From gjurrens at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 18:11:02 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:11:02 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Why you should get an SDR!
Message-ID: <9D363948-8C94-48D6-A1D9-9D980A540FDC@gmail.com>

Nice blog post from a very happy owner in the UK! 73,

GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity


From gjurrens at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 18:35:44 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:35:44 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Why you should get an SDR!
In-Reply-To: <9D363948-8C94-48D6-A1D9-9D980A540FDC@gmail.com>
References: <9D363948-8C94-48D6-A1D9-9D980A540FDC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49650C3E-A7D8-452F-9DA6-47F91F161B48@gmail.com>

Link:

http://m.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/mixed-signals-10000051/software-defined-radio-makes-for-a-happy-hack-10025330/


GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity


On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Gerry Jurrens <gjurrens at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice blog post from a very happy owner in the UK! 73,
> 
> GJ
> Sent from my iPhone4
> Pls 4give typos & brevity
> 

From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Feb  2 09:10:48 2012
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:10:48 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Oh boy
Message-ID: <4F2A9968.70609@bdboyle.com>

ARL forty six to Mike KB2VRM and Brian N2MPM.

Live long and prosper, gentlemen!

-- 
Bryan
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.
Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Sent from my MacBook Pro.

From n2gj at amsat.org  Thu Feb  2 09:35:18 2012
From: n2gj at amsat.org (N2GJ_AMSAT)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:35:18 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Happy Birthday, Mr. President!
Message-ID: <CAO2dfsqPu6B9Rbw4UXvKvUvD_2DXDMhDGqs0_jUOF6Je68Kimg@mail.gmail.com>

Today, 2/2 is Mike KB2VRM's birthday!  ARL FORTY SIX, Mike!  73,

GJ

Gerry Jurrens N2GJ
mailto:n2gj at amsat.org

From n2gj at amsat.org  Thu Feb  2 09:47:31 2012
From: n2gj at amsat.org (N2GJ_AMSAT)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:47:31 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] * Brian Boccardi N2MPM 2/2 Birthday!
Message-ID: <CAO2dfsqcLiNDcDLuKMHV9aFLOdVHU4QvbW+cnAJpKE=0mGhAwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Happiest of happy birthdays to our other birthday boy today, Brian, N2MPM!
All the best in the years to come!  73,

GJ

Gerry Jurrens N2GJ
mailto:n2gj at amsat.org

From kc2vrj at gmail.com  Thu Feb  2 12:56:19 2012
From: kc2vrj at gmail.com (Paul Nannery)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:56:19 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Repeater info
Message-ID: <CAJ+g-fFoRb7Y7oivgwb+_LmDgpHci0HoHUqkiZkAQ4oTCG3Mgg@mail.gmail.com>

Repeaters down for sofware upgrade should be back by pm drive time.

Paul nannery
Kc2vrj

From n2gj at amsat.org  Thu Feb  2 22:26:44 2012
From: n2gj at amsat.org (N2GJ_AMSAT)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:26:44 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] FW: [W2ZQ Membership] Amateur Radio Technician Class License
 Course for Scouts, Leaders and Parents.
In-Reply-To: <0LYS00CZARUETF70@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0LYS00CZARUETF70@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <CAO2dfsryvpXeo+SwFNiBNwn==dQAsETv_QkegCOxCZp9-Gs+oQ@mail.gmail.com>

------------------------------

*From:* w2zq-membership at googlegroups.com [mailto:
w2zq-membership at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Wilson
*Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:17 PM
*To:* Gary Wilson
*Subject:* [W2ZQ Membership] Amateur Radio Technician Class License Course
for Scouts, Leaders and Parents.****

** **

I hope you had fun learning about Amateur Radio at our Radio Merit Badge
Day.  Mercer Area District will have a radio-themed Fall Camporee this
year, so this is a great time to get your Amateur Radio License!****

** **

As we mentioned during the course, you now know about half the answers for
the FCC Technician License exam.  To help you learn the rest and pass the
test to get your own FCC Amateur Radio License and callsign, the following
free course is being offered to Scouts, leaders and parents.  To sign up or
for information about the course, contact Don Wright at aa2f at arrl.net ****

** **

You can also get more information about Amateur Radio at
http://www.wedothat-radio.org/  Local ham clubs in ****Mercer**
**County****are
www.w2zq.com and  http://www.n2re.org/ .****

** **

See you on the air!****

** **

73****

** **

Gary Wilson, K2GW****

Radio Merit Badge Counselor****

K2gw at arrl.net****

** **

** **

  *DVRA Offers Free Amateur Radio Licensing Course*


Would you like to help your country in times of emergency?  Do you want to
understand more about communications technology?  Have you always wanted an
Amateur Radio License and didn't know where to start?  ****

** **

Now it's easier than ever with a *free* local Amateur Radio licensing
course sponsored by the Delaware Valley Radio Association (DVRA).  The
course will teach you how to pass the simple 35-question multiple-choice
test needed to get your Federal Communications Commission Amateur Radio
license.  Knowledge of Morse code is *not* required for this license and
there is no minimum age requirement.****

** **

The course will begin Friday February 10th in Pennington with six Friday
night classes from 7:30 to 9:00 PM, ending with an exam session.  It will
be held in Room 208 of the Pennington Presbyterian Church, ****13 South
Main Street**, **Pennington**, **NJ****.   While the course is free, the
textbook costs $18, payable at the first class.  There is also a nominal
cost of $15 to take the FCC license exam, payable at the test session
ending the course.****

** **

To register and for other questions, please contact the DVRA?s Education
Director, Don Wright, at 609-737-1723 or via e-mail at aa2f at arrl.net.****

** **

With over an active membership and a fully equipped radio station, the
Delaware Valley Radio Association is one of the nation?s oldest radio
clubs, having been founded in 1930.  Persons interested in learning more
about Amateur Radio are encouraged to visit the club?s website at W2ZQ.com
or attend any regular meeting of the club.  The DVRA meets the second
Wednesday of each month at 7:30 PM at Our Lady of Good Counsel Church, ****137
West Upper Ferry Road, West** **Trenton**, **NJ****.  The church is located
one-quarter mile west of the intersection of routes 634 and 579, and is
just south of ****Mercer** **County** **Airport********

** **

** **

** **

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From kb2vrm at embarqmail.com  Thu Feb  2 23:11:05 2012
From: kb2vrm at embarqmail.com (Mike Christiansen)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 23:11:05 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Happy Birthday, Mr. President!
In-Reply-To: <CAO2dfsqPu6B9Rbw4UXvKvUvD_2DXDMhDGqs0_jUOF6Je68Kimg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2dfsqPu6B9Rbw4UXvKvUvD_2DXDMhDGqs0_jUOF6Je68Kimg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018501cce229$d98c2a40$8ca47ec0$@com>

Thanks!

 

From: gjurrens at gmail.com [mailto:gjurrens at gmail.com] On Behalf Of N2GJ_AMSAT
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:35 AM
To: rvrc at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Mike Christiansen
Subject: Happy Birthday, Mr. President!

 

Today, 2/2 is Mike KB2VRM's birthday!  ARL FORTY SIX, Mike!  73,

GJ

Gerry Jurrens N2GJ
mailto:n2gj at amsat.org


From marvbrons at verizon.net  Fri Feb  3 10:56:52 2012
From: marvbrons at verizon.net (Marvin Bronstein)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:56:52 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] WorldRadio founder  SK
Message-ID: <4AD128840DD8489B8D626B502B177EE0@marvbronsPC>

Thursday, February 2, 2012
WorldRadio Founder Armond Noble, N6WR, Silent Key 
Armond Noble, N6WR, founder and publisher of WorldRadio magazine for 37 years, died February 1 in Sacramento, California after a short illness.

Noble, publisher of Sacramento-based International Travel News magazine, was hospitalized about two months ago, according to Editor David Tykol, <http://www.intltravelnews.com/>.
WorldRadio was published monthly from July 1971 until the end of 2008, when Noble sold the magazine to Hicksville, New York-based CQ Communications, Inc. With its February 2009 edition, it was renamed WorldRadio Online and became the first online-only major amateur radio publication.
Noble had a long and distinguished career in communications. From 1953 to 1955 he served in the U.S. Army with a VHF radio relay unit. He went on to positions at commercial radio and TV stations around the United States, including: KTWO-TV and KATI in Casper, Wyoming; KOOK-TV, Billings, Montana; KTVB, Boise, Idaho; KERO-TV, Bakersfield, California, WOOD-TV, Grand Rapids, Michigan, and KCRA Radio in Sacramento.
During the Vietnam War, Noble was a reporter-photographer for TIME magazine and the Milwaukee Journal. He also served in the TIME-LIFE bureau in Sacramento.

