>>>      I just had an occurrence this
>>> morning while running FSK441 Meteor
>>>>>>> scatter on 2m.  Suddenly was hit but
>>> an S9 noise.  Off the center
>>>>>>> frequency it sounded like white noise but
>>> tuning to the signal peak it
>>>>>>> was pulsating.  I got out my FT817 and
>>> put on a 12 inch wire antenna
>>>>>>> and walked my yard and near neighbors
>>> houses only to discover it was
>>>>>>> the USB hub on my own desktop. I could copy
>>> it up to 100 ft away from
>>>>>>> the shack.  I use it to connect two
>>> USB to serial adapters for
>>>>>>> connecting my two main radios for computer
>>> interface.   Disconnected
>>>>>>> the hub and connected the USB/serial
>>> adapters direct to desktop ... no
>>>>>>> RFI.  BUT what's even more weird is
>>> when I connected the USB hub to
>>>>>>> the back of the computer and use it for the
>>> keyboard and Wi-Fi modem
>>>>>>> and ...NO RFI.  Hard to figure out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JERRY"
>>> <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Bob Coomler" <w7swl at yahoo.com>;
>>> "Southern AZ DX Association
>>>>>>> E-Mail Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:27 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF amplifier for sale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Bob:
>>>>>>>> Well at issue here is we need folks
>>> that have RFI to make a list of
>>>>>>>> their issues and call them in so we
>>> have something to work with.
>>>>>>>> The problem I personally have is pretty
>>> minor however there are folks
>>>>>>>> much closer to a big noise source that
>>> seem not to either know what
>>>>>>>> they are hearing or it isn't a big
>>> enough issue to do something. What
>>>>>>>> I am afraid of is one of these days a
>>> big source will show up and
>>>>>>>> there is no quick path to resolve it as
>>> there was when Gary was
>>>>>>>> around. Going the route you suggest and
>>> what is probably going to
>>>>>>>> have to happen will take weeks and
>>> maybe even months to resolve.
>>>>>>>> I mentioned it a few month ago at radio
>>> club before Gary retired and
>>>>>>>> the reception was like a flock of deer
>>> in the headlights. I just
>>>>>>>> cannot believe no one in town has RFI
>>> problems.
>>>>>>>> It took Gary and I many months to track
>>> down all the issues within
>>>>>>>> about 2.5 miles of my place that I
>>> could hear on one band or the
>>>>>>>> other. Right now it is great but in
>>> time that is going to change.
>>>>>>>> I suspect TEP still has the equipment
>>> Gary was using but in time I
>>>>>>>> also know corporations send stuff not
>>> being use to salvage, then when
>>>>>>>> they need it, it wont be in the budget
>>> so they cant go out and buy new.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2013 10:46 AM, Bob Coomler
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If you are an ARRL member, I'd
>>> suggest contacting Mike Gruber, W1MG,
>>>>>>>>> at the League headquarters. When I
>>> was living in northern
>>>>>>>>> California, PG&E kept blowing
>>> off my complaints, but Mike was able
>>>>>>>>> to work some magic and I had their
>>> undivided attention.  They ended
>>>>>>>>> up bringing in an independent RFI
>>> consultant from the east coast.
>>>>>>>>> My problem was found, solved and
>>> PG&E had the foresight to make it
>>>>>>>>> an in-service for the staff. I
>>> doubt that TEP would similarly
>>>>>>>>> respond, but Mr. Gruber does seem
>>> to get things done.
>>>>>>>>> Bob W7SWL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     ______________________________**__
>>>>>>>>>> From: JERRY <jdwothe at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Southern AZ DX Association
>>> E-Mail Reflector
>>>>>>>>>> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013
>>> 10:01 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] HF
>>> amplifier for sale
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ted:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sad to say that TEP finds that
>>> noise abatement  by their power
>>>>>>>>>> lines is
>>>>>>>>>> no longer a concern to them.
>>> They have not and do not intend to
>>>>>>>>>> replace
>>>>>>>>>> Gary. Our only first step is to
>>> contact TEP and file an RFI
>>>>>>>>>> complaint. I
>>>>>>>>>> have done that and they blew it
>>> off without even a reply. Then if I
>>>>>>>>>> understand the process we are
>>> to file a compliant with the state but I
>>>>>>>>>> am not sure who as I have not
>>> looked into it. If that does not get
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> off the dime then we are to
>>> file a complaint with the FCC outlining
>>>>>>>>>> dates and who we have contacted
>>> regarding the RFI.
>>>>>>>>>> I would hope it doesn't get to
>>> that but it might in order for them to
>>>>>>>>>> get someone in that position.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the tower, it is
>>> sold.
>>>>>>>>>> BTW to put that tower up in
>>> Pima county would be just about impossible
>>>>>>>>>> with the situation we find
>>> ourselves in with the county.
>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/23/2013 9:49 AM, Theodore
>>> DOWNING wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good to see you at SADXA
>>> and an interesting talk. I am ready to move
>>>>>>>>>>> out into the boondocks
>>> after returning home to listen to the urban
>>>>>>>>>>> noise.  Who is the
>>> contact point in TEP now that Gary has retired?
>>>>>>>>>>> Second, do you still have
>>> Donny's tower?  I may be interested if it
>>>>>>>>>>> has engineering
>>> papers...for my new place in the boonies.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted w7key
>>>>>>>>>>>
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