[SADXA] My Tower

Jerry Wothe jdwothe at cox.net
Sat Apr 25 22:50:55 EDT 2009 

I think Dick is right on that. You might have to talk fast to the neighbors 
however.

That is a special use permit or a variance permit, or something like that.

The hardest thing to accept with the zone and permit folks is how incredibly 
biased and ignorant on the subject of towers, antennas, and actually what 
the rules are and  then stating them that way instead of the way they would 
like it.

Jerry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <k5rr at aol.com>
To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower


>I think you can.? I wouldn't bet on it getting approved unless you have a 
>very good relationship with your neighbors.
>
> Dick,K5RR

> -----Original Message-----
> From: D ANDERSEN <w7dddd at msn.com>
> To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 7:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower

> In the past we could ask for a varience for this type of tower.  Can we 
> still
> apply for one?
>
>
> Don w7dd w6aa
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>> 1. 2009 Seventh Area QSO Party May 2-3, 2009 (KE7DX)
>> 2. Re: My Tower (RICHARD SOLOMON)
>> 3. Re: My Tower (Jerry Wothe)
>> 4. Re: My Tower (k5rr at aol.com)
>> 5. Re: My Tower (Jerry Wothe)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:11:50 -0400
>> From: KE7DX <ke7dx at marketemporium.com>
>> Subject: [SADXA] 2009 Seventh Area QSO Party May 2-3, 2009
>> To: k7rst at mailman.qth.net, sadxa at mailman.qth.net,
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>> This email is to notify you and your fellow club members that the Fourth
> Annual
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>> May 3
>> (6am thru Midnight local MST on Saturday May 3).
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>> Work
>> stations once per band/mode. 7th area mobiles (and those participating in
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>> counties. New rules this year also allow digital qso's for same point 
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> cw
>> qso's.
>>
>> Full Rules and much other info is available at the 7QP website:
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>>
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>> yrs.
> In
>> fact, the first year, 2006, it had more activity than any first year of 
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>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:42:54 +0000
>> From: RICHARD SOLOMON <w1ksz at q.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> To: SADXA <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID: <BAY130-W531C0559D305D32BC8B0DDE0730 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
>> Someone at Dayton will buy that thing, and get a good deal. I don't
>>
>> think they want to ship it back.
>>
>> >From the looks of the site where they placed it, permit restrictions
>>
>> must be pretty loose !!
>>
>> That hole for the base was a tad big, if you dug one of those here
>>
>> you would probably strike oil !!
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>>
>> > To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
>> > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:59:46 -0400
>> > From: k5rr at aol.com
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
> www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things from
> Japan.? What must that cost?!
>> >
>> > 73, Dick
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> > To: Southe
> rn AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dick:
>> >
>> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at 
>> > the
>> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
>> >
>> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
>> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
>> >
>> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be 
>> > several
>> > tons.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> > > These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. 
>> > > market for
>
>> > > these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
>> > > Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
>> > >
>> > > Dick
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> > > To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
>> > > Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
>> > > Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjustable 
>> > > for the
>
>> > > right
>> > > angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
>> > >
>> > > Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
>> > >
>> > > Full height 168'
>> > > Nested 44'
>> > > 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
>> > > 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
>> > > 82" across the bottom.
>> > > 6 sections,
>> > > 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all 
>> > > the
>> > > elements when it stops.
>> > >
>> > > I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima 
>> > > would
>> > > have a
>> > > cow.
>> > >
>> > > That is what I call a real tower.
>> > >
>> > > It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
>> > >
>> > > They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly 
>> > > worth
>> > > considering.
>> > >
>> > > Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
>> > >
>> > > Why
> stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
>> > >
>> > > 73's
>> > > Jerry
>> > > W6XI
>> > >
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:48:17 -0700
>> From: "Jerry Wothe" <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector"
>> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
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>> Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all 
>> the
>> time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
>> about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more as 
>> I
>> don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
>> thinks this one would be.
>>
>> I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
>> few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
>>
>> 73's
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>>
>>
>> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
>> > www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things 
>> > from
>> > Japan.? What must that cost?!
>> >
>> > 73, Dick
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dick:
>> >
>> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at
>> > the
>> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
>> >
>> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
>> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
>> >
>> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be 
>> > several
>> > tons.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market
>> >> for
>> >> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
>> >> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
>> >>
>> >> Dick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> >> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.
> qth.net
>> >> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
>> >> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjustable for
>> >> the
>> >> right
>> >> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
>> >>
>> >> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
>> >>
>> >> Full height 168'
>> >> Nested 44'
>> >> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
>> >> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
>> >> 82" across the bottom.
>> >> 6 sections,
>> >> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all 
