[RVRC] Internet services for W2QW

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I do not believe we need to discuss how others may violate or bend the terms of service rules.  If the Residential FIOS Terms of Service say No Servers then its not going to support what we need.  We go business class or we can take over the Cablevision account on our own.  Going to our own Cablevision account would require a business account anyway (Optimum Online Boost running only http on port 80) since standard service also restricts any use of servers, so I don't see the value in discussing ways to get past the rules.

> Optimum Online:
> Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;
> 
> Optimum Online Boost, Optimum Online Boost Plus, and Optimum Online Ultra:
> Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. Users who opt to run a webserver must do so on port 80 only. Webservers running on any other port will be deemed a violation of these terms.

Lets stop trying to out lawyer the lawyers and move on in a proper way according to the rules as they are.

Craig
AC2FE

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On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Paul Nannery <kc2vrj at gmail.com> wrote:

> its not our account its sues account her request to us staying on site has
> been we follow all rules and laws including the tos its in her name so we
> have to follow her wishes also they can termanate services for  for
> volations this means she would lose both her phone and tv as well as
> internet as the main email said this was to inform the  club not try and
> make a choice.
> On Dec 16, 2012 12:56 AM, "Alexander Sack" <pisymbol at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:20 PM, David DeGeorge <dld at degeorge.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> The below is from the URL (see last sentence)
>>> http://www.verizon.net/**policies/popups/tos_popup.asp<
>> http://www.verizon.net/policies/popups/tos_popup.asp>
>>> 
>>> Pretty clear since Asterisk is a server
>>> 
>>> *Restrictions on Use.*The Service is a consumer grade service and is not
>>>> designed for or intended to be used for any commercial purpose. You may
>> not
>>>> resell, re-provision or rent the Service, (either for a fee or without
>>>> charge) or allow third parties to use the Service via wired, wireless or
>>>> other means. For example, you may not provide Internet access to third
>>>> parties through a wired or wireless connection or use the Service to
>>>> facilitate public Internet access (such as through a Wi-Fi hotspot),
>> use it
>>>> for high volume purposes, or engage in similar activities that
>> constitute
>>>> such use (commercial or non-commercial). If you subscribe to a Broadband
>>>> Service, you may connect multiple computers/devices within a single
>> home to
>>>> your modem and/or router to access the Service, but only through a
>> single
>>>> Verizon-issued IP address. You also may not exceed the bandwidth usage
>>>> limitations that Verizon may establish from time to time for the
>> Service,
>>>> or use the Service to host any type of server. Violation of this section
>>>> may result in bandwidth restrictions on your Service or suspension or
>>>> termination of your Service.
>> Why not just stick with a residential account and if Verizon complains
>> (sigh), upgrade to a business account?
>> 
>> Fact is, literally thousands of folks run web servers on their home
>> internet connection.
>> 
>> Other than TOS, is there a technical reason to have a business account?
>> 
>> -aps
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