[R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
Barry
n4buq at knology.net
Thu Aug 15 21:44:17 EDT 2024
Any R-390 parts in those C4 images?
Barry - N4BUQ
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick England" <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> To: "Jacques Fortin" <jacques.f at videotron.ca>
> Cc: "R-390 Mailing List" <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 3:10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
> Ok that was just a test so don’t bother renaming any of those yet. I need
> to experiment and re-do the batch with auto-crop to remove some white
> space.
>
> Actually, rather than renaming the file directly, just look at them and
> email me a list with descriptive names like
> 07-terminal strip
> 08-rivet
> 09-large knob
> Etc.
> and I’ll append that to file names and use it for the index listing. If you
> like, include any additional info/notes that I can add to the index.
>
> Or maybe Gary’s DFL file will provide titles?
>
> Once I get all the preliminary files on line, we can split up the work of
> naming to whoever volunteers.
>
> Then I can easily rename them all, declare victory and move on.
>
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:18 PM Jacques Fortin <jacques.f at videotron.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick, I looked at some and the results are OK.
>>
>> I volunteer to upload and re-name those files one by one if needed, but I
>> do not want to do it in double with someone else or prevent anyone having
>> fun doing it.
>>
>> So we need to co-ordinate, I guess…
>>
>>
>>
>> *73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal*
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
>> *Envoyé :* 15 août 2024 13:21
>> *À :* gary.biasini at shaw.ca
>> *Cc :* Jacques Fortin <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; Tom M. <courir26 at yahoo.com>;
>> r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> *Objet :* Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>>
>>
>>
>> FWIW - I did a quick test of batch conversion to pdf - I set it to
>> downsize 50% and rotate.
>>
>> A random sampling looks OK. I'll look at adding titles and cropping later
>>
>> My OCR sometimes will extract the title and drawing number from te pdf but
>> I need to look at the index program to see how that will help.
>>
>> Just a test - Here are 100 files Tom classified as "small parts, knobs"
>>
>> https://www.navy-radio.com/rcvrs/r390a/drawings/test/
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick England K4NYW
>> www.navy-radio.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 7:40 AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have gotten all the files from Tom and will convert them all to pdf.
>> I’ll post on my web site with an index in html so anyone can access or
>> download them.
>>
>> If I am duplicating work someone has already done, please let me know.
>> Cheers
>>
>> Nick England K4NYW
>> www.navy-radio.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:41 PM <gary.biasini at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I should have noted that, once you have the Index.DLF file with the titles
>> added in, IndexR will allow you to search it for keywords in the title.
>> See
>> the attached screenshot for a search of the word "clamp" along with the
>> result.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gary.biasini at shaw.ca <gary.biasini at shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:24 PM
>> To: 'Jacques Fortin' <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; 'Tom M.'
>> <courir26 at yahoo.com>; 'r-390 at mailman.qth.net' <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: RE: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>>
>> It looks like the Index.DLF files with descriptions were stripped from the
>> message.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
>> Behalf Of gary.biasini at shaw.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:00 PM
>> To: 'Jacques Fortin' <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; 'Tom M.'
>> <courir26 at yahoo.com>; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>>
>> Jacques,
>>
>> You got them from me.
>>
>> If you want all of the drawings, first off, you need to get the CD - I was
>> offered the download by Carl Constanten some years ago. If needed, I
>> should
>> be able to provide a link to the CD on my Onedrive - I wonder if we
>> shouldn't just put the whole thing on R-390a.net with a searchable
>> database?
>> Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to do that but, I did have enough
>> skill to put on my Windows desktop.
>>
>> 1. As I think we have all discovered, the IndexR program on the CD
>> with
>> the diagrams only installs on Windows 95 but …. I found a more recent
>> version of the program from the Army that works on Windows Vista, 7 and 10
>> and, I assume, 11. You can download from here -
>> https://g6msd.redstone.army.mil/msd_ref/IndexRSetup_V60031.exe Windows 10
>> will tell you that it may harm the computer and you need to jump through a
>> few hoops to first download and then to run it to install.
>>
>> 2. Once you install the IndexR program and run it:
>>
>> a. click File – Open, Open a file of the selected type - Index file
>>
>> b. Navigate to where you have the documents from the CD filed and,
>> under folder 17310 or 22971, click on the Index.DLF file. So, that gets us
>> the index to all the drawings that particular directory and I figured out
>> how to get the files to open in the viewer program by double clicking.
>>
>> i. Under File | Configure, first click on the Directories Tab.
>> Under there, I put the following:
>>
>> Index File Path: C:\Users\garyb\OneDrive\R-390A\R-390A
>> Drawings [where I saved the drawings]
>> Drawing Header File Path:
>> C:\Users\garyb\OneDrive\R-390A\R-390A Drawings\17310 [You can also use
>> 22971
>> if you want to open the drawings in that folder]
>> I left the next 2 directories as they were populated by the
>> program.
>>
>> 3. Rather than using an updated version of ImageR to open the image
>> files (that’s the program on the CD), I decided to use XnView Classic or
>> XnView MP. If either of those programs are installed, then when you select
>> the correct file in the IndexR program and it will open. You can then
>> print
>> to PDF in that program. You must ensure that .c4 files are associated with
>> the viewer program that you decide to use.
>>
>> I have added descriptions to the Index.DLF files under 17310 and 22971 and
>> they are attached to be used in place of the index.DLF files on the CD.
>>
>> To "convert" to PDF, in the XnView program, select Print and under the
>> printer select your favourite PDF printer - I use Microsoft Print to PDF
>> and
>> then save the output as a PDF.
>>
>> I spent some time one night editing some of the PDFs in Adobe Acrobat to
>> make them fill more of a page when printing. As an example, see the 2
>> attached no. 86 under directory 13710/00/00, one original and one edited.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
>> Behalf Of Jacques Fortin
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 7:27 PM
>> To: 'Tom M.' <courir26 at yahoo.com>; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Thank you for your effort, Tom, but I already have those two since March
>> and
>> April 2019.
>> I do not remember from where they came, however,,, I also have the four
>> .pdf
>> attached which I believe to came from the same dataset.
>>
>> Please let us know if more of those "old format" files can be successfully
>> converted...
>>
>> 73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> De la
>> part de Tom M. via R-390 Envoyé : 14 août 2024 14:35 À :
>> r-390 at mailman.qth.net Objet : [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>>
>> I spent a good bit of time trying to housebreak the R-390A drawing set
>> today.They are in C4 format.The original indexer and viewer would not work
>> on my PC as the apps are 25 years old. I found newer apps online but still
>> could not get the indexer to work so I was flying blind in the documents
>> (over 900) but eventually found the knob drawings.
>> I then converted them to PDF. See below.
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