>> >> the
>> >> elements when it stops.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima 
>> >> would
>> >> have a
>> >> cow.
>> >>
>> >> That is what I call a real tower.
>> >>
>> >> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
>> >>
>> >> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly 
>> >> worth
>> >> considering.
>> >>
>> >> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
>> >>
>> >> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
>> >>
>> >> 73's
>> >> Jerry
>> >> W6XI
>> >>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:04:05 -0400
>> From: k5rr at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <8CB940080B09157-F5C-275E at webmail-md11.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>> I?think for what you'd have to pay for one of these things you could get 
>> a
> rotating steel pole.? I think I'd rather go that route.? Fortunately, Pima
> County keeps our impulses in check.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 1:48 pm
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all 
>> the
>> time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
>> about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more as 
>> I
>> don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
>> thinks this one would be.
>>
>> I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
>> few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
>>
>> 73's
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>>
>>
>> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
>> > www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going
> to ship these things from
>> > Japan.? What must that cost?!
>> >
>> > 73, Dick
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dick:
>> >
>> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at
>> > the
>> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
>> >
>> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
>> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
>> >
>> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be 
>> > several
>> > tons.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market
>> >> for
>> >> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
>> >> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
>> >>
>> >> Dick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> >> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
>> >> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
>> >> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjusta
>> ble for
>> >> the
>> >> right
>> >> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
>> >>
>> >> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
>> >>
>> >> Full height 168'
>> >> Nested 44'
>> >> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
>> >> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
>> >> 82" across the bottom.
>> >> 6 sections,
>> >> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all 
>> >> the
>> >> elements when it stops.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima 
>> >> would
>> >> have a
>> >> cow.
>> >>
>> >> That is what I call a real tower.
>> >>
>> >> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
>> >>
>> >> They have others less impressive t
> ower, like, 145' and 118', hardly worth
>> >> considering.
>> >>
>> >> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
>> >>
>> >> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
>> >>
>> >> 73's
>> >> Jerry
>> >> W6XI
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>> >> SADXA Website http://www.sadxa.org
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:30:02 -0700
>> From: "Jerry Wothe" <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector"
>> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID: <206D283EEF2C44368768BDF5C1FDF9C1 at garage>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I have not seen a pole with that kind of wind load rating but I am sure
>> they are around.
>>
>> You are right about Pima County. Those guys are such a wonderful bunch, 
>> they
>> are looking out for our best interests.
>>
>> If I walked in and told them I was planning to put that tower up, they 
>> would
>> probably have a cow.
>>
>> Some day when we are together I will tell you a story about a guy in
>> Prescott that went in and told the permit folks he was going to put up a 
>> 90'
>> tower in a 35' zone. They said you cant do that. In the end he got a
>> permit.
>>
>> Great Stories.
>>
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>>
>>
>> > I?think for what you'd have to pay for one of these things you could 
>> > get a
>> > rotating steel pole.? I think I'd rather go that route.? Fortunately, 
>> > Pima
>> > County keeps our impulses in check.
>> >
>> > Dick
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 1:48 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all 
>> > the
>> > time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
>> > about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more 
>> > as I
>> > don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
>> > thinks this one would be.
>> >
>> > I missed
> that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
>> > few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
>> >
>> > 73's
>> > Jerry
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >
>> >
>> >> Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
>> >> www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things
>> >> from
>> >> Japan.? What must that cost?!
>> >>
>> >> 73, Dick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> >> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector 
>> >> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
>> >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Dick:
>> >>
>> >> Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks 
>> >> at
>> >> the
>> >> size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
>> >>
>> >> It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
>> >> neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
>> >>
>> >> I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be 
>> >> several
>> >> tons.
>> >>
>> >> Jerry
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
>> >> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. 
>> >>> market
>> >>> for
>> >>> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
>> >>> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
>> >>>
>> >>> Dick
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
>> >>> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
>> >>> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
>> >>> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjusta
>> > ble for
>> >>> the
>> >>> right
>> >>> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
>> >>>
>> >>> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
>>
> >>>
>> >>> Full height 168'
>> >>> Nested 44'
>> >>> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
>> >>> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
>> >>> 82" across the bottom.
>> >>> 6 sections,
>> >>> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all 
>> >>> the
>> >>> elements when it stops.
>> >>>
>> >>> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima
>> >>> would
>> >>> have a
>> >>> cow.
>> >>>
>> >>> That is what I call a real tower.
>> >>>
>> >>> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
>> >>>
>> >>> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly
>> >>> worth
>> >>> considering.
>> >>>
>> >>> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
>> >>>
>> >>> 73's
>> >>> Jerry
>> >>> W6XI
>> >>>
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