From drumor at optonline.net  Fri Feb  3 12:28:31 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:28:31 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] FW: School Club Roundup February 13-17 and other news
In-Reply-To: <20120203165955.E8A6925E36@bmail.arrl.org>
References: <20120203165955.E8A6925E36@bmail.arrl.org>
Message-ID: <00ee01cce299$402f7f30$c08e7d90$@optonline.net>

 

 

From: ARRL Education Services [mailto:memberlist at www.arrl.org] 
Subject: School Club Roundup February 13-17 and other news

 

Greetings!

 

Just a few notes to remind you that the next School Club Roundup is
approaching February 13-17.  You'll find all the information you need about
this contest on our website at  www.arrl.org/school-club-roundup-scr,
including some valuable advice for teachers who are getting students
organized to participate for the first time.

 

You might also want to check out a new flyer ARRL has just released telling
kids about "22 Things You Can Do With Amateur Radio."  Check it out in our
Forms & Media Warehouse at:
www.arrl.org/shop/Ham-Radio-Youth-flyer-pack-of-25/

 

The schedule for 2012 Teachers Institute on Wireless Technology seminars has
been announced. Go to www.arrl.org/teachers-institute-on-wireless-technology
for details and to download an application.  Currently, we do not have
confirmation on funding for the proposed session of TI-2 on Space on the
Classroom. Check the website in a few weeks for an update on status.

 

73,

Debra

 

Debra Johnson, K1DMJ

Education Services Manager

ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio(r)

225 Main Street

Newington, CT 06111-1494

(860) 594-0296

Fax: (860) 594-0259

 <mailto:djohnson at arrl.org> djohnson at arrl.org

 

 

To unsubscribe from messages, go to:
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From drumor at optonline.net  Fri Feb  3 12:40:53 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:40:53 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Eric NW2P's status
Message-ID: <00fa01cce29a$fd0d4cd0$f727e670$@optonline.net>

I spoke with Susan this afternoon and she says Eric is still in the
Intensive Care Unit and bundled up like a snowman (probably so he doesn't
escape, lol). They are trying to find a balance between his dialysis needs
and his Blood pressure levels. He is progressing as well as can be expected.

73
Drew


From drumor at optonline.net  Sun Feb  5 14:38:33 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:38:33 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Technician Class Cram session and exam
Message-ID: <018501cce43d$bf6691d0$3e33b570$@optonline.net>

There is a Cram session for the Technician license given by the American Red
Cross located at 695 Springfield Avenue, Summit NJ on February 11, 2012. The
session starts at 9am, and the license exam will start immediately after at
4pm. In the event of snow the cram session and exam will be held on the
following day at the same location and time.
Pre-registration is required for the cram session. Walk-in permitted for the
exam.

If you are still interested, please contact Vincent Lobosco. His email
address is vlobosco at comcast.net . His telephone number is 908-322-4512. You
can also contact me drumor at optonline.net.

Regards,

Drew Moore
732-801-4654


From jtmcauley at embarqmail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:25:39 2012
From: jtmcauley at embarqmail.com (John T McAuley)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:25:39 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Test Message
Message-ID: <36B8714F40374AD4B682FEBA24D00D13@JTMcAuley>

Test Message to see if my info is correct.

Thanks

John

AB2XH

 

John T McAuley

 


From gjurrens at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 20:16:37 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:37 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Dr. Joe Taylor speaks at WRC-12
Message-ID: <E5A55DA7-CD76-4064-BB75-55AD9C8CA9B6@gmail.com>

http://www.arrl.org/news/nobel-laureate-joe-taylor-k1jt-addresses-plenary-session-at-wrc-12-receives-itu-gold-medal

Link to YouTube video at end of article. 

73

GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity


From drumor at optonline.net  Mon Feb  6 21:17:55 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:17:55 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Status- NW2P Eric
Message-ID: <001d01cce53e$b402d7c0$1c088740$@optonline.net>

Eric is recovering OK with still some treatment issues balancing his
dialysis and BP. He's getting good care and his spirits are improving daily.
He has his cellphone with him, but he is still in the ICU. He is improving
every day. Possibly another status update will be provided when there is
significant reporting. Until then please continue to keep Eric in your
thoughts and prayers.

73
Drew


From drumor at optonline.net  Wed Feb  8 14:48:14 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:48:14 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] RVRC Meeting tonight
Message-ID: <00c801cce69a$98997e50$c9cc7af0$@optonline.net>

Tonight's meeting will be in Room "E" at the Somerset Fire Academy. Room E
is the one on the other end of the vending machine area.
We'll try to have a couple of signs posted.

73
Drew


From drumor at optonline.net  Thu Feb  9 12:42:14 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:42:14 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] FW: Climbing a 1700 foot tower.
In-Reply-To: <e4538b0019157.4f33f4b4@optonline.net>
References: <e4538b0019157.4f33f4b4@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <00a701cce752$28b55a10$7a200e30$@optonline.net>

 

 

From: asajm at optimum.net [mailto:asajm at optimum.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:31 AM
To: Moore, Drew
Subject: Climbing a 1700 foot tower.

 

Drew maybe the members might be interested.

=============================

HEY, I HEAR THERE ARE OPENINGS!!!!  

 

 The video opens with a cartoon airplane flying and intro. Wait for that to
finish, then hold onto your seat!  Click below.


 <http://www.liveleak.com/e/07b_1284580365>
http://www.liveleak.com/e/07b_1284580365  


From n2gj at amsat.org  Thu Feb  9 13:51:50 2012
From: n2gj at amsat.org (N2GJ_AMSAT)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:51:50 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] [Cross-Post] VE Session at Trenton Computer Festival
In-Reply-To: <4F340C41.8040808@mindspring.com>
References: <20120123.192937.28300.3@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>
	<COL101-W3002F18CCDBAE9C8A7DCCEA78B0@phx.gbl>
	<SNT142-W38805FA706FEFEDCB1DF7CCA8B0@phx.gbl>
	<4F2B3FD0.6050907@mindspring.com> <4F340C41.8040808@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <CAO2dfsqU-CQp_bOW0U5W4eSp2cvBRoZBc96dk4j8CBSP++ebvA@mail.gmail.com>

FYI - we need VEs!  Feel free to forward.

Thanks!  73,

GJ

Gerry Jurrens N2GJ
mailto:n2gj at amsat.org


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: RTMercuri <notable at mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Dsrc] VE Session at Trenton Computer Festival
To: notable at mindspring.com
Cc: alkatz <alkatz at tcnj.edu>, dsrc at lists.epiphanydesign.net, Al Katz <
a.katz at ieee.org>


PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY

We have had some good response to our request for Volunteer Examiners (VEs)
for the Trenton Computer Festival on March 10, and looks like it's a go.
Right now it seems we have 2 VEs and one pending VE (who should be
certified by March 10). TCF has scheduled 2 Ham Cram Sessions 11:20-12:25
and 1:30-2:25 and the walk-in exam at 3:40-4:35PM.

We could certainly use some additional VEs and teachers (don't need to be
VEs).

Please respond to Dennis McClary <denroymc at hotmail.com> if you are able to
volunteer.

We would appreciate it if you could forward this message to any VEs that
you may be aware of in the central Jersey area. (Also, if you know anyone
who would like to become a licensed Ham, please direct them to the TCF
website at www.tcf-nj.org for further information.)

Thank you and 73,
Rebecca KA3IAX.

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From w2sjw at comcast.net  Thu Feb  9 17:27:37 2012
From: w2sjw at comcast.net (Scott Wilson)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:27:37 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Updated status of Eric, NW2P
Message-ID: <000001cce77a$078e89b0$16ab9d10$@comcast.net>

Guys,

 

                Just heard from Susan & Paul that Eric is most likely going
to be moved in the next few hours to CareOne at the Highlands on Inman Ave.
in Edison for follow-up rehabilitation.

 

                More concrete info to come when we get it.

 

73

Scott, W2SJW


From gjurrens at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 06:46:40 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:46:40 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Happy birthday Demetrious!
Message-ID: <17063C6F-FC40-4D6F-A3A6-43E6CA5905F2@gmail.com>

Sorry I don't have your callsign on my phone.  

Happy birthday to you & your brother!  ARL FORTY SIX 73

GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity


From overthetop52 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 10 07:14:11 2012
From: overthetop52 at yahoo.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:11 +0000
Subject: [RVRC] Happy birthday Demetrious!
Message-ID: <315007.31616.qm@smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



----------
Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone

------Original Message------
From: Gerry Jurrens <gjurrens at gmail.com>
To: "Drew Moore" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Fri, Feb 10, 6:46 AM -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Happy birthday Demetrious!

