[R-390] OT discussions

Tue Nov 11 20:34:39 EST 2014

 I vote for the Blonde discussion! 
As a former Navy man, I would like to say that....... awww, just forget it.

ron
N4UE

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OT Battery Leakage (Charles Steinmetz)
   2. Re: OT Battery Leakage (Les Locklear)
   3. Re: OT Batteries (Tisha Hayes)
   4. Re: OT Battery Leakage (Transmaster)
   5. Re: OT Battery Leakage (Transmaster)
   6. Re: OT Battery Leakage (Cecil)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:32:32 -0500
From: Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz at yandex.com>
To: 390 list <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
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>Duracell and Duracell Procell are entirely different lines

Different lines, yes.  Different batteries, no.  The Procell 
batteries are just Duracell's second-best batteries ("Duracell Plus") 
with different graphics and packaged in bulk.  Duracell's best 
batteries ("Ultra Power") offer slightly greater energy 
density.  IMO, they both leak in time.

Best regards,

Charles

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:29:09 -0600
From: Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com>
To: "390 list" <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>,	"Charles Steinmetz"
	<csteinmetz at yandex.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
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Then, if they are Duracell's second-best batteries, why did the Procells 
last longer and never cause leakage problems in our shops multi meters, 
Maglite's or other devices we used? We spec'd Procell's to our suppliers 
after experiencing leakage and early failures with Duracell's.

I'm awaiting your prolonged, scientific filled answer, as I'm just a retired 
controls technician, and have always desired to be enlightened by a 
multi-paragraphed answer from someone less informed than me on the equipment 
I worked on................

Les Locklear

"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity".
Harlan Ellison
US science fiction author & screenwriter (1934 - )

-----Original Message----- 
From: Charles Steinmetz
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:32 PM
To: 390 list
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage

>Duracell and Duracell Procell are entirely different lines

Different lines, yes.  Different batteries, no.  The Procell
batteries are just Duracell's second-best batteries ("Duracell Plus")
with different graphics and packaged in bulk.  Duracell's best
batteries ("Ultra Power") offer slightly greater energy
density.  IMO, they both leak in time.

Best regards,

Charles

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:51:28 -0600
From: Tisha Hayes <tisha.hayes at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Batteries
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I too only buy Duracell. Quite often Walgreens will run a special on
batteries. I buy a pack of ten or twenty of AA's or AAA batteries. I have
some C's and D's too as there are a few pieces of test equipment that uses
those. Sooner or later we are going to have a hurricane that runs up into
Alabama and the power will be out for a few days. I will at least be able
to keep flashlights and a portable radio operating.

Another choice would be to go with Ni-MH rechargables and invest in a good
charger. Ni-MH batteries are not ones you throw away.

-- 
Ms. Tisha Hayes. AA4HA

*""It is not because things are difficult that we dare not venture. It is
because we dare not venture that they are difficult." -Seneca"*

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:50:56 -0700
From: Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com>
To: Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com>
Cc: 390 list <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
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ProCell's are NOT a second best line. If anything they are better then the
Duracell line as they have a higher charge density. They are designed for
professional use, that is any body who uses battery powered equipment to
make a living. They are designed for a heavy current draw. The main reason
why they are cheaper is they are sold in bulk packaging that is easy for a
person to get into to get fresh batteries, a bubble pack out in the sticks
with a petroleum survey team just doesn't hack it. Please read up on the
ProCell line at the Duracell website, and get your facts straight.

De W7ITC

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Then, if they are Duracell's second-best batteries, why did the Procells
> last longer and never cause leakage problems in our shops multi meters,
> Maglite's or other devices we used? We spec'd Procell's to our suppliers
> after experiencing leakage and early failures with Duracell's.
>
> I'm awaiting your prolonged, scientific filled answer, as I'm just a
> retired controls technician, and have always desired to be enlightened by a
> multi-paragraphed answer from someone less informed than me on the
> equipment I worked on................
>
> Les Locklear
>
> "The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity".
> Harlan Ellison
> US science fiction author & screenwriter (1934 - )
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Charles Steinmetz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:32 PM
> To: 390 list
> Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
>
>
>  Duracell and Duracell Procell are entirely different lines
>>
>
> Different lines, yes.  Different batteries, no.  The Procell
> batteries are just Duracell's second-best batteries ("Duracell Plus")
> with different graphics and packaged in bulk.  Duracell's best
> batteries ("Ultra Power") offer slightly greater energy
> density.  IMO, they both leak in time.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Charles
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:06:42 -0700
From: Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com>
To: Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com>
Cc: 390 list <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
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Here is a link:
http://www.medicbatteries.com/duracell-coppertop-alkaline-batteries

