[R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 114, Issue 35
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Mon Oct 28 15:01:14 EDT 2013
As Tisha said, keep this stuff off of your skin. It goes into your pores and has 'staying power'... Not only that, it is very dense, so if you buy a pound (like I did), it will be in a really small package. It's messy, to say the least.
I use both WS2 (TD), and HBN on my firearms and reloading equipment. Recently, I have switched to HBN as it is 'almost' as good a lubricant as the WS2. I impact plate ALL of my jacketed bullets with the HBN and it make cleaning the varmint rifles super easy. I have yet to see any copper fouling in the bores of my rifles.
If it's good enuf for David Tubb (National Champ), it's gud enuf fer me....
ron
N4UE
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Today's Topics:
1. Slippery stuff, tips on applying (Tisha Hayes)
2. Collins R-388 FS (Ben Loper)
3. Re: Slippery stuff (Roger Ruszkowski)
4. Re: Slippery stuff (chacuff at cableone.net)
5. Slippery TD (rbethman)
6. Re: Slippery TD (Bob Camp)
7. The Slippery TD (rbethman)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:07:06 -0500
From: Tisha Hayes <tisha.hayes at gmail.com>
To: R390A <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [R-390] Slippery stuff, tips on applying
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Sorry I cannot write too much about this, I am driving back from Fort Worth
today;
The Tungsten powder is a nano-material, the individual particles are about
the size of red blood cells (microscopic). These types of materials work
because they create a ultra-thin layer between the two metals so they are
not directly in contact but end up with a small layer of tungsten molecules
between the pieces.
Alcohol is merely a way to carry this powder to the metal. You get a little
bit of solvent action to help the tungsten fill into the voids on the metal
and the alcohol helps clean off any goo that was already there.
You are applying a very small amount of material on the wear surfaces. When
I apply the stuff I wet a cotton swab (Q-tip) with alcohol and then dip it
into the powder (just the tip) and apply it like you would with a thin
liquid like WD-40. The wetted powder will quickly dry and turn a dull grey
in color. Assemble things and you should be good to go.
We do not need to give things a bath or soak them, in fact if you gooped
this stuff there it would probably *increase* friction as now you would be
trying to shear through the caked on material.
I had made a mistake when applying a bit to the slide of a semi-automatic
pistol and had the cotton swab too wet with alcohol. It had gotten on the
outside of the slide and I wiped it off. It created this swath of
iridescent black-grey-green-blue spot of tungsten on the outside of the
gun. I tried to wipe it off and it spread everywhere. I ended up taking an
old gym sock and turned it inside out and rubbed down the entire pistol
until it was a uniform color. The finish is unique looking, super thin and
very resilient. The steel on the slide and receiver is very slick feeling
(tough to explain, if you have the powder and get any on your skin you will
know exactly what I am saying).
This is a nano-material, as such it can get into everything. You do not
want to be breathing the powder (don't blow into a pile of it) and try to
keep it off of your skin as it is small enough to get right into your pores
and your skin would be looking grey for a week.
Do not throw away the used cotton swab. There is still plenty on there so
you can reuse it multiple times.
--
Ms. Tisha Hayes/ AA4HA
*Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into
despotisms.*
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:38:45 -0500
From: Ben Loper <brloper at gmail.com>
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<r-390 at mailman.qth.net>, "Boatanchors at puck.nether.net"
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Subject: [R-390] Collins R-388 FS
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Collins R-388 $350.00 Chassis marked July 1952, repro data plate. I just
aligned and checked all of the tubes with a TV-7D. Good condition with top
and bottom covers. Ben KJ4CC
--
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They also can be overcome
When we use the power provided free to everyone
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:48:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roger Ruszkowski <flowertime01 at wmconnect.com>
To: R-390 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [R-390] Slippery stuff
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Bob,
Just buy a pint of the highest proof stuff you can find.
The little bit of flavor and 20 % water will not hurt any thing.
Roger.
