[R-390] Lankford Filter Mod
Charles Steinmetz
csteinmetz at yandex.com
Sat Aug 30 18:45:44 EDT 2014
Perrier wrote:
>I would like to see that with your skill set you would design a plug
>in DBM first mixer replacement using the LM 1496 for the *A*. I
>think that it would be a quantum leap improvement.
I'm not sure a "plug-in" replacement is practical. The first
challenge with adding any SS circuitry to a 390/390A is getting a
"ground" reference into it and providing low-voltage DC power for
it. We have seen any number of designs that create LVDC supplies
from the resources already available inside the radio, but none of
these is a solution I'd adopt for various reasons (hum, excessive
loading of power transformer, etc.).
I would specify an additional power transformer to run the DBM,
making it not strictly a "plug-in" replacement. There is also the
question whether it could be packaged (complete with any necessary
heatsink) in the space available over and around the mixer tube
socket. The power and ground could go to a connector at the top of
the unit, so if it would physically fit the available space it could
be "plug-in plus."
There would still be things that could be done better if some further
mods to the radio were allowed.
Note that high dynamic range active mixers and post-mixer amplifiers
draw quite a bit of current and can be sensitive to noise on the
power supply, so the power supply needs to be beefy, well regulated,
and low-noise.
I would certainly not use an LM1496 as the mixer -- the best you
could do with that at the levels required would be at least 20dB
noisier than any good design. A passive diode DBM looks attractive,
but it would need a post-mixer amplifier, so we're back to the "not
really plug-in" issue. Adding a diode DBM and using the existing
mixer tube just for post-mixer gain is a possibility, but it's not a
"plug-in" solution.
>Please remember, the roofing filter mod was never stated as a cure
>for other R390A problems. It maybe that to achieve its best
>performance enhancement other mods need to be implemented.
My concern is that it doesn't cure ANY problem that simply using the
4kHz filter doesn't cure (or replacing the 8 or 16kHz filter with a
narrower filter).
>There are over 10 authors that I'm aware of whom over the last 20
>years who have made design improvements. Some major, some minor.
Well, changes, yes. Not all "improvements," by any means (judging by
the random selection I've seen, not very many are net
improvements). Anyone contemplating making such changes should do
their own careful design evaluation to see if the mod being
considered is likely to solve any real problem(s) without creating
any worse problems. But not everyone who plays with 390s has the
engineering skills to do this, so when I see a mod that, based on my
design evaluation, (i) would likely solve no real problem, (ii) would
likely cause worse problems than any real issue it may help, or (iii)
is not the best way to attack the problem, I think it is appropriate
to speak up.
>I have already released a two part schematic that incorporates most
>of those upgrades for those who want to join the dark side of
>excellent performance.
Again, anyone contemplating making changes should do their own
careful design evaluation to see if the mod being considered is
likely to solve any real problem(s) without creating any worse
problems. If they have questions about the wisdom of any mod that
they cannot determine for themselves, they should feel free to ask on
the list. Making a change and observing how it works "on the air" is
a useful process, but it takes thorough and systematic testing to see
what other aspects of performance may have been compromised or
degraded by the change -- things one could easily miss just by using
the radio on the air in average conditions.
Best regards,
Charles
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