Sorry I don't have your callsign on my phone.  

Happy birthday to you & your brother!  ARL FORTY SIX 73

GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity

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From drumor at optonline.net  Fri Feb 10 09:13:20 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:13:20 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] 2012 Cherryville Hamfest
Message-ID: <003301cce7fe$24ab0940$6e011bc0$@optonline.net>

 

ReplyTo: Bob Grear KA2OEE <ka2oee at yahoo.com> 

Subject: 2012 Cherryville Hamfest

 

QST QST QST de W2CRA

 

Wanted to get a note out to each of your clubs to let you know that the 2012
Annual Cherryville Repeater Association Hamfest will be held at North
Hunterdon Regional High School's cafeteria on Saturday, March 17, 2012.
Doors open to the public at 8:00 AM.  Our featured vendors will be KJI
Electronics and Souder Electronics as well as many more.  Plus, we will have
great CRA Hamfest food all day.

 

We will have VE Testing and a Skywarn traiining session at the Hamfest.
Tickets to the fleamarket are not required to take the tests or join the
Skywarn class, but we hope anyone who comes for those will want to have a
look at the great items for sale!  We also still have some tables available
if your club or any members would like to sell any items.

 

For further information, vendor registration forms, and a hamfest
announcement, please visit www.qsl.net\w2cra <http://www.qsl.net/w2cra> .

 

We look forward to seeing you all at the hamfest! 

 

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me via return mail,
or any of the hamfest contacts shown on our web site!

 

73,

 

Bob Grear, KA2OEE

Vice President

Cherryville Repeater Association


From gjurrens at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 13:22:03 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:22:03 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Kudos to Drew W2OU
Message-ID: <65546F18-1EF8-4307-B73C-5D48292AFA5E@gmail.com>

On page 103 of the March 2012 issue of QST it shows that Drew made the ARRL VEC Volunteer Examiner Honor Roll  having accomplished 277 sessions.

I've been a VE since the program began and have made MAYBE 27 sessions!!!

Congrats, Drew!!!  73,

GJ
Sent from my iPhone4
Pls 4give typos & brevity


From bob at cooper.edu  Fri Feb 10 14:05:30 2012
From: bob at cooper.edu (Prof Bob Hopkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:05:30 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Kudos to Drew W2OU
In-Reply-To: <65546F18-1EF8-4307-B73C-5D48292AFA5E@gmail.com>
References: <65546F18-1EF8-4307-B73C-5D48292AFA5E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F356A7A.8090508@cooper.edu>

Let me add my congratulations to Drew as well.  I can only imagine the 
great times had, and the great friends made by the folks who passed 
exams during those 277 sessions.  Drew, you bring credit to the hobby!
73,
bob
wb2udc

On 2/10/2012 1:22 PM, Gerry Jurrens wrote:
> On page 103 of the March 2012 issue of QST it shows that Drew made the ARRL VEC Volunteer Examiner Honor Roll  having accomplished 277 sessions.
>
> I've been a VE since the program began and have made MAYBE 27 sessions!!!
>
> Congrats, Drew!!!  73,
>
> GJ
> Sent from my iPhone4
> Pls 4give typos&  brevity
>
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From overthetop52 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 10 15:45:14 2012
From: overthetop52 at yahoo.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:45:14 +0000
Subject: [RVRC] Kudos to Drew W2OU
Message-ID: <230080.55729.qm@smtp109-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Drew
       Congrats to you!All the best&73...Pete..KD2ARB

----------
Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone

------Original Message------
From: Gerry Jurrens <gjurrens at gmail.com>
To: "Drew Moore" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Fri, Feb 10, 1:22 PM -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Kudos to Drew W2OU

On page 103 of the March 2012 issue of QST it shows that Drew made the ARRL VEC Volunteer Examiner Honor Roll  having accomplished 277 sessions.

I've been a VE since the program began and have made MAYBE 27 sessions!!!

Congrats, Drew!!!  73,

GJ
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From drumor at optonline.net  Sat Feb 11 20:42:32 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:42:32 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] K2KPA in Somerset Medical Center
Message-ID: <000501cce927$9688b600$c39a2200$@optonline.net>

Members,

Mary Ann and Theresa have informed me that John Erdek, K2KPA, has been
admitted to Somerset Medical Center and is being treated for possible
Pneumonia. Please keep John in your thoughts and prayers. 

73
Drew


From drumor at optonline.net  Wed Feb 15 08:18:36 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:18:36 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] : K2KPA Status Update
Message-ID: <004e01ccebe4$53c63030$fb529090$@optonline.net>

Great News

 

From: erdekfamily at verizon.net [mailto:erdekfamily at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:17 AM
To: drumor at optonline.net
Subject: Re: RE: K2KPA

 

Drew,

 

Good news!  K2KPA was released yesterday afternoon.  There will be some
follow-up treatment work, of course, but he's getting around well, looking
good and in pretty good spirits.

 

Mary Ann/KC2TQJ

Theresa/KC2RYE

 

 

On 02/11/12, drew Moore<drumor at optonline.net> wrote:

 

Mary Ann and Theresa,

 

I?m sorry to hear about John?s condition. I hope he gets well soon. If you
need anything please don?t hesitate to let me know. John has always been one
of the first to offer assistance when someone is of need in the club.

 

73

Drew

 

From: erdekfamily at verizon.net [mailto:erdekfamily at verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:08 PM
To: drumor at optonline.net
Subject: K2KPA

 

Drew,

 

K2KPA (John) is at Somerset Medical Center being treated for possible
pneumonia.

He is stable right now and in fairly good spirits (at least now that he's
had a meal.....

didn't eat much today which certainly didn't help things).....

 

Mary Ann/KC2TQJ

Theresa/KC2RYE


From k2gw at optonline.net  Tue Feb 14 09:10:46 2012
From: k2gw at optonline.net (Gary Wilson)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:10:46 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Digital Modes Demo at W2ZQ Club Shack - 10 AM Saturday
	February 18
In-Reply-To: <51bc3.2cf0a930.3c6bb098@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0LZD005MGZDNM8E0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

DVRA to host "Basics of Digital Modes" presentation.

Ewing Township, Mercer County - The Delaware Valley Radio Association will
be hosting a presentation titled "Basics of Digital Modes".  Lloyd Price,
N2KPC, an expert in the field and a professional instructor, will visit the
Club radio shack to introduce all interested to the digital arena as well as
demonstrate and answer questions.  The program begins at 10 am on Saturday,
February 18 at the DVRA radio shack on Bear Tavern Road near exit 2 of I-295
in West Trenton.  Talk-in is available on the Club 2m repeater at 146.67 MHz
pl 131.8.  For non-hams, more info is available on the Club web page at
www.W2ZQ.com <http://www.w2zq.com/>  or by email at K2TFR at ARRL.NET.

The Delaware Valley Radio Association is a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization
devoted to the promotion and preservation of the amateur radio hobby. The
club is comprised of amateur radio operators and their families.

 


From drumor at optonline.net  Thu Feb 16 17:52:00 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:52:00 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Health & Welfare update
Message-ID: <000f01ccecfd$9844d2b0$c8ce7810$@optonline.net>

I spoke to Eric, NW2P, and Theresa, KC2RYE, today and Eric and John are
doing good and are in great spirits. Eric is in a Berkeley Heights rehab,
and John is now home. It turns out that John had a case of Valentine's Day
Bronchitis, (Hi Hi).

Eric is in the middle of the Summit Hills and is currently not able to do
any RF communicating. Theresa thanks the club members for keeping her Dad in
their thoughts and prayers.

73
Drew 


From marvbrons at verizon.net  Thu Feb 16 23:26:47 2012
From: marvbrons at verizon.net (Marvin Bronstein)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:26:47 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] It's official, hams get 7KHz on MF,472~479KHz
Message-ID: <66CA6A85CC2A4BEBA7117B09B1228B03@marvbronsPC>

>From ARRL Newsletter;



+ WRC-12: Amateur Radio Gets Secondary MF Allocation at WRC-12



It's official -- delegates attending the 2012 World Radio communication Conference (WRC-12) have approved a new 7-kilohertz-wide secondary allocation between 472-479 kHz for the Amateur Radio Service. Agenda Item 1.23 had both its first and second readings in Plenary Session on Tuesday, February 14; to become part of the ITU's Radio Regulations, each Agenda Item must be read twice in Plenary Session. While the Final Acts will be signed on Friday, February 17 at the close of the Conference, the new allocation will not take effect until it is entered into the Radio Regulations on January 1, 2013. In any case, no amateur can use the band until his or her national regulations are revised to implement the allocation.