W7ITC

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com> wrote:

> ProCell's are NOT a second best line. If anything they are better then the
> Duracell line as they have a higher charge density. They are designed for
> professional use, that is any body who uses battery powered equipment to
> make a living. They are designed for a heavy current draw. The main reason
> why they are cheaper is they are sold in bulk packaging that is easy for a
> person to get into to get fresh batteries, a bubble pack out in the sticks
> with a petroleum survey team just doesn't hack it. Please read up on the
> ProCell line at the Duracell website, and get your facts straight.
>
> De W7ITC
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','leslocklear at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Then, if they are Duracell's second-best batteries, why did the Procells
>> last longer and never cause leakage problems in our shops multi meters,
>> Maglite's or other devices we used? We spec'd Procell's to our suppliers
>> after experiencing leakage and early failures with Duracell's.
>>
>> I'm awaiting your prolonged, scientific filled answer, as I'm just a
>> retired controls technician, and have always desired to be enlightened by a
>> multi-paragraphed answer from someone less informed than me on the
>> equipment I worked on................
>>
>> Les Locklear
>>
>> "The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity".
>> Harlan Ellison
>> US science fiction author & screenwriter (1934 - )
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Charles Steinmetz
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:32 PM
>> To: 390 list
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
>>
>>
>>  Duracell and Duracell Procell are entirely different lines
>>>
>>
>> Different lines, yes.  Different batteries, no.  The Procell
>> batteries are just Duracell's second-best batteries ("Duracell Plus")
>> with different graphics and packaged in bulk.  Duracell's best
>> batteries ("Ultra Power") offer slightly greater energy
>> density.  IMO, they both leak in time.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>

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Headed Irish Terrier House Ninjas, Cowboy, and Ladybug  10th degree black
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:07:57 -0600
From: Cecil <chacuff at cableone.net>
To: Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com>
Cc: 390 list <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
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Dang...all this over batteries...

Can't imagine how we might argue over whether 9mm is of any use for self defense 
and whether Blonds really do have more fun...bleached or natural...

Use the one you like and neutralize the leakage with vinegar...cause they all 
leak if you leave them unattended long enough...

Cecil

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> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ProCell's are NOT a second best line. If anything they are better then the
> Duracell line as they have a higher charge density. They are designed for
> professional use, that is any body who uses battery powered equipment to
> make a living. They are designed for a heavy current draw. The main reason
> why they are cheaper is they are sold in bulk packaging that is easy for a
> person to get into to get fresh batteries, a bubble pack out in the sticks
> with a petroleum survey team just doesn't hack it. Please read up on the
> ProCell line at the Duracell website, and get your facts straight.
> 
> De W7ITC
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Then, if they are Duracell's second-best batteries, why did the Procells
>> last longer and never cause leakage problems in our shops multi meters,
>> Maglite's or other devices we used? We spec'd Procell's to our suppliers
>> after experiencing leakage and early failures with Duracell's.
>> 
>> I'm awaiting your prolonged, scientific filled answer, as I'm just a
>> retired controls technician, and have always desired to be enlightened by a
>> multi-paragraphed answer from someone less informed than me on the
>> equipment I worked on................
>> 
>> Les Locklear
>> 
>> "The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity".
>> Harlan Ellison
>> US science fiction author & screenwriter (1934 - )
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Charles Steinmetz
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:32 PM
>> To: 390 list
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] OT Battery Leakage
>> 
>> 
>> Duracell and Duracell Procell are entirely different lines
>> 
>> Different lines, yes.  Different batteries, no.  The Procell
>> batteries are just Duracell's second-best batteries ("Duracell Plus")
>> with different graphics and packaged in bulk.  Duracell's best
>> batteries ("Ultra Power") offer slightly greater energy
>> density.  IMO, they both leak in time.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
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