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:18:14 +0000
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Roger Ruszkowski <flowertime01 at wmconnect.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Slippery stuff
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Yup...a pint of Everclear...that will get the job done..
So much talk about this stuff..I?m wanting to pick up an envelope of the stuff
for my firearms if nothing else...
Cecil Acuff
Gulfport MS
K5DL
From: Roger Ruszkowski
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Bob,
Just buy a pint of the highest proof stuff you can find.
The little bit of flavor and 20 % water will not hurt any thing.
Roger.
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:40:01 -0400
From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
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Subject: [R-390] Slippery TD
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List,
1) Everclear isn't to be had here without a License and a specific
Permit issued by the state Alcohol Beverage Control Board.
I've had numerous offers from folks out of state to obtain and send to
me. DON'T! I've responded to most off-line. This insane state WILL
take action.
2) I did obtain 91% Isopropyl. It will essentially do the job.
(Although I will only go that route if it becomes a necessity.)
Since I'm not in a "big" hurry, the receiver is still torn apart and
with the entire Den/Shack not complete in its renovation, (XYL's
agenda), I'm not going to push it.
I have a Wedding to attend next month. I can either pick up the
Everclear enroute or at the destination. Then all legal issues are
strictly on me.
One of the first applications will, as Cecil is interested in, will be
my concealed carry piece.
Patience is plentiful for me.
I appreciate all the ideas and offers. I'll get there. I'll just be
patient and wait.
Bob - N0DGN
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:01:49 -0400
From: Bob Camp <ham at kb8tq.com>
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Subject: Re: [R-390] Slippery TD
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Hi
99.9xxx% "electronic grade" Isopropyl is a fairly common item. You can get it in
fairly small containers. It's not (as far as I know) likely to run you into
trouble with the ABC or the hazmat guys. If you have it ignite it could create
an issue with the fire marshal?..
Bob
On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:40 AM, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net> wrote:
> List,
>
> 1) Everclear isn't to be had here without a License and a specific Permit
issued by the state Alcohol Beverage Control Board.
>
> I've had numerous offers from folks out of state to obtain and send to me.
DON'T! I've responded to most off-line. This insane state WILL take action.
>
> 2) I did obtain 91% Isopropyl. It will essentially do the job. (Although I
will only go that route if it becomes a necessity.)
>
> Since I'm not in a "big" hurry, the receiver is still torn apart and with the
entire Den/Shack not complete in its renovation, (XYL's agenda), I'm not going
to push it.
>
> I have a Wedding to attend next month. I can either pick up the Everclear
enroute or at the destination. Then all legal issues are strictly on me.
>
> One of the first applications will, as Cecil is interested in, will be my
concealed carry piece.
>
> Patience is plentiful for me.
>
> I appreciate all the ideas and offers. I'll get there. I'll just be patient
and wait.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:38:58 -0400
From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
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Subject: [R-390] The Slippery TD
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List,
I have spent an untold number of hours researching this on line. I
didn't look just for Ethanol!
I will say that I have never seen anyplace like this. It was NOT this
way when I retired here.
The latest suggestion to look for electronics grade Isopropyl, [sic] is
something I have already run down in this research.
Somewhere during the period since I retired here from Uncle Sam,
Everything has REALLY changed.
The Electronics Grade Isopropyl Alcohol has become another one of those
that requires a license and a specific permit. Only it is from a
different division of this State Government.
I can walk into a State ABC store and pick up a bottle of 151 proof
Rum. I can also walk into a Firearms Emporium and pick up a 7lb can of
gunpowder and no one bats an eye.
Things have become very convoluted here for reasons that I can not find
out or get questions replied to.
Everyone just relax. As I stated in my earlier post, I will deal with it.
Roger and Charles both pointed out that simply getting the highest
percentage of alcohol and using it will work. I've prepared for that
*IF* that is the only available option.
I've already been planning how to get what "used" to be at hand in the
laboratory environment that I was once in.
I'm not hyper or anything even remotely close to it. I'm just rolling
with what is, and will resolve it.
Bob - N0DGN
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