More information can be found at ARRL.org



Marv,  K2VHW

From marvbrons at verizon.net  Fri Feb 17 00:15:43 2012
From: marvbrons at verizon.net (Marvin Bronstein)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:15:43 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] March QST listings
Message-ID: <EC5C41AAE54E47D185EE61EDAED8E220@marvbronsPC>

Congratulations, Drew, on your achievement to "VEC volunteer Honor Roll"...........page 103 March QST!

On a more somber note, both Walter, KC2EVL and Paul, KB2NIF, were memorialized on the "SK" column also found on page 103, March issue.

Marvin,
K2VHW

From drumor at optonline.net  Fri Feb 17 17:34:08 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:34:08 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] RVRC Club Shirts and Badges
Message-ID: <003801ccedc4$43875fa0$ca961ee0$@optonline.net>

It has been a couple of years since we placed an order for RVRC Red Club
shirts and club badges. Within that time there have been many additional
members added to the club. If you are a new member and would like either or
both items, please contact me by email as soon as possible.

If it's a shirt you need please provide the name and call sign to appear on
the shirt and your shirt size.

73
Drew
W2ou


From drumor at optonline.net  Sat Feb 18 15:58:29 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:58:29 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater
In-Reply-To: <CAOgo0dfYr1nHhaagk0aavM8VNcTjBSqYuV77heHrwGiGDBZW9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOgo0dfrh-FejjF5Z_MqL8666Fp60tdBaR5-_F_nFC-h9-UBUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOgo0dfYr1nHhaagk0aavM8VNcTjBSqYuV77heHrwGiGDBZW9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101ccee80$116ccf70$34466e50$@optonline.net>

 

 

From: Tom Ray - W2TRR [mailto:tom.ray at unyrepco.org] 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:13 PM
To: w2qw at w2qw.org
Subject: Fwd: W2FLA Repeater

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tom Ray - W2TRR <tom.ray at unyrepco.org>
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Subject: W2FLA Repeater
To: w2qw at w2qw.com, kb2vrm at gmail.com, w2udt at arrl.net
Cc: sherman at w2fla.com, kq2h at yahoo.com, Captainlance
<captainlance at optonline.net>, secretary at unyrepco.org


UNYREPCO, Inc.

PO Box 858

Vails Gate, NY  12584

email: president at unyrepco.org

 

February 17, 2012

 

Mr. Michael Christiansen, President

Raritan Valley Radio Club

111 Preston Drive

Gillette, NJ 07933

 

cc: Mr. William Hudzik, Trustee, W2QW

 

Mr. Christiansen:

 

I am in receipt of your letter to Mr. Sherman Liefer, trustee of repeater
W2FLA dated February 8, 2012.

 

First and foremost, I believe you are quite mistaken if you think that
UNYREPCO no longer exists.  In fact, we have been actively coordinating
repeaters and in fact have several cross coordinations in the works at this
point in time.  While it is true that UNYREPCO has been somewhat inactive
over the past several years, an election was held in September where I was
elected President of the organization.  Since that time, we have been
actively working on clearing up the mess that has been UNYREPCO during this
time.

 

As such, you are hereby informed that the W2FLA repeater coordination is
alive and well.  UNYREPCO had never folded as an organization - it had been
somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation - and
the coordination held by W2FLA, coordination number 2006-R019 dated October
14, 2006, is indeed valid.  

 

I will refer back to 97.205(c) of the Commissions rules:

 

"(c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference to
another repeater, the two station licensees are equally and fully
responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of one
station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation of the
other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the noncoordinated
repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the interference."

 

Seeing as this repeater is, in fact, coordinated, the last line, "the
licensee of the noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to
resolve the interference." does not apply in this instance.

 

Mr. Liefer has had a major family problem and I have been corresponding with
Alex Muzyka.  He has not indicated that there have been any changes in the
repeater as coordinated through UNYREPCO.  That being said, Alex is copied
on this note, and I ask that he confirm this by clicking "REPLY ALL".
Please know that if the repeater is not operating as stated in the NOTICE OF
COORDINATION referenced above, then it becomes necessary to re-coordinate
the repeater (ie, if there have been changes in the geographic location,
ERP, or antenna height above ground, which would be considered major
changes).

 

I am, however, confused by your letter.  The next to last paragraph states, 

 

"The Raritan Valley Radio Club kindly requests you to investigate what has
changed in the

operation of the repeater to cause this interference on the input frequency
and to

notify us of what steps are being taken to mitigate the interference as
quickly as

possible."

 

The W2FLA repeater, as coordinated, is not transmitting on your input
frequency of 146.025 MHz.  Is this where you are experiencing the problem,
as you have stated above?  If it is, what is the logic behind stating that
W2FLA is causing a problem on your input frequency?  Additionally, you have
offered no geographic boundaries where this problem is occurring.  Since the
W2FLA repeater is not transmitting on your input frequency, I do not
understand why they would be in violation and need to "mitigate the
interference as quickly as possible."  If the problem is occurring on your
input frequency as you have stated, it would seem to me that it is being
caused either by an uncoordinated repeater that someone has put up (which
may also be causing problems with the W2FLA repeater), or by person(s)
utilizing your input frequency for some other purpose.  In neither of these
cases is W2FLA responsible for interference to your input frequency.

 

I respectfully request that you clarify your statements as to the
interference you are experiencing between the Raritan Valley repeater and
the W2FLA repeater and work with Mr. Muzyka and Mr. Liefer such that all
parties are on the same page here.  If, in fact, you are experiencing
interference on your INPUT frequency, that, to me, does not seem to be the
problem of the W2FLA repeater trustees, as it is not transmitting on your
input frequency.  

 

-- 
Tom Ray - W2TRR

President

UNYREPCO, Inc.

 





 

-- 
Tom Ray - W2TRR

President

UNYREPCO, Inc.

 


From drumor at optonline.net  Sun Feb 19 07:27:43 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:27:43 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater
Message-ID: <000701ccef01$e10a5be0$a31f13a0$@optonline.net>

Subject: Re: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater
To: RVRC

I was afraid that this would happen when Bill read the letter to the club,
notwithstanding the fact that Bill's letter was clear enough to get the ball
rolling for cooperation.

Can a complete copy of Bill's letter be .pdf ed to the members to juxtapose
against Tom Ray's response?

I have unfortunately had the distinction of experiencing this kind of
ignorance in business matters when the other side of an issue is falsely
confident of their position, "shooting from the hip" as they say, and they
usually remain unresolved unless you spend money, time, effort, and/or you
are able to circumvent the rules.

But, here are my preliminary thoughts and comments about this letter without
analyzing Bill's letter and studying the whole matter further at this time.

1st, Tom Ray W2TRR  is not the Trustee - owner/operator of the repeater and
does not bear legal responsibility for the interference therefrom.  It is my
understanding that the Trustee -owner of the repeater license and any
control operators involved with the interference are liable and responsible
for their actions to the FCC.  Keep in mind the fact that they are not
complaining about us interfering with them and thus if a formal complaint is
ultimately filed some day, it is not a zero sum game as in plaintiff and
defendant.

Tom Ray is already defending FLA, stating family issues etc, while echoing
his justifications as if he was the Trustee and/or Control operator, to Mr.
Muzyka whom I presume is a control operator, to sanction Ray's response to
Bill's letter.  This diversion is done while failing to meet the obligations
of the office which Ray holds with coy responses, "intellectualizing" ( - as
in a neurotic psychology term) and asking questions he already concluded
from Bill's letter, instead of answering properly by investigating further
and offering to lend assistance.  He is attempting to close the issue.

This is totally inappropriate, but the only response to Bill's letter that
is important must be by the Trustee - Owner of the license - not received
yet.

2nd, Without examining other sections of the FCC regulations it is implicit
within the 97.205(c) rule, that the operative precedence term is
"coordination" for which if defective, as I believe is the case and Bill's
letter implies, would place the burden on the later licensed repeater.  FLA
was coordinated in 2006 and our club has existed for many years before that
time with no major changes.


3rd, Ray is protesting too much and should be smart enough to know he is
weak here.  But, that is debatable from his email and he is adamant about
UNYREPCO being a coordinating entity with FLA's approval in 2006,   However,
he completely discredits his own statements with the following:

"While it is true that [UNYREPCO has been somewhat inactive over the past
several years,] an election was held in September where I was elected
President of the organization. Since that time, we have been actively
working on [clearing up the mess that has been UNYREPCO] during this time."
[SIC] and next he says...
[it had been
somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation]

By way of example - rhetorically - "In the forgoing 2 statements, is that
like the girl that is SOMEWHAT PREGNANT after having relations?"


