[R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here

Thu Aug 15 16:10:26 EDT 2024

Ok that was just a test so don’t bother renaming any of those yet. I need
to experiment and re-do the batch with auto-crop to remove some white
space.

Actually, rather than renaming the file directly, just look at them and
email me a list with descriptive names like
07-terminal strip
08-rivet
09-large knob
Etc.
and I’ll append that to file names and use it for the index listing. If you
like, include any additional info/notes that I can add to the index.

Or maybe Gary’s DFL file will provide titles?

Once I get all the preliminary files on line, we can split up the work of
naming to whoever volunteers.

Then I can easily rename them all, declare victory and move on.

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com

On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 3:18 PM Jacques Fortin <jacques.f at videotron.ca>
wrote:

> Hi Nick, I looked at some and the results are OK.
>
> I volunteer to upload and re-name those files one by one if needed, but I
> do not want to do it in double with someone else or prevent anyone having
> fun doing it.
>
> So we need to co-ordinate, I guess…
>
>
>
> *73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal*
>
>
>
> *De :* Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* 15 août 2024 13:21
> *À :* gary.biasini at shaw.ca
> *Cc :* Jacques Fortin <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; Tom M. <courir26 at yahoo.com>;
> r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> *Objet :* Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>
>
>
> FWIW - I did a quick test of batch conversion to pdf -  I set it to
> downsize 50% and rotate.
>
> A random sampling looks OK. I'll look at adding titles and cropping later
>
> My OCR sometimes will extract the title and drawing number from te pdf but
> I need to look at the index program to see how that will help.
>
> Just a test - Here are 100 files Tom classified as "small parts, knobs"
>
> https://www.navy-radio.com/rcvrs/r390a/drawings/test/
>
>
>
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 7:40 AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have gotten all the files from Tom and will convert them all to pdf.
> I’ll post on my web site with an index in html so anyone can access or
> download them.
>
> If I am duplicating work someone has already done, please let me know.
> Cheers
>
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:41 PM <gary.biasini at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> I should have noted that, once you have the Index.DLF file with the titles
> added in, IndexR will allow you to search it for keywords in the title.
> See
> the attached screenshot for a search of the word "clamp" along with the
> result.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gary.biasini at shaw.ca <gary.biasini at shaw.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: 'Jacques Fortin' <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; 'Tom M.'
> <courir26 at yahoo.com>; 'r-390 at mailman.qth.net' <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: RE: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>
> It looks like the Index.DLF files with descriptions were stripped from the
> message.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of gary.biasini at shaw.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:00 PM
> To: 'Jacques Fortin' <jacques.f at videotron.ca>; 'Tom M.'
> <courir26 at yahoo.com>; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>
> Jacques,
>
> You got them from me.
>
> If you want all of the drawings, first off, you need to get the CD - I was
> offered the download by Carl Constanten some years ago.  If needed, I
> should
> be able to provide a link to the CD on my Onedrive - I wonder if we
> shouldn't just put the whole thing on R-390a.net with a searchable
> database?
> Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to do that but, I did have enough
> skill to put on my Windows desktop.
>
> 1.      As I think we have all discovered, the IndexR program on the CD
> with
> the diagrams only installs on Windows 95 but …. I found a more recent
> version of the program from the Army that works on Windows Vista, 7 and 10
> and, I assume, 11. You can download from here -
> https://g6msd.redstone.army.mil/msd_ref/IndexRSetup_V60031.exe  Windows 10
> will tell you that it may harm the computer and you need to jump through a
> few hoops to first download and then to run it to install.
>
> 2.      Once you install the IndexR program and run it:
>
> a.      click File – Open, Open a file of the selected type -  Index file
>
> b.      Navigate to where you have the documents from the CD filed and,
> under folder 17310 or 22971, click on the Index.DLF file.  So, that gets us
> the index to all the drawings that particular directory and I figured out
> how to get the files to open in the viewer program by double clicking.
>
>         i.      Under File | Configure, first click on the Directories Tab.
> Under there, I put the following:
>
>                 Index File Path: C:\Users\garyb\OneDrive\R-390A\R-390A
> Drawings [where I saved the drawings]
>                 Drawing Header File Path:
> C:\Users\garyb\OneDrive\R-390A\R-390A Drawings\17310 [You can also use
> 22971
> if you want to open the drawings in that folder]
>                 I left the next 2 directories as they were populated by the
> program.
>
> 3.      Rather than using an updated version of ImageR to open the image
> files (that’s the program on the CD), I decided to use XnView Classic or
> XnView MP.  If either of those programs are installed, then when you select
> the correct file in the IndexR program and it will open.  You can then
> print
> to PDF in that program. You must ensure that .c4 files are associated with
> the viewer program that you decide to use.
>
> I have added descriptions to the Index.DLF files under 17310 and 22971 and
> they are attached to be used in place of the index.DLF files on the CD.
>
> To "convert" to PDF, in the XnView program, select Print and under the
> printer select your favourite PDF printer - I use Microsoft Print to PDF
> and
> then save the output as a PDF.
>
> I spent some time one night editing some of the PDFs in Adobe Acrobat to
> make them fill more of a page when printing.  As an example, see the 2
> attached no. 86 under directory 13710/00/00, one original and one edited.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Jacques Fortin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 7:27 PM
> To: 'Tom M.' <courir26 at yahoo.com>; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
> Importance: High
>
> Thank you for your effort, Tom, but I already have those two since March
> and
> April 2019.
> I do not remember from where they came, however,,, I also have the four
> .pdf
> attached which I believe to came from the same dataset.
>
> Please let us know if more of those "old format" files can be successfully
> converted...
>
> 73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> De la
> part de Tom M. via R-390 Envoyé : 14 août 2024 14:35 À :
> r-390 at mailman.qth.net Objet : [R-390] Knob Drawings PDF's here
>
> I spent a good bit of time trying to housebreak the R-390A drawing set
> today.They are in C4 format.The original indexer and viewer would not work
> on my PC as the apps are 25 years old.  I found newer apps online but still
> could not get the indexer to work so I was flying blind in the documents
> (over 900) but eventually found the knob drawings.
> I then converted them to PDF.  See below.
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