Note: The UNYREPCO site just added the following, and in my view feigned,
statement to their website at unyrepco.org.

{{You may have heard or read on at least one neighboring council's website
that UNYREPCO has ceased functioning. THIS IS NOT TRUE! Your repeater
coordination is NOT in jeopardy, nor will it be. UNYREPCO is actively
coordinating repeaters and at present has several in cross coordination
(this being written 2/18/2012). If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact our President, Tom Ray, at president at unyrepco.org}}

And if you go to unyrepco.com you get the following statement:

{{It has come to our attention from several sources that The Upper New York
State Repeater Council (UNYREPCO) has apparently ceased to be operational in
the aforementioned areas. As repeater owners/operators, you should be keenly
aware that having an active, functional coordination body to represent your
interests is vital to the continued interference free operation of your
stations. Without a viable coordination body in place, you have no one to
represent your interests should there be interference issues, channel
grabbing, or FCC problems that require confirmation of coordination, etc.}}



I'm sorry but I have to say that this guy, Ray, is a jerk and suggest
waiting to see or perhaps prodding the Trustee "Sherman" to formally respond
because he may be preoccupied with "family matters," though that is not an
excuse, and may inappropriately expect others to take care of his
interference problem by making the matter go away with the kind of
assertions that Ray has made herein.  This email response smacks of cronyism
among the repeater clan up there and they are not going to be easy to get
cooperation without force of some kind.


Other areas for the Club to explore are perhaps unyrepco.org's own
regulations may be violated with respect to the FLA repeater.

The Coordination Policy page has the following:
{{Repeater-to-repeater distances for 10, 6, 2, and 1.25 meter co-frequency
coordinations are 120 miles. This becomes 160 miles for Very High Profile
Repeaters (VHPR's) with AMSL at or above 3000 feet. For coordinations at or
below 3000 feet AMSL, the Coordination Committee may consider the
terrain/ERP factors to achieve a good coordination at a closer distance.
Especially flat areas of the state, however, may require a longer distance.
(Areas of concern are the Mohawk River Valley due west to Rochester.}}

The repeater to repeater distance is probably about 100 miles on my map and
I don't know the elevation of the FLA repeater.

That's my preliminary take on this response.

To Bill, there is nothing more aggravating and insulting than taking time to
carefully compose a letter seeking an intelligent response and getting
nothing but a high noise level so far.

What Say RVRC Members?

73
Hank N2MU    ...-.-






----- Original Message -----
From: "drew Moore" <drumor at optonline.net>
To: "RVRC" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater


>
>
>
>
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR [mailto:tom.ray at unyrepco.org]
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:13 PM
> To: w2qw at w2qw.org
> Subject: Fwd: W2FLA Repeater
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR <tom.ray at unyrepco.org>
> Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
> Subject: W2FLA Repeater
> To: w2qw at w2qw.com, kb2vrm at gmail.com, w2udt at arrl.net
> Cc: sherman at w2fla.com, kq2h at yahoo.com, Captainlance 
> <captainlance at optonline.net>, secretary at unyrepco.org
>
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
> PO Box 858
>
> Vails Gate, NY  12584
>
> email: president at unyrepco.org
>
>
>
> February 17, 2012
>
>
>
> Mr. Michael Christiansen, President
>
> Raritan Valley Radio Club
>
> 111 Preston Drive
>
> Gillette, NJ 07933
>
>
>
> cc: Mr. William Hudzik, Trustee, W2QW
>
>
>
> Mr. Christiansen:
>
>
>
> I am in receipt of your letter to Mr. Sherman Liefer, trustee of 
> repeater W2FLA dated February 8, 2012.
>
>
>
> First and foremost, I believe you are quite mistaken if you think that 
> UNYREPCO no longer exists.  In fact, we have been actively 
> coordinating repeaters and in fact have several cross coordinations in 
> the works at
this
> point in time.  While it is true that UNYREPCO has been somewhat 
> inactive over the past several years, an election was held in 
> September where I was elected President of the organization.  Since 
> that time, we have been actively working on clearing up the mess that 
> has been UNYREPCO during
this
> time.
>
>
>
> As such, you are hereby informed that the W2FLA repeater coordination 
> is alive and well.  UNYREPCO had never folded as an organization - it 
> had
been
> somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation - 
> and the coordination held by W2FLA, coordination number 2006-R019 
> dated
October
> 14, 2006, is indeed valid.
>
>
>
> I will refer back to 97.205(c) of the Commissions rules:
>
>
>
> "(c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference 
> to another repeater, the two station licensees are equally and fully 
> responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of one 
> station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation of 
> the other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the 
> noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the
interference."
>
>
>
> Seeing as this repeater is, in fact, coordinated, the last line, "the 
> licensee of the noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to 
> resolve the interference." does not apply in this instance.
>
>
>
> Mr. Liefer has had a major family problem and I have been 
> corresponding
with
> Alex Muzyka.  He has not indicated that there have been any changes in 
> the repeater as coordinated through UNYREPCO.  That being said, Alex 
> is copied on this note, and I ask that he confirm this by clicking "REPLY
ALL".
> Please know that if the repeater is not operating as stated in the 
> NOTICE
OF
> COORDINATION referenced above, then it becomes necessary to 
> re-coordinate the repeater (ie, if there have been changes in the 
> geographic location, ERP, or antenna height above ground, which would 
> be considered major changes).
>
>
>
> I am, however, confused by your letter.  The next to last paragraph
states,
>
>
>
> "The Raritan Valley Radio Club kindly requests you to investigate what 
> has changed in the
>
> operation of the repeater to cause this interference on the input
frequency
> and to
>
> notify us of what steps are being taken to mitigate the interference 
> as quickly as
>
> possible."
>
>
>
> The W2FLA repeater, as coordinated, is not transmitting on your input 
> frequency of 146.025 MHz.  Is this where you are experiencing the 
> problem, as you have stated above?  If it is, what is the logic behind 
> stating that W2FLA is causing a problem on your input frequency?  
> Additionally, you
have
> offered no geographic boundaries where this problem is occurring.  
> Since
the
> W2FLA repeater is not transmitting on your input frequency, I do not 
> understand why they would be in violation and need to "mitigate the 
> interference as quickly as possible."  If the problem is occurring on 
> your input frequency as you have stated, it would seem to me that it 
> is being caused either by an uncoordinated repeater that someone has 
> put up (which may also be causing problems with the W2FLA repeater), 
> or by person(s) utilizing your input frequency for some other purpose.  
> In neither of
these
> cases is W2FLA responsible for interference to your input frequency.
>
>
>
> I respectfully request that you clarify your statements as to the 
> interference you are experiencing between the Raritan Valley repeater 
> and the W2FLA repeater and work with Mr. Muzyka and Mr. Liefer such 
> that all parties are on the same page here.  If, in fact, you are 
> experiencing interference on your INPUT frequency, that, to me, does 
> not seem to be the problem of the W2FLA repeater trustees, as it is 
> not transmitting on your input frequency.
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
>
>
>


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From overthetop52 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 19 10:47:36 2012
From: overthetop52 at yahoo.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:47:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater
In-Reply-To: <000701ccef01$e10a5be0$a31f13a0$@optonline.net>
References: <000701ccef01$e10a5be0$a31f13a0$@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1329666456.24743.YahooMailNeo@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

????? Greetings
??? I read this response&just couldn't believe what I'm reading here.Its like Mr Ray is not stepping up to the plate&taking responsibility for the action of the repeater causing said interference.He should read the FCC rules carefully regarding what a control operator is.I think the FCC refuses to get involved in something like this because,maybe according to them,this is a non issue?There is something wrong to infer that we should not complain about this?Maybe they should cut back on their power?I have no idea the location of this repeater.
???? As the saying goes,

"Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise."...73...Pete KD2ARB 

________________________________
 From: drew Moore <drumor at optonline.net>
To: RVRC <rvrc at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater
 
Subject: Re: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater
To: RVRC

I was afraid that this would happen when Bill read the letter to the club,
notwithstanding the fact that Bill's letter was clear enough to get the ball
rolling for cooperation.

Can a complete copy of Bill's letter be .pdf ed to the members to juxtapose
against Tom Ray's response?

I have unfortunately had the distinction of experiencing this kind of
ignorance in business matters when the other side of an issue is falsely
confident of their position, "shooting from the hip" as they say, and they
usually remain unresolved unless you spend money, time, effort, and/or you
are able to circumvent the rules.

But, here are my preliminary thoughts and comments about this letter without
analyzing Bill's letter and studying the whole matter further at this time.

1st, Tom Ray W2TRR? is not the Trustee - owner/operator of the repeater and
does not bear legal responsibility for the interference therefrom.? It is my
understanding that the Trustee -owner of the repeater license and any
control operators involved with the interference are liable and responsible
for their actions to the FCC.? Keep in mind the fact that they are not
complaining about us interfering with them and thus if a formal complaint is
ultimately filed some day, it is not a zero sum game as in plaintiff and
defendant.

Tom Ray is already defending FLA, stating family issues etc, while echoing
his justifications as if he was the Trustee and/or Control operator, to Mr.
Muzyka whom I presume is a control operator, to sanction Ray's response to
Bill's letter.? This diversion is done while failing to meet the obligations
of the office which Ray holds with coy responses, "intellectualizing" ( - as
in a neurotic psychology term) and asking questions he already concluded
from Bill's letter, instead of answering properly by investigating further
and offering to lend assistance.? He is attempting to close the issue.

This is totally inappropriate, but the only response to Bill's letter that
is important must be by the Trustee - Owner of the license - not received
yet.

2nd, Without examining other sections of the FCC regulations it is implicit
within the 97.205(c) rule, that the operative precedence term is
"coordination" for which if defective, as I believe is the case and Bill's
letter implies, would place the burden on the later licensed repeater.? FLA
was coordinated in 2006 and our club has existed for many years before that
time with no major changes.


3rd, Ray is protesting too much and should be smart enough to know he is
weak here.? But, that is debatable from his email and he is adamant about
UNYREPCO being a coordinating entity with FLA's approval in 2006,?  However,
he completely discredits his own statements with the following:

"While it is true that [UNYREPCO has been somewhat inactive over the past
several years,] an election was held in September where I was elected
President of the organization. Since that time, we have been actively
working on [clearing up the mess that has been UNYREPCO] during this time."
[SIC] and next he says...
[it had been
somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation]

By way of example - rhetorically - "In the forgoing 2 statements, is that
like the girl that is SOMEWHAT PREGNANT after having relations?"


Note: The UNYREPCO site just added the following, and in my view feigned,
statement to their website at unyrepco.org.

{{You may have heard or read on at least one neighboring council's website
that UNYREPCO has ceased functioning. THIS IS NOT TRUE! Your repeater
coordination is NOT in jeopardy, nor will it be. UNYREPCO is actively
coordinating repeaters and at present has several in cross coordination
(this being written 2/18/2012). If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact our President, Tom Ray, at president at unyrepco.org}}

And if you go to unyrepco.com you get the following statement:

{{It has come to our attention from several sources that The Upper New York
State Repeater Council (UNYREPCO) has apparently ceased to be operational in
the aforementioned areas. As repeater owners/operators, you should be keenly
aware that having an active, functional coordination body to represent your
interests is vital to the continued interference free operation of your
stations. Without a viable coordination body in place, you have no one to
represent your interests should there be interference issues, channel
grabbing, or FCC problems that require confirmation of coordination, etc.}}



I'm sorry but I have to say that this guy, Ray, is a jerk and suggest
waiting to see or perhaps prodding the Trustee "Sherman" to formally respond
because he may be preoccupied with "family matters," though that is not an
excuse, and may inappropriately expect others to take care of his
interference problem by making the matter go away with the kind of
assertions that Ray has made herein.? This email response smacks of cronyism
among the repeater clan up there and they are not going to be easy to get
cooperation without force of some kind.


Other areas for the Club to explore are perhaps unyrepco.org's own
regulations may be violated with respect to the FLA repeater.

The Coordination Policy page has the following:
{{Repeater-to-repeater distances for 10, 6, 2, and 1.25 meter co-frequency
coordinations are 120 miles. This becomes 160 miles for Very High Profile
Repeaters (VHPR's) with AMSL at or above 3000 feet. For coordinations at or
below 3000 feet AMSL, the Coordination Committee may consider the
terrain/ERP factors to achieve a good coordination at a closer distance.
Especially flat areas of the state, however, may require a longer distance.
(Areas of concern are the Mohawk River Valley due west to Rochester.}}

The repeater to repeater distance is probably about 100 miles on my map and
I don't know the elevation of the FLA repeater.

That's my preliminary take on this response.

To Bill, there is nothing more aggravating and insulting than taking time to
carefully compose a letter seeking an intelligent response and getting
nothing but a high noise level so far.

What Say RVRC Members?

73
Hank N2MU? ? ...-.-






----- Original Message -----
From: "drew Moore" <drumor at optonline.net>
To: "RVRC" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater


>
>
>
>
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR [mailto:tom.ray at unyrepco.org]
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:13 PM
> To: w2qw at w2qw.org
> Subject: Fwd: W2FLA Repeater
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR <tom.ray at unyrepco.org>
> Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
> Subject: W2FLA Repeater
> To: w2qw at w2qw.com, kb2vrm at gmail.com, w2udt at arrl.net
> Cc: sherman at w2fla.com, kq2h at yahoo.com, Captainlance 
> <captainlance at optonline.net>, secretary at unyrepco.org
>
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
> PO Box 858
>
> Vails Gate, NY? 12584
>
> email: president at unyrepco.org
>
>
>
> February 17, 2012
>
>
>
> Mr. Michael Christiansen, President
>
> Raritan Valley Radio Club
>
> 111 Preston Drive
>
> Gillette, NJ 07933
>
>
>
> cc: Mr. William Hudzik, Trustee, W2QW
>
>
>
> Mr. Christiansen:
>
>
>
> I am in receipt of your letter to Mr. Sherman Liefer, trustee of 
> repeater W2FLA dated February 8, 2012.
>
>
>
> First and foremost, I believe you are quite mistaken if you think that 
> UNYREPCO no longer exists.? In fact, we have been actively 
> coordinating repeaters and in fact have several cross coordinations in 
> the works at
this
> point in time.? While it is true that UNYREPCO has been somewhat 
> inactive over the past several years, an election was held in 
> September where I was elected President of the organization.? Since 
> that time, we have been actively working on clearing up the mess that 
> has been UNYREPCO during
this
> time.
>
>
>
> As such, you are hereby informed that the W2FLA repeater coordination 
> is alive and well.? UNYREPCO had never folded as an organization - it 
> had
been
> somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation - 
> and the coordination held by W2FLA, coordination number 2006-R019 
> dated
October
> 14, 2006, is indeed valid.
>
>
>
> I will refer back to 97.205(c) of the Commissions rules:
>
>
>
> "(c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference 
> to another repeater, the two station licensees are equally and fully 
> responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of one 
> station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation of 
> the other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the 
> noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the
interference."
>
>
>
> Seeing as this repeater is, in fact, coordinated, the last line, "the 
> licensee of the noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to 
> resolve the interference." does not apply in this instance.
>
>
>
> Mr. Liefer has had a major family problem and I have been 
> corresponding
with
> Alex Muzyka.? He has not indicated that there have been any changes in 
> the repeater as coordinated through UNYREPCO.? That being said, Alex 
> is copied on this note, and I ask that he confirm this by clicking "REPLY
ALL".
> Please know that if the repeater is not operating as stated in the 
> NOTICE
OF
> COORDINATION referenced above, then it becomes necessary to 
> re-coordinate the repeater (ie, if there have been changes in the 
> geographic location, ERP, or antenna height above ground, which would 
> be considered major changes).
>
>
>
> I am, however, confused by your letter.? The next to last paragraph
states,
>
>
>
> "The Raritan Valley Radio Club kindly requests you to investigate what 
> has changed in the
>
> operation of the repeater to cause this interference on the input
frequency
> and to
>
> notify us of what steps are being taken to mitigate the interference 
> as quickly as
>
> possible."
>
>
>
> The W2FLA repeater, as coordinated, is not transmitting on your input 
> frequency of 146.025 MHz.? Is this where you are experiencing the 
> problem, as you have stated above?? If it is, what is the logic behind 
> stating that W2FLA is causing a problem on your input frequency?? 
> Additionally, you
have
> offered no geographic boundaries where this problem is occurring.? 
> Since
the
> W2FLA repeater is not transmitting on your input frequency, I do not 
> understand why they would be in violation and need to "mitigate the 
> interference as quickly as possible."? If the problem is occurring on 
> your input frequency as you have stated, it would seem to me that it 
> is being caused either by an uncoordinated repeater that someone has 
> put up (which may also be causing problems with the W2FLA repeater), 
> or by person(s) utilizing your input frequency for some other purpose.? 
> In neither of
these
> cases is W2FLA responsible for interference to your input frequency.
>
>
>
> I respectfully request that you clarify your statements as to the 
> interference you are experiencing between the Raritan Valley repeater 
> and the W2FLA repeater and work with Mr. Muzyka and Mr. Liefer such 
> that all parties are on the same page here.? If, in fact, you are 
> experiencing interference on your INPUT frequency, that, to me, does 
> not seem to be the problem of the W2FLA repeater trustees, as it is 
> not transmitting on your input frequency.
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
>
>
>


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From drumor at optonline.net  Sun Feb 19 12:25:28 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:25:28 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] FW:  W2FLA Repeater
In-Reply-To: <8CEBD3DA0383822-18CC-F62@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com>
References: <000701ccef01$e10a5be0$a31f13a0$@optonline.net>
	<1329666456.24743.YahooMailNeo@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<8CEBD3DA0383822-18CC-F62@webmail-d159.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <007101ccef2b$79644b70$6c2ce250$@optonline.net>



From: njradioman at aol.com [mailto:njradioman at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:50 AM
To: drumor at optonline.net
Subject: Re: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater

I see at least two things in Mr. Ray's response.

First as he stated, below. Why isn't he contacting the repeater trustee to have him look into the matter

> "(c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference 
> to another repeater, the two station licensees are equally and fully 
> responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of
one
> station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation
of
> the other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the 
> noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the
interference."

Second, he states below. Did our letter state the input or that we can hear them on our output?

And as one last thing, didn't Alex (KQ2H) belong to the club at one time or was he just a friend of Al Sharbacks? Maybe we or possibly Al could contact him directly for a more friendly dialogue.



The W2FLA repeater, as coordinated, is not transmitting on your input
> frequency of 146.025 MHz. Is this where you are experiencing the 
> problem, as you have stated above? If it is, what is the logic behind 
> stating that W2FLA is causing a problem on your input frequency?


Marty, KB2JSG


From drumor at optonline.net  Sun Feb 19 12:29:02 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:29:02 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater
Message-ID: <007201ccef2b$f99f4a60$ecdddf20$@optonline.net>

 

 

From: Susan Frances Terregino [mailto:kb2sfh at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:46 AM
To: drew Moore
Subject: Re: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater

 


I was going to ask the club via email if it was my imagination that W2FLA
clearly has a condescending attitude toward RVRC when we are trying to
resolve this in a timely and professional matter but never mind, my question
is already answered. So, when all of our efforts on our own to get resolve
from them have been exhausted and I think we are beyond that, it's high time
to take the matter to the next level.

Susan


Some days you just have to turn up  <http://www.star991fm.com/>
http://www.star991fm.com/ and just drown out the rest of the world


 www.compassion.com

 

 

 

 

 

 





 


From overthetop52 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 19 12:33:28 2012
From: overthetop52 at yahoo.com (Pete Fierro)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:33:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [RVRC]  W2FLA Repeater
In-Reply-To: <1329666456.24743.YahooMailNeo@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <000701ccef01$e10a5be0$a31f13a0$@optonline.net>
	<1329666456.24743.YahooMailNeo@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1329672808.30743.YahooMailNeo@web46308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>






????? Greetings
??? I read this response&just couldn't believe what I'm reading here.Its like Mr Ray is not stepping up to the plate&taking responsibility for the action of the repeater causing said interference.He should read the FCC rules carefully regarding what a control operator is.I think the FCC refuses to get involved in something like this because,maybe according to them,this is a non issue?There is something wrong to infer that we should not complain about this?Maybe they should cut back on their power?I have no idea the location of this repeater.
???? As the saying goes,
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise."...73...Pete KD2ARB 

________________________________


Subject: Re: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater
To: RVRC

I was afraid that this would happen when Bill read the letter to the club,
notwithstanding the fact that Bill's letter was clear enough to get the ball
rolling for cooperation.

Can a complete copy of Bill's letter be .pdf ed to the members to juxtapose
against Tom Ray's response?

I have unfortunately had the distinction of experiencing this kind of
ignorance in business matters when the other side of an issue is falsely
confident of their position, "shooting from the hip" as they say, and they
usually remain unresolved unless you spend money, time, effort, and/or you
are able to circumvent the rules.

But, here are my preliminary thoughts and comments about this letter without
analyzing Bill's letter and studying the whole matter further at this time.

1st, Tom Ray W2TRR? is not the Trustee - owner/operator of the repeater and
does not bear
 legal responsibility for the interference therefrom.? It is my
understanding that the Trustee -owner of the repeater license and any
control operators involved with the interference are liable and responsible
for their actions to the FCC.? Keep in mind the fact that they are not
complaining about us interfering with them and thus if a formal complaint is
ultimately filed some day, it is not a zero sum game as in plaintiff and
defendant.

Tom Ray is already defending FLA, stating family issues etc, while echoing
his justifications as if he was the Trustee and/or Control operator, to Mr.
Muzyka whom I presume is a control operator, to sanction Ray's response to
Bill's letter.? This diversion is done while failing to meet the obligations
of the office which Ray holds with coy responses, "intellectualizing" ( - as
in a neurotic psychology term) and asking questions he already concluded
from Bill's
 letter, instead of answering properly by investigating further
and offering to lend assistance.? He is attempting to close the issue.

This is totally inappropriate, but the only response to Bill's letter that
is important must be by the Trustee - Owner of the license - not received
yet.

2nd, Without examining other sections of the FCC regulations it is implicit
within the 97.205(c) rule, that the operative precedence term is
"coordination" for which if defective, as I believe is the case and Bill's
letter implies, would place the burden on the later licensed repeater.? FLA
was coordinated in 2006 and our club has existed for many years before that
time with no major changes.


3rd, Ray is protesting too much and should be smart enough to know he is
weak here.? But, that is debatable from his email and he is adamant about
UNYREPCO being a coordinating entity with FLA's approval in
 2006,?  However,
he completely discredits his own statements with the following:

"While it is true that [UNYREPCO has been somewhat inactive over the past
several years,] an election was held in September where I was elected
President of the organization. Since that time, we have been actively
working on [clearing up the mess that has been UNYREPCO] during this time."
[SIC] and next he says...
[it had been
somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation]

By way of example - rhetorically - "In the forgoing 2 statements, is that
like the girl that is SOMEWHAT PREGNANT after having relations?"


Note: The UNYREPCO site just added the following, and in my view feigned,
statement to their website at unyrepco.org.

{{You may have heard or read on at least one neighboring council's website
that UNYREPCO has ceased functioning.
 THIS IS NOT TRUE! Your repeater
coordination is NOT in jeopardy, nor will it be. UNYREPCO is actively
coordinating repeaters and at present has several in cross coordination
(this being written 2/18/2012). If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact our President, Tom Ray, at president at unyrepco.org}}

And if you go to unyrepco.com you get the following statement:

{{It has come to our attention from several sources that The Upper New York
State Repeater Council (UNYREPCO) has apparently ceased to be operational in
the aforementioned areas. As repeater owners/operators, you should be keenly
aware that having an active, functional coordination body to represent your
interests is vital to the continued interference free operation of your
stations. Without a viable
 coordination body in place, you have no one to
represent your interests should there be interference issues, channel
grabbing, or FCC problems that require confirmation of coordination, etc.}}



I'm sorry but I have to say that this guy, Ray, is a jerk and suggest
waiting to see or perhaps prodding the Trustee "Sherman" to formally respond
because he may be preoccupied with "family matters," though that is not an
excuse, and may inappropriately expect others to take care of his
interference problem by making the matter go away with the kind of
assertions that Ray has made herein.? This email response smacks of cronyism
among the repeater clan up there and they are not going to be easy to get
cooperation without force of some kind.


Other areas for the Club to explore are perhaps unyrepco.org's own
regulations may be violated with respect to the FLA repeater.

The Coordination Policy page
 has the following:
{{Repeater-to-repeater distances for 10, 6, 2, and 1.25 meter co-frequency
coordinations are 120 miles. This becomes 160 miles for Very High Profile
Repeaters (VHPR's) with AMSL at or above 3000 feet. For coordinations at or
below 3000 feet AMSL, the Coordination Committee may consider the
terrain/ERP factors to achieve a good coordination at a closer distance.
Especially flat areas of the state, however, may require a longer distance.
(Areas of concern are the Mohawk River Valley due west to Rochester.}}

The repeater to repeater distance is probably about 100 miles on my map and
I don't know the elevation of the FLA repeater.

That's my preliminary take on this response.

To Bill, there is nothing more aggravating and insulting than taking time to
carefully compose a letter seeking an intelligent response and getting
nothing but a high noise level so far.

What Say RVRC
 Members?

73
Hank N2MU? ? ...-.-






----- Original Message -----
From: "drew Moore" <drumor at optonline.net>
To: "RVRC" <rvrc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: [RVRC] FW: W2FLA Repeater


>
>
>
>
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR [mailto:tom.ray at unyrepco.org]
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:13 PM
> To: w2qw at w2qw.org
> Subject: Fwd: W2FLA Repeater
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Ray - W2TRR <tom.ray at unyrepco.org>
> Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
> Subject: W2FLA Repeater
> To: w2qw at w2qw.com, kb2vrm at gmail.com, w2udt at arrl.net
> Cc: sherman at w2fla.com, kq2h at yahoo.com, Captainlance 
> <captainlance at optonline.net>, secretary at unyrepco.org
>
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
> PO Box 858
>
> Vails Gate, NY?
 12584
>
> email: president at unyrepco.org
>
>
>
> February 17, 2012
>
>
>
> Mr. Michael Christiansen, President
>
> Raritan Valley Radio Club
>
> 111 Preston Drive
>
> Gillette, NJ 07933
>
>
>
> cc: Mr. William Hudzik, Trustee, W2QW
>
>
>
> Mr. Christiansen:
>
>
>
> I am in receipt of your letter to Mr. Sherman Liefer, trustee of 
> repeater W2FLA dated February 8, 2012.
>
>
>
> First and foremost, I believe you are quite mistaken if you think that 
> UNYREPCO no longer exists.? In fact, we have been actively 
> coordinating repeaters and in fact have several cross coordinations in 
> the works at
this
> point in time.? While it is true that
 UNYREPCO has been somewhat 
> inactive over the past several years, an election was held in 
> September where I was elected President of the organization.? Since 
> that time, we have been actively working on clearing up the mess that 
> has been UNYREPCO during
this
> time.
>
>
>
> As such, you are hereby informed that the W2FLA repeater coordination 
> is alive and well.? UNYREPCO had never folded as an organization - it 
> had
been
> somewhat stagnant, but the organization has and remains in operation - 
> and the coordination held by W2FLA, coordination number 2006-R019 
> dated
October
> 14, 2006, is indeed valid.
>
>
>
> I will refer back to 97.205(c) of the Commissions rules:
>
>
>
> "(c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference 
> to another repeater, the two
 station licensees are equally and fully 
> responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of one 
> station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation of 
> the other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the 
> noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the
interference."
>
>
>
> Seeing as this repeater is, in fact, coordinated, the last line, "the 
> licensee of the noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to 
> resolve the interference." does not apply in this instance.
>
>
>
> Mr. Liefer has had a major family problem and I have been 
> corresponding
with
> Alex Muzyka.? He has not indicated that there have been any changes in 
> the repeater as coordinated through UNYREPCO.? That being said, Alex 
> is copied on this note, and I ask that he confirm this by
 clicking "REPLY
ALL".
> Please know that if the repeater is not operating as stated in the 
> NOTICE
OF
> COORDINATION referenced above, then it becomes necessary to 
> re-coordinate the repeater (ie, if there have been changes in the 
> geographic location, ERP, or antenna height above ground, which would 
> be considered major changes).
>
>
>
> I am, however, confused by your letter.? The next to last paragraph
states,
>
>
>
> "The Raritan Valley Radio Club kindly requests you to investigate what 
> has changed in the
>
> operation of the repeater to cause this interference on the input
frequency
> and to
>
> notify us of what steps are being taken to mitigate the interference 
> as quickly as
>
> possible."
>
>
>
> The W2FLA repeater, as coordinated, is not transmitting on
 your input 
> frequency of 146.025 MHz.? Is this where you are experiencing the 
> problem, as you have stated above?? If it is, what is the logic behind 
> stating that W2FLA is causing a problem on your input frequency?? 
> Additionally, you
have
> offered no geographic boundaries where this problem is occurring.? 
> Since
the
> W2FLA repeater is not transmitting on your input frequency, I do not 
> understand why they would be in violation and need to "mitigate the 
> interference as quickly as possible."? If the problem is occurring on 
> your input frequency as you have stated, it would seem to me that it 
> is being caused either by an uncoordinated repeater that someone has 
> put up (which may also be causing problems with the W2FLA repeater), 
> or by person(s) utilizing your input frequency for some other purpose.? 
> In
 neither of
these
> cases is W2FLA responsible for interference to your input frequency.
>
>
>
> I respectfully request that you clarify your statements as to the 
> interference you are experiencing between the Raritan Valley repeater 
> and the W2FLA repeater and work with Mr. Muzyka and Mr. Liefer such 
> that all parties are on the same page here.? If, in fact, you are 
> experiencing interference on your INPUT frequency, that, to me, does 
> not seem to be the problem of the W2FLA repeater trustees, as it is 
> not transmitting on your input frequency.
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Ray - W2TRR
>
> President
>
> UNYREPCO,
 Inc.
>
>
>
>


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From jtmcauley at embarqmail.com  Mon Feb 20 21:09:48 2012
From: jtmcauley at embarqmail.com (John T McAuley)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:09:48 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] W2FLA Repeater Problem
Message-ID: <000001ccf03d$e410a870$ac31f950$@com>

Hi, I'd like to offer the following for everyone's consideration: I think we
should do the following:

1)      Do what we can to prevent this issue from developing into an
urination contest, e.g., don't let Mr. Ray's e-mail response provoke us into
behaving in a like manner.

2)      Send out a corrected letter.

3)      Enlist the aid of our coordination group on a personal level.

4)      Enlist the aid of our section manager on a personal level.

Attempt to contact Sherman Leifer via phone - 79 Sunrise Dr, Woodbourne, NY
12788 

845-434-1436. I've dialed this number and a male answers the phone and I
apologized for having dialed the wrong number.

 

Based on the research I've done Woodbourne, NY is at 1188 ft AMSL and is 80
miles (direct line) from Greenbrook, NJ.

 

If I can be of any help, let me know

Regards

John

AB2XH

 

 

John T McAuley


From gjurrens at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 14:00:33 2012
From: gjurrens at gmail.com (Gerry Jurrens)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:00:33 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] Software Defined Radio
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>> Software Defined Radio
>>  
>> You are invited to learn more about Software Defined Radio from an industry expert at the next meeting of the Gloucester County Amateur Radio Club. This is another program designed to add to the continuing education and community involvement of Ham Radio enthusiasts in South Jersey.
>>  
>> Greg Jurrens, K5GJ, Flex Radio Systems? Vice President of Sales and Marketing will be our guest speaker at 7:30 PM on Wednesday, March 7th at the Pfeiffer Community Center in Williamstown, NJ. If you have been wondering about recent developments in SDR technology and its exciting applications in Amateur Radio, this is an excellent opportunity to learn more and ask questions.
>>  
>> Guests are welcome, and attendance is free. 
>> Hope to see you there!
>>  
>> For more information about our guest speaker, please visit www.flex-radio.com.
>> For other questions, please contact Cory Sickles, WA3UVV, SNJ Public Information Coordinator at 856-582-9146 or via email at wa3uvv at arrl.net.
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From drumor at optonline.net  Fri Feb 24 15:36:00 2012
From: drumor at optonline.net (drew Moore)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:36:00 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] No Code
Message-ID: <008601ccf333$eb6f3fc0$c24dbf40$@optonline.net>

Yesterday marked the 5 year anniversary of when No-code became effective in
FCC Amateur radio exams (1997). Since that time the ranks have grown to
700K+ and there is a renewed interest in CW.

73
Drew
W2OU


From asajm at optimum.net  Mon Feb 27 11:46:23 2012
From: asajm at optimum.net (asajm at optimum.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:46:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [RVRC] VE session
Message-ID: <e3cef7791c578.4f4bb35f@optonline.net>

The Cherryville Hamfest is the same day as our next VE session. Several VEs are known to jump ship. Please I'm puting out a request for VEs for the session.
 

From njradioman at aol.com  Tue Feb 28 07:59:53 2012
From: njradioman at aol.com (njradioman at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:59:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [RVRC] VE session
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References: <e3cef7791c578.4f4bb35f@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <8CEC42FFEB06A4E-2F1C-37D@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>

John, what day is it?


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Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 11:46 am
Subject: [RVRC] VE session


The Cherryville Hamfest is the same day as our next VE session. Several 
VEs are
known to jump ship. Please I'm puting out a request for VEs for the 
session.

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From radiomf at comcast.net  Tue Feb 28 08:28:38 2012
From: radiomf at comcast.net (Martin Friedman)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:28:38 -0500
Subject: [RVRC] VE session
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	<8CEC42FFEB06A4E-2F1C-37D@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
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The VE session is March 17.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:00 AM
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John, what day is it?


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Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 11:46 am
Subject: [RVRC] VE session


The Cherryville Hamfest is the same day as our next VE session. Several VEs
are known to jump ship. Please I'm puting out a request for VEs for